Post-Game Talk: Jets crowned lose 3-2

[Jetsfan79]

The fans were quiet, lots of empty seats. post game thread only three pages. Even the haters don’t care anymore. Apathy abounds.

Was there really that many empty seats? Listed attendance was 14,000+

 

[LowLefty]

I betcha Lowry is wishing he wasn't the last man standing when they were asking for coaching volunteers after Mo left -
Another no show and the fans in the stands are paying the price - something has to give in the offseason - I can't see how they would possibly send a new coach into that den.
Serious roster changes are in order - regardless of how much we have invested in this core and what the expectations might have been.
It's reality time . . . .

 

[Zippity]

Was there really that many empty seats? Listed attendance was 14000+

Call BS on that, there was tons of seats open. Only 2 people in the row in front and 3-4 in the row behind me

 

[rehf]

Noel era teams with little talent were better than this crap.

And much more entertaining. Don't even bother watching the games anymore right now, waste of time.

 

[CorgisPer60]

I went to see The Batman. Good movie overall. This season is a wash. I hope Cheveldayoff is working the phones to get a good coach for the off season.

 

[robertocarlos]

Jets should have won. Kempe is so dumb he traded a stick for a Canadean chocolate bar. We should beat dumb teams.

 

[JonS]

Just tired of the same old the last few years. I hope they can plug in a few upgrades on the D even from within, or trade someone for a stud D man to build around. Heinola looks different than the other defenders on this team, and that is a good thing. Lot of teams looking for coaching this offseason, hopefully they get a good one and staff.

 

[buggs]

Call BS on that, there was tons of seats open. Only 2 people in the row in front and 3-4 in the row behind me

Where are you sitting? Genuinely asking. Sitting in 103 and we did have about 8 seats in a row empty, but 103 is a promo section they don't always fill. I'd peg attendance at 13K+. Clearly not a sellout but they haven't sold out once this year so not a real big surprise. LA wasn't a draw at the start of the year, expected to finish below us (LOL). With Covid restrictions still in place and hesitancy from many about being in large crowds combined with the Jets less than stellar season that's not an unreasonable crowd.

As for the crowd, it was fine. Not the loudest but they were fine. It's a helluva lot better now that the mask mandate is largely gone/ignored. The crowd is responsive to the game the Jets play, this wasn't particularly stellar with lots of players really not up for the game it would seem. Long gone are the days of losing one's shit just because we have a hockey team. That first period was really quite disappointing to put it politely, so given the 20 minute ballpark effort from the team I'd honestly give the crowd props for being into it.

Seems a shit ton of hot takes too in here. Only keeping Dubois and Connor? Seriously? Ehlers. Helle. Morrissey. Quite a few more that I'd keep as well, though I'd consider those already mentioned as untouchable outside a stupid return, which won't happen. So Perfetti, Lowry, Stats, Appleton, Svech and others I'd be quite content to keep outside of that silly return that exists in our imaginations. Hell, I'm really reluctant to move Scheifele until we see what a new coaching regime can do and I've been very disappointed in his game for years - but the talent is massive and if we can fix him that's insane to have Dubois/Scheifele as 1/2.

Honestly, the team isn't that short of talent, the issue is with attitude that stems from the Maurice downfall with nothing changing with Lowry and the same systems in place. Clean house in coaching (Huddy, Flaherty at least, move Lowry back down), bring in someone that won't cater to any particular player and this team can accomplish. By all means, trade anyone that wants out with a poor attitude, that's fine. But a full on rebuild? Nope, can' get behind that.

Disappointing loss, disappointing season. But I haven't really expected the Jets to make the playoffs for quite some time. I think management made that call at the trade deadline. Good for others being optimistic though.

 

[Howard Chuck]

So at the beginning of next year, I don’t want to hear about so and so is a slow starter, it’s ok we can make it up later, or any of that shit.

Anyone that doesn’t show up right out of camp should be on the 4th line out of the gate. We spend so much time trying to ‘get guys going’ that we forget about winning games.

 

[Thechozen1]

And that is why I see what the offers are.

Maybe Columbus wants to reunite him with Laine and Bjorgstrand. Ehlers for Sillinger and their 1st get you thinking about it?

