Prospect Info: Jets Prospects

[Maukkis]

I agree but that's really going to test my patience.
Jets have spots to fill and I'm really wanting to see some progress in introducing prospects into the lineup.

If veteran UFAs get 3+ year contracts to fill 2C and 1RD openings then I'll be frustrated.
If either Salomonsson or Lambert are getting regular minutes into November then I'm happy.

I'm not suggesting the young guns should fill those roles immediately but I do think they should be developed towards those roles.

Chibrikov, Lucius and Lambert have two years of waiver exemption left each. Ideally, one of them gets brought in this year, and the rest get their shots in 25-26 at the latest. That should be a realistic timeline, although the order in which you promote them could vary.

Then again, that's only the ideal scenario. What we've done with our prospects recently is about the opposite of ideal, as it relates to bringing them up before they become waiver eligible.

(Salo needs waivers starting in 2027, Barlow in 2028, and I don't think Rutger touches the AHL, so that's a bit of a moot point)

 

[bumblebeeman]

I'm just checking out Moose stats, it seems like only Connor and Perfetti were close to ppg AHL players, and both got directly into the top 6. Other guys who produced more closely to Lambert or Chibrikov are guys like Roslovic, Appleton, Petan, and they all had multiple years on the Moose then had to start out in the bottom 6. That makes me think maybe more AHL time will be given to these guys, with some callups maybe.

That said I don't watch the Moose, so maybe just the team is worse now or whatever, points aren't everything.

 

[Flair Hay]

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I'm just checking out Moose stats, it seems like only Connor and Perfetti were close to ppg AHL players, and both got directly into the top 6. Other guys who produced more closely to Lambert or Chibrikov are guys like Roslovic, Appleton, Petan, and they all had multiple years on the Moose then had to start out in the bottom 6. That makes me think maybe more AHL time will be given to these guys, with some callups maybe.

That said I don't watch the Moose, so maybe just the team is worse now or whatever, points aren't everything.

A lot of similarities between Roslovic and Lambert as prospects. Hopefully Brad keeps improving and is able to get to the level of a top line center or wing one day.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Chibrikov, Lucius and Lambert have two years of waiver exemption left each. Ideally, one of them gets brought in this year, and the rest get their shots in 25-26 at the latest. That should be a realistic timeline, although the order in which you promote them could vary.

Then again, that's only the ideal scenario. What we've done with our prospects recently is about the opposite of ideal, as it relates to bringing them up before they become waiver eligible.

(Salo needs waivers starting in 2027, Barlow in 2028, and I don't think Rutger touches the AHL, so that's a bit of a moot point)

Agree with you, but McGroarty, Chibrikov and Lucius would be a lot to make roster spots for in 25-26. Lambert and Chibrikov should probably see a bunch of games this year.

 

[ps241]

Agree with you, but McGroarty, Chibrikov and Lucius would be a lot to make roster spots for in 25-26. Lambert and Chibrikov should probably see a bunch of games this year.

I assume Lucius is pretty much done now. He played only 12 games in his draft year, then played 24 games at the U of M before being injured for the season. Played 12 games for the Moose and 6 for the WinterHawks in a totally lost injury plauqed season, followed that up with only 17 games last year on the Moose before losing the season to injuries.

In summary over the past four seasons including his draft year he has played the equivalent of one full AHL season with playoffs. Seems like a great kid but he has missed most of 4 seasons of development, all 4 ending in injury, so I can’t see this come together. His body just isn’t build for the rigors of hockey.

I imagine McGroarty will go strait to the NHL team in 25-26 due to size, talent, age (draft +4), and leverage.

Chiby we will see?

 

[Gil Fisher]

@ps241

I think Chibby has a better shot to stick out of the gate than Lambert, just because he's more suited to a bottom role.

Yeah, and you may be right with Lucius. I wouldn't write him off, but his waiver clock will present some difficulties.

 

[Heldig]

Very disappointed we are not going to see McGroarty next season.

 

[cneely]

I'm just checking out Moose stats, it seems like only Connor and Perfetti were close to ppg AHL players, and both got directly into the top 6. Other guys who produced more closely to Lambert or Chibrikov are guys like Roslovic, Appleton, Petan, and they all had multiple years on the Moose then had to start out in the bottom 6. That makes me think maybe more AHL time will be given to these guys, with some callups maybe.

That said I don't watch the Moose, so maybe just the team is worse now or whatever, points aren't everything.

