Weezeric
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Datsyuk does not have to be paid. It is just the cap. I want Ouellet with Dats. Will pay within reason.
I wonder if Detroit would do 16 and dats for 36...
Datsyuk does not have to be paid. It is just the cap. I want Ouellet with Dats. Will pay within reason.
I wonder if Detroit would do 16 and dats for 36...
I wonder if the Jets would. Not sure i see the need to move to 16 exactly unless that deal is contingent on a D man being available at 16...
You look at 17. Nashville - Do they need any D prospects even? 18.Philly- they don't. 19. NYI- Possibly 20. Arizona - they pick at 7, gotta think if they go D at 7 they don't here and vice versa really. 21. Carolina- they don't need any more D prospects either..
I'd almost take the risk that if a couple (2 or 3) d guys fall to 16 that maybe just maybe one or 2 of them make it to me at 22 since the teams needs from 17 to 21 really do seem to be more forward than D.
I have said before, if there are a few D still left and Jets want to have their choice, I would do 22 and a fwd ( Burmi ??) for Flyers at 18.
I wonder if the Jets would. Not sure i see the need to move to 16 exactly unless that deal is contingent on a D man being available at 16...
You look at 17. Nashville - Do they need any D prospects even? 18.Philly- they don't. 19. NYI- Possibly 20. Arizona - they pick at 7, gotta think if they go D at 7 they don't here and vice versa really. 21. Carolina- they don't need any more D prospects either..
I'd almost take the risk that if a couple (2 or 3) d guys fall to 16 that maybe just maybe one or 2 of them make it to me at 22 since the teams needs from 17 to 21 really do seem to be more forward than D.
Cool avy refresh benny!!
I guess my thing is... Taking on Datsyuks cap hit for even just a year, I'd probably want something a little more than just pick 16. I like the idea of Xavier Oulette and Datsyuk for something, but i'm not sure that something is a 2nd round pick..
If it was Datsyuk Oulette and 16 for 36? Yeah i'd probably do that. I just don't think I'd take Datsyuks Cap Hit just for pick 16, who is a few years away. I'd want a now piece.
You can want anything but it will be a competition to get something for nothing from Detroit. We are not the only team with cap space. Datsyuk costs us absolutely zero. Getting a 7th would still be something for nothing so there has to be some compromise. By asking for too much all you do is take yourself out of the game.
At this stage of the build a draft with #2, #16 and #22 is incredible. 16 could be Fabbro. There is very little chance that 22 could. But 22 could still be a very good LHD or a C with top 6 upside, maybe Little's eventual replacement.
OTOH I would be very happy to do Dats + Ouellet for 36 too. Or we could hold out for more and watch Dats + Jurco got to Carolina for a 2nd.
Thanks, born and raised and reason im a Flyers fan...
What you think the cost would be for Jets to move up to Flyers pick ? I really can't see Flyers taking a D man unless one of the top 3 drops .
Considering what Carolina got for taking on the Bickell contract, Jets won't have to add anything. Rumor seems to be that the Wings are willing to give up Pullkinen or Jurco to offload Datsyuk. I really hope the Jets can put all that unused capspace to some use. There is no reason to have all that capspace just sitting there not doing anything.
I wonder if the Jets would maybe need to unload someone like Stafford (to Carolina for a 3rd & 4th?) if they're going to take Datsyuk's contract. I do like the idea of taking on Datsyuk's contract for a decent return, though.
capfriendly.com shows the Jets as having just under $20 million in cap space. I'd expect Scheifele and Trouba to use up at least half of that. Taking on Datsyuk's contract would not leave very much cap space to sign the other RFA's and any potential UFA's, plus some room for the season.
I was thinking the same thing until I looked at the numbers. If the Jets sign both Scheif and Trouba long term they likely won't have the room to eat $7.5 M of dead cap space. Right now they are sitting at $19.7 M of space with 18 players under contract (assuming a static cap). Let's say Scheif gets a $6 M AAV and Trouba $5 M AAV we have $8.7 to sign Lowry, Hutch, Tanev and Armia. Even if those are all nice bridge deals we will still have less than the required $7.5 M. Other moves would have to be made and it would be a bit said if we had a quick bounce back next season but artificially handcuffed ourselves and couldn't improve the roster at the TD if we were in contention.
Tanev will be in the A. So will either Hutch or Pav. The cap will go up 1.4. Still awfully tight. I'm afraid there is just no choice. We will be forced to trade both Thor and Stu.
Trade Stafford, buyout Pav, plenty of room.
Not saying you couldn't make it work but it would be a tight squeeze. I'm afraid to say Pavs will be one of our goalies either way. I don't think they buy him out going into his final season. Trading Stafford is a possibility.
Even if Chevy was playing with the thought it is unlikely to happen before the Jets know the final number on both Scheif and Trouba and Detroit will need to clear the space before July 1 to take a run at Stamkos.
How about Myers to the Leafs for the 31st overall and Marincin?
We don't need RD and I'm pretty sure that Marincin won't be expansion exempt. I don't think Chevy is in the market to trade a top 4 D for a 2nd round pick.
If the rumour about cbj listening on #3 but having to include hartnell are true...what could the jets offer?hartnell contract isn't great 3 more years at 4.75 I believe, however feel he is still serviceable. To get number 3 even with hartnell could be costly. Assuming cbj is looking for cost controlled, roslovic, Connor, 22, 36. Being good/great pieces. Maybe some quantity add on.......note, not saying all that in one package just listing what cbj may be interested in
I wonder if the Jets would maybe need to unload someone like Stafford (to Carolina for a 3rd & 4th?) if they're going to take Datsyuk's contract. I do like the idea of taking on Datsyuk's contract for a decent return, though.
capfriendly.com shows the Jets as having just under $20 million in cap space. I'd expect Scheifele and Trouba to use up at least half of that. Taking on Datsyuk's contract would not leave very much cap space to sign the other RFA's and any potential UFA's, plus some room for the season.
It's a cap-hit. They don't physically have to pay him anything, so we could take on Datsyuk easily. It's a one year cap hit of zero real dollars.
Jets best chance at #3 is probably to first go after another high pick and trade up. Maybe go after #4 from the Oilers or #7 from the Yotes using Myers+, and then trade the pick with a good prospect and pick to move up to #3.
Really unrealistic scenario, I would think.