Not a chance I do that trade if I’m the Jets. First off, the Columbus 1st will barely be higher than the Jets pick. Secondly, Sillinger has 22 points and is a -24 on the season. People want to complain about how bad Scheifele is defensively then they’ll be livid with Sillinger. And I know plus/minus isn’t everything, but Ehlers is worth much much more.

 

[Jets]

/season

 

[Jets 31]

Well that sucked, absolutely have to trade Scheifele this off season, guy doesn't skate , work hard, or even shoot the puck anymore. Very hard to watch him play. As far as playoffs........

 

[johnnyonthspot]

Call BS on that, there was tons of seats open. Only 2 people in the row in front and 3-4 in the row behind me

I guess there were a lot of 'no shows" just like the Jets

 

[fryfunk]

A lot of people are off the wall. This is an impossible market to get UFAs or even keeping RFAs.

This is as good as a Manitoba team will ever be.

Bucky, pretty much adds 20 million a year to this teams cap, by covering for a lot of defensive failures made by the reset of the team.

 

[Jet]

Where are you sitting? Genuinely asking. Sitting in 103 and we did have about 8 seats in a row empty, but 103 is a promo section they don't always fill. I'd peg attendance at 13K+. Clearly not a sellout but they haven't sold out once this year so not a real big surprise. LA wasn't a draw at the start of the year, expected to finish below us (LOL). With Covid restrictions still in place and hesitancy from many about being in large crowds combined with the Jets less than stellar season that's not an unreasonable crowd.

As for the crowd, it was fine. Not the loudest but they were fine. It's a helluva lot better now that the mask mandate is largely gone/ignored. The crowd is responsive to the game the Jets play, this wasn't particularly stellar with lots of players really not up for the game it would seem. Long gone are the days of losing one's shit just because we have a hockey team. That first period was really quite disappointing to put it politely, so given the 20 minute ballpark effort from the team I'd honestly give the crowd props for being into it.

Seems a shit ton of hot takes too in here. Only keeping Dubois and Connor? Seriously? Ehlers. Helle. Morrissey. Quite a few more that I'd keep as well, though I'd consider those already mentioned as untouchable outside a stupid return, which won't happen. So Perfetti, Lowry, Stats, Appleton, Svech and others I'd be quite content to keep outside of that silly return that exists in our imaginations. Hell, I'm really reluctant to move Scheifele until we see what a new coaching regime can do and I've been very disappointed in his game for years - but the talent is massive and if we can fix him that's insane to have Dubois/Scheifele as 1/2.

Honestly, the team isn't that short of talent, the issue is with attitude that stems from the Maurice downfall with nothing changing with Lowry and the same systems in place. Clean house in coaching (Huddy, Flaherty at least, move Lowry back down), bring in someone that won't cater to any particular player and this team can accomplish. By all means, trade anyone that wants out with a poor attitude, that's fine. But a full on rebuild? Nope, can' get behind that.

Disappointing loss, disappointing season. But I haven't really expected the Jets to make the playoffs for quite some time. I think management made that call at the trade deadline. Good for others being optimistic though.

Oh so many hot takes in this thread haha. I was going to start responding but why bother.

 

[Jet]

Why do you say that?
All options should be explored.
No one is taking 26's contract.
The return for Ehler's is greater than for 55.
I am not saying culture change is not needed but the next coach determines the teams identity.
The question is what type of players are needed to play in the system and buy into the identity.

I don't think that's right. Even though Ehlers is an exciting, highly skilled player, his production puts him as a second line winger.

Scheifele is a ppg 1C with size, in his prime, on a sweetheart deal.

If you offered the two players to any team and they had to pick one, I would be shocked if anyone picked 27.

We love Ehlers here, and I agree that any rebuild needs to include him, but he's the 4th best forward on this team. I think he's actually better than Scheifele in a net, help the team win way, but in terms of value no way.

 

[Jet]

A lot of people are off the wall. This is an impossible market to get UFAs or even keeping RFAs.

This is as good as a Manitoba team will ever be.

Bucky, pretty much adds 20 million a year to this teams cap, by covering for a lot of defensive failures made by the reset of the team.

How on earth did you come to this conclusion?

The Jets are a cap team
The Jets have been at the cap for a long time
We have signed many of our rfas and will continue to do so
We have also signed plenty of ufas
We've had better teams here and will again

 

[kanadalainen]

This thread is a swirling, heaving, sucking morass of hot takes.