At 20 years old, Connor had 44 points in 52 games (0.85 ppg) while Lambert had 55 in 64 (0.86).

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

If some AHL time is what could be the difference between:
1) solid 2nd pair D like Salo is likely to be...,or
2) true top pair RD Salo could be

Then that is probably where he should be playing.

Expecting young ad to play mistake free on the 3rd pair (like most coaches tend to prefer) on a team looking to win now is a dangerous game to play

Playing 1st pair in the AHL seems like a logical way to prepare to play 1st pair in the NHL.
But if he has the maturity to play in the NHL this year, I say go for it. Let him learn by making some mistakes though. If he gets punished for every mistake he will learn to be tentative.

 

[Teppo Numenor]

Playing 1st pair in the AHL seems like a logical way to prepare to play 1st pair in the NHL.
But if he has the maturity to play in the NHL this year, I say go for it. Let him learn by making some mistakes though. If he gets punished for every mistake he will learn to be tentative.

I agree, if he is that good let him play now, it wont make a difference long term and he may get there faster

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Chibrikov, Lucius and Lambert have two years of waiver exemption left each. Ideally, one of them gets brought in this year, and the rest get their shots in 25-26 at the latest. That should be a realistic timeline, although the order in which you promote them could vary.

Then again, that's only the ideal scenario. What we've done with our prospects recently is about the opposite of ideal, as it relates to bringing them up before they become waiver eligible.

(Salo needs waivers starting in 2027, Barlow in 2028, and I don't think Rutger touches the AHL, so that's a bit of a moot point)

I wish Jets had tried harder to sign McG. I wouldn't be in favour of promising a spot to a prospect. But they could have said that there will be a spot available and you will be given the opportunity to win it.

Of course they may have done that, but it didn't sound that way at the time.

Still assuming Ehlers is gone, we probably need one of Chibrikov or Lambert to make the jump this year. Chib is a little older so may be a little closer to NHL ready. Both will add speed to a team that will need it.

 

[Gil Fisher]

At 20 years old, Connor had 44 points in 52 games (0.85 ppg) while Lambert had 55 in 64 (0.86).

this forum needs a spinny wanky emoji

 

[MardyBum]

I assume Lucius is pretty much done now. He played only 12 games in his draft year, then played 24 games at the U of M before being injured for the season. Played 12 games for the Moose and 6 for the WinterHawks in a totally lost injury plauqed season, followed that up with only 17 games last year on the Moose before losing the season to injuries.

In summary over the past four seasons including his draft year he has played the equivalent of one full AHL season with playoffs. Seems like a great kid but he has missed most of 4 seasons of development, all 4 ending in injury, so I can’t see this come together. His body just isn’t build for the rigors of hockey.

I imagine McGroarty will go strait to the NHL team in 25-26 due to size, talent, age (draft +4), and leverage.

Chiby we will see?

Tbf he was very good for the Moose before his injury, it wasn't like he was behind the ball. At this point though yeah, it's pretty sad.

At 20 years old, Connor had 44 points in 52 games (0.85 ppg) while Lambert had 55 in 64 (0.86).

And let us all remember Kyle Connor needed to go back to the AHL for those 4 games to truly be ready for an NHL season

 

[Flair Hay]

Playing 1st pair in the AHL seems like a logical way to prepare to play 1st pair in the NHL.
But if he has the maturity to play in the NHL this year, I say go for it. Let him learn by making some mistakes though. If he gets punished for every mistake he will learn to be tentative.

Yeah that's kind of what I'm getting at. GMs plan to let players make mistakes. Coaches coach to win and play players less when they lose confidence.

He won't get NHL PP time, won't be a go to PK guy.

Things to consider.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

Still assuming Ehlers is gone, we probably need one of Chibrikov or Lambert to make the jump this year. Chib is a little older so may be a little closer to NHL ready. Both will add speed to a team that will need it.

Wonder which one has a better Uber rating?

Team needs to find ways to incorporate more rookies into the lineup. Draft and develop strategy really requires playing more rookies.

 

[ps241]

@ps241

I think Chibby has a better shot to stick out of the gate than Lambert, just because he's more suited to a bottom role.

Yeah, and you may be right with Lucius. I wouldn't write him off, but his waiver clock will present some difficulties.

I have watched next to zero Moose hockey so I will take your word on this.

