Jets - internal salary cap?

[nobody imp0rtant]

What’s the point of this thread other than to insinuate the Jets have an internal cap.

True North have been spending to the cap max every season since they became perennial contenders. It’s been virtually a full decade now.

Take this thread back to our rebuilding years where it belongs.

Aren’t we past this?

If the Jets fail epically again come playoff time, those rebuilding years could return sooner than later.

 

[Cnile]

League better balance out the revenue sharing to help about 20 ish teams a lot or this will very quickly become a 8-10 team league and the rest of the teams just become feeder teams for the ones who have big revenue. If they don’t balance it out well, NHL isn’t worth watching anymore.

Yep think Baseball/Basketball
Add in gambling and pro sports losing it’s appeal for many.

 

[Cnile]

What’s the point of this thread other than to insinuate the Jets have an internal cap.

True North have been spending to the cap max every season since they became perennial contenders. It’s been virtually a full decade now.

Take this thread back to our rebuilding years where it belongs.

Aren’t we past this?

I agree but…..
This is a very rapid change.
Let’s take Ehlers and KFC for how this news impacts our Jets. Their agents know they are in a market where they can get much more money than Bucky and Scheifele got.
What does this do to a team that has navigated a stagnant cap very deftly while keeping a consistent core together based on economic realities.
The Jets aren’t the only club this affects.
I’m sure Colorado knew about this and still decided not to rock the boat by signing Rants to a bigger deal than Nate?
This isn’t great news for many teams not located in Toronto,Edmonton,New York or even Montreal

 

[Hobble]

Watch all games only be available on Prime in a couple of years .

I’d welcome that if there were no blackouts.

 

[Jets 31]

That American dollar exchange is a killer for most of the Canadian teams.

 

[Gm0ney]

I’d welcome that if there were no blackouts.

I was thinking that too, but a total NHL package would probably be an extra add-on.

 

[DRW204]

Agreed but tickets for a Jets game cost more than some places especially in some U.S markets.

By how much?
And Jets have a smaller arena so prices may be higher due to that plus 40%+ multiplier to player cost.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

If the Jets fail epically again come playoff time, those rebuilding years could return sooner than later.

The NHL has been a coin flip league for decades now. Perennially getting into the playoffs as a top seed is quite the accomplishment.

Since 2022 we have the most regulation wins & since 2023 the best record in hockey. It's now been 3 seasons of regular season dominance with no sign of our core aging out.

Chevy isn't blowing up a team of this calibre anytime soon & the NHL just did us a favour with the salary cap jump allowing Chevy to re-sign the entire list of UFA's & RFA's & run this roster back again next year.

A rebuild in Winnipeg is a long time away.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

I agree but…..
This is a very rapid change.
Let’s take Ehlers and KFC for how this news impacts our Jets. Their agents know they are in a market where they can get much more money than Bucky and Scheifele got.
What does this do to a team that has navigated a stagnant cap very deftly while keeping a consistent core together based on economic realities.
The Jets aren’t the only club this affects.
I’m sure Colorado knew about this and still decided not to rock the boat by signing Rants to a bigger deal than Nate?
This isn’t great news for many teams not located in Toronto,Edmonton,New York or even Montreal

Agents in all markets will be asking for an appropriate percentage of the new cap and they'll get it.

In 2026 Kyle Connor will be the highest paid Jet & it'll be a minimum $2 million over the present Scheifele & Hellebyuck contracts.

Neither of them will bat an eye knowing it's not only in the best interest of the Jets but also the NHL players union.

 

[Cnile]

Agents in all markets will be asking for an appropriate percentage of the new cap and they'll get it.

In 2026 Kyle Connor will be the highest paid Jet & it'll be a minimum $2 million over the present Scheifele & Hellebyuck contracts.

Neither of them will bat an eye knowing it's not only in the best interest of the Jets but also the NHL players union.

My point was simply it’s extremely rapid in terms of the increases.
The cap has been static for a while now and it was probably a bit easier to keep the band together.
Cheveldayoff has managed the cap very well and our core has stayed on for very reasonable salaries.
You and I are merely speculating that players would or would not have issues with this.
We really don’t know, human nature can be unpredictable.
This is going to affect small market clubs and how they attempt to keep cores consistent.
We can only guess that the Jets will be mid cap going forward.
This is where playoff success is paramount to Winnipegs bottom line, it becomes even more crucial.
Ticket prices are going to rise a lot and now support is critical.
The perfect storm.
Weak Canadian dollar.
Lack of playoff success.
Low corporate support.
Small …at times apathetic market.
Ballooning cap.
There are reasons to be cautious or concerned.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

You and I are merely speculating that players would or would not have issues with this.

The players union & the agents are all aware of the current guidelines in the Collective Bargaining Agreement & have an excellent understanding of when & how much the cap will increase.

It's a major factor for both the GM & player & plays into the term of every contract signed.

You're speculating that the Jets have players on their roster that would be envious of their teammates good fortune.

On the contrary this is what occurs.

 

[Cnile]

The players union & the agents are all aware of the current guidelines in the Collective Bargaining Agreement & have an excellent understanding of when & how much the cap will increase.

It's a major factor for both the GM & player & plays into the term of every contract signed.

You're speculating that the Jets have players on their roster that would be envious of their teammates good fortune.

On the contrary this is what occurs.

I’m only saying it is a possibility.
The main takeaway of my post was more the cap increases are potentially very harmful for smaller markets.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

I’m only saying it is a possibility.
The main takeaway of my post was more the cap increases are potentially very harmful for smaller markets.

Certainly the size of our market and our arena are a factor.

So is our fervent fan base, a private casino, swallowing up all the property in the immediate area for the investment of hundreds of millions into True North Square, populating it with local restaurant tenants with no ties to chain franchises, having the richest man in Canada as a co owner, the franchise value exponentially increasing in value since it was moved from Atlanta in 2010 and the consistent performance the team displays on the ice year after year driving passion for the product.

Our market may be small, but Chipman clearly has a plan in place that makes it work.

 

[DRW204]

The salary cap is going up big time in each of the next 3 years - by 27-28 it will be $163million Can - and with Trump for the next 4 years the Can dollar might be even worse.

I know the cap is 50% of revenue but has the Jets revenue increased at the same rate as overall revenues? Also know David Thomson is one of the richest men in the world , but I don't buy the argument that insulates the Jets from any revenue shortcomings. I always felt his interest in TNSE was more of a real estate play than a hockey one. The super rich didn't get that way by losing money.

Do you think the Jets will keep spending to the max? I'm unsure at best.

this is from Oct 2024

Sportico's NHL Valuations

 

[Buffdog]

Certainly the size of our market and our arena are a factor.

So is our fervent fan base, a private casino, swallowing up all the property in the immediate area for the investment of hundreds of millions into True North Square, populating it with local restaurant tenants with no ties to chain franchises, having the richest man in Canada as a co owner, the franchise value exponentially increasing in value since it was moved from Atlanta in 2010 and the consistent performance the team displays on the ice year after year driving passion for the product.

Our market may be small, but Chipman clearly has a plan in place that makes it work.

I'm sure Chipman and co have war-gamed this scenario and have laid out some options

 

[gojetsgo]

this is from Oct 2024

Sportico's NHL Valuations

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is that in usd?