Wins Above Replacement. It's an attempt to be a "total player value stat".
It's imperfect and flawed as you would expect with a total value statistic, but a good starting point for discussion.
Ahhh, so it's hogwash. Gotcha.
Wins Above Replacement. It's an attempt to be a "total player value stat".
It's imperfect and flawed as you would expect with a total value statistic, but a good starting point for discussion.
Trouba will have to take another big step to be worth that next summer. I think he'll get there, but too much is based on potential.
Let's see him come close to John Klingberg's numbers first. Dallas stole him (7 x 4.25).
I think the 'shorter term' rumours probably mean 5, not 3-4. Even 5x7 is too much when you consider we also have Enstrom, Myers and Trouba to pay big money to. Tarasenko's contract is a clue to what Trouba will cost next off-season. Think 8 years x $7 mil. The RHD starters alone would cost 19.5 mil out of maybe a 73 mil cap. The only way to make the numbers fit is by fantasizing about Trouba signing 8x4mil or Buff taking 4x5mil or similar unrealistic projections. Chevy could sign Trouba and Scheif to lower $$$ shorter term contracts but then the numbers will really get high for their next contracts or we will lose them altogether. Young players that are not even pending RFAs are getting the big money now.
Just when I was starting to think Buff might be affordable we get the contracts of ROR, Saad and Tarasenko. One might be a team overpaying. 2 is a trend. 3 is the new reality. We are all going to have to adjust our expectations. That applies to the return we might expect for our 30+ veterans too.
This new trend (if we can call it that, it's probably more like smart management ), of teams deciding to spend their money on the mid 20's players over the 30+ guys, along with a lot of teams being close to the cap, and the cap possibly not growing at a large rate over the next few years, has a definite impact to my expectations of a possible Buff trade (if the team was looking into it).
I believe this reinforces the case for trading Buff but it also reduces the likely return. Can't afford to keep him and can't get much for him. We haven't had much leak out but there is no indication Chevy has any intention of trading him. Apparently some teams were inquiring about him at the draft but Chevy was not interested.
Yea Dallas took a mild risk at worst going long on Klingberg early and I think it was a brilliant play given the trends we are seeing this off season.
Trouba will be interesting, some of it may come down to this season and if we keep him with the boat anchor again and also what some other GM will pay in an offer sheet? If I was Chevy I wouldn't get too cute and I would also factor in a $7 million AAV budget long term to be safe although I think Hamilton is a solid comp for now.
The larger question in play these days seems to be whether a team would rather pay a Gio type 7 x $7 or $8 for his 32 to 38 year old years or pay the same or less cash for a yet to be in his prime Jacob Trouba?
It's a terrible contract because Klingberfs production is largely unsustainable. I would prove it, but I don't have time right now.
If his possession numbers are sustainable, it's good enough.
Wins Above Replacement. It's an attempt to be a "total player value stat".
It's imperfect and flawed as you would expect with a total value statistic, but a good starting point for discussion.
Discussion, like, for example, the notion that O'Dell wasn't good enough to make it over 'countless plugs' like Slater, Thorburn and Peluso? I liked O'Dell's game and would've had him in there over those humps in a second. Couldn't figure out why Slater was being played at 4C when O'Dell looked better than him whenever he was given a chance. I guess we'll see how he does in Ottawa...
I am a Chevy fan and really like a lot of his moves, but who knows what management has been thinking with our 4th line since Jets 2.0 moved here. When we first started our 3rd and 4th line were both gong shows, at least now we have more depth and have 3 strong lines. But as we saw in playoffs, our top 9 ran outve gas cause they were relied upon so much. It would be great to ice a fourth line that could play at least 9-10 minutes a night, maybe next year a line of Lemieux/Kosmo Copp Lipon would do the trick, they would be a nightmare to play against, its just a matter if all would be ready defensively.
edit: And I couldnt wait to see Tangradi, Peluso and Slater gone, as I like Thor as 12 or 13, but now we're stuck with uselessluso another two years.
We must improve as you see other teams improving in our division. For ex. Calgary.
And Washington.
****, the oilers look pretty good now they have that connor guy.
We must improve as you see other teams improving in our division. For ex. Calgary.
And Washington.
****, the oilers look pretty good now they have that connor guy.
But did anyone else in our division improve?
But did anyone else in our division improve?
Yeah, the Avalanche got Iginla, and the Stars got Spezza.
****, the oilers look pretty good now they have that connor guy.
So after all the posts here about Chevy "not wanting to overpay" and "saving it for phantom resignings several years down the road", can we agree that the Stafford contract is easily the top 3 overpays of this offseason after watching how the UFA market turned out?