 

[CorgisPer60]

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[voyageur]

I wish Jets had tried harder to sign McG. I wouldn't be in favour of promising a spot to a prospect. But they could have said that there will be a spot available and you will be given the opportunity to win it.

Of course they may have done that, but it didn't sound that way at the time.

Still assuming Ehlers is gone, we probably need one of Chibrikov or Lambert to make the jump this year. Chib is a little older so may be a little closer to NHL ready. Both will add speed to a team that will need it.

Nobody is talking about Parker Ford but he was right behind Chibrikov in Moose scoring (more goals, less PP time). He is one of those Heisinger, whoever our scouts are in the Eastern NCAA, finds. Turns 24 before next training camp. I think he didn't get into the final game, even though called up, because his family couldn't make it, but one of those buzzsaw, low centre of gravity players, goes to scoring areas...He, Reichel, Viel were the Moose's best line when the team finally started turning their last place fortunes around. Had a good camp last season too. I'd say he is closer to an every game NHLer than Chibrikov after last season.

 

[Whileee]

Nobody is talking about Parker Ford but he was right behind Chibrikov in Moose scoring (more goals, less PP time). He is one of those Heisinger, whoever our scouts are in the Eastern NCAA, finds. Turns 24 before next training camp. I think he didn't get into the final game, even though called up, because his family couldn't make it, but one of those buzzsaw, low centre of gravity players, goes to scoring areas...He, Reichel, Viel were the Moose's best line when the team finally started turning their last place fortunes around. Had a good camp last season too. I'd say he is closer to an every game NHLer than Chibrikov after last season.

Good point. I like Ford, but as you note, he's 24 and probably doesn't feature as more than a bottom-6 energy forward at the NHL level. Maybe he takes a jump, but that would be unusual. Generally, I see a lot of NHL teams using bigger forwards in their bottom-6. There are now a lot more big and fast energy players available.

I do wonder about Kupari's trajectory. He has top-end speed and he can play an aggressive fore-checking game. Has some puck skills, but doesn't seem to have high-end hockey sense. But I could see him translate into a fast, forechecking F with a bit of scoring. I wonder about him filling in as a cheaper replacement if they decide to save some cap space and find a trade for Iafallo.

 

[CorgisPer60]

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I'm sitting here waiting for an Elias Salomonsson contract, but turns out that he signed one mere days after being drafted. Man, I don't remember that at all.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Nobody is talking about Parker Ford but he was right behind Chibrikov in Moose scoring (more goals, less PP time). He is one of those Heisinger, whoever our scouts are in the Eastern NCAA, finds. Turns 24 before next training camp. I think he didn't get into the final game, even though called up, because his family couldn't make it, but one of those buzzsaw, low centre of gravity players, goes to scoring areas...He, Reichel, Viel were the Moose's best line when the team finally started turning their last place fortunes around. Had a good camp last season too. I'd say he is closer to an every game NHLer than Chibrikov after last season.

At 5'9 he has a disadvantage. Turning 24 next month makes him an unlikely prospect unless he is really lighting it up. You don't expect much improvement from a player that age. It would be great if he could become a Tanev type, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Aggie204]

At 5'9 he has a disadvantage. Turning 24 next month makes him an unlikely prospect unless he is really lighting it up. You don't expect much improvement from a player that age. It would be great if he could become a Tanev type, but I'm not holding my breath.

Do you recall what age Tanev was when he joined the team?

 

[10Ducky10]

Do you recall what age Tanev was when he joined the team?

24

 

[voyageur]

Good point. I like Ford, but as you note, he's 24 and probably doesn't feature as more than a bottom-6 energy forward at the NHL level. Maybe he takes a jump, but that would be unusual. Generally, I see a lot of NHL teams using bigger forwards in their bottom-6. There are now a lot more big and fast energy players available.

I do wonder about Kupari's trajectory. He has top-end speed and he can play an aggressive fore-checking game. Has some puck skills, but doesn't seem to have high-end hockey sense. But I could see him translate into a fast, forechecking F with a bit of scoring. I wonder about him filling in as a cheaper replacement if they decide to save some cap space and find a trade for Iafallo.

He does remind a bit of Tanev...Maybe less physical but quick out there...maybe better hands...I'd say if you are looking for energy over size he'd be good in a 4th line role. Ford had a solid first pro season, was a late cut in camp. He might put some pressure on those 4th line guys...hard to call Kupari anything but a disappointment in his first year as a Jet, not sure where he fits in now...