 

[kanadalainen]

Coelacanth of the game:

Nikky Ehlers

 

[kanadalainen]

Where are you sitting? Genuinely asking. Sitting in 103 and we did have about 8 seats in a row empty, but 103 is a promo section they don't always fill. I'd peg attendance at 13K+. Clearly not a sellout but they haven't sold out once this year so not a real big surprise. LA wasn't a draw at the start of the year, expected to finish below us (LOL). With Covid restrictions still in place and hesitancy from many about being in large crowds combined with the Jets less than stellar season that's not an unreasonable crowd.

As for the crowd, it was fine. Not the loudest but they were fine. It's a helluva lot better now that the mask mandate is largely gone/ignored. The crowd is responsive to the game the Jets play, this wasn't particularly stellar with lots of players really not up for the game it would seem. Long gone are the days of losing one's shit just because we have a hockey team. That first period was really quite disappointing to put it politely, so given the 20 minute ballpark effort from the team I'd honestly give the crowd props for being into it.

Seems a shit ton of hot takes too in here. Only keeping Dubois and Connor? Seriously? Ehlers. Helle. Morrissey. Quite a few more that I'd keep as well, though I'd consider those already mentioned as untouchable outside a stupid return, which won't happen. So Perfetti, Lowry, Stats, Appleton, Svech and others I'd be quite content to keep outside of that silly return that exists in our imaginations. Hell, I'm really reluctant to move Scheifele until we see what a new coaching regime can do and I've been very disappointed in his game for years - but the talent is massive and if we can fix him that's insane to have Dubois/Scheifele as 1/2.

Honestly, the team isn't that short of talent, the issue is with attitude that stems from the Maurice downfall with nothing changing with Lowry and the same systems in place. Clean house in coaching (Huddy, Flaherty at least, move Lowry back down), bring in someone that won't cater to any particular player and this team can accomplish. By all means, trade anyone that wants out with a poor attitude, that's fine. But a full on rebuild? Nope, can' get behind that.

Disappointing loss, disappointing season. But I haven't really expected the Jets to make the playoffs for quite some time. I think management made that call at the trade deadline. Good for others being optimistic though.

Nice post. The attendance looked like 14 k honestly. The crowd was into it whenever the Jets gave them cause.

 

[Mud Turtle]

Ehlers was on fire last night. So many beautiful set-ups that weren’t converted by his line mates. He brings so much to this team. No way we trade him.
Someone also posted that Josh Morrissey isn’t used properly. I totally agree with that. He has way more offensive potential than what he is usually allowed to show. He’s been doing it more lately and it’s great to see the old Josh back. Heinola in that same category obviously.
It’s hard to think about getting rid of Scheifele but I think we have to be honest with ourselves and admit that he’s not the same player that he was in this first few years, for whatever reason.
I would definitely take some younger players that are ready to start now in place of Scheifele and build around a core of Connor, Perfetti, Ehlers, Morrissey, Heinola, Hellebuyck, Dubois.
That’s a terrific core.

 

[FonRiesen]

This thread is a swirling, heaving, sucking morass of hot takes.

I don't blame anyone for needing to process/vent. It was a rough loss that, for the optimistic, was the final nail in the coffin. All that's left is mathematical elimination, covering up the 21-22 season with dirt.

I just hope our management takes the opportunity to already start preparing for next year - let's start playing our prospects more that till stick around, and how 'bout some vets who are clearly not putting in 100% get a nice healthy scratch breather for a couple of games (I'm guessing that won't happen until the math is complete - though it should have happened earlier when we still had a chance to turn this around).

And the minute our season is done, we should be able to send our young'uns down to the Moose for a nice long playoff run, right? (or are there rules around that?)

 

[surixon]

Ehlers was on fire last night. So many beautiful set-ups that weren’t converted by his line mates. He brings so much to this team. No way we trade him.
Someone also posted that Josh Morrissey isn’t used properly. I totally agree with that. He has way more offensive potential than what he is usually allowed to show. He’s been doing it more lately and it’s great to see the old Josh back. Heinola in that same category obviously.
It’s hard to think about getting rid of Scheifele but I think we have to be honest with ourselves and admit that he’s not the same player that he was in this first few years, for whatever reason.
I would definitely take some younger players that are ready to start now in place of Scheifele and build around a core of Connor, Perfetti, Ehlers, Morrissey, Heinola, Hellebuyck, Dubois.
That’s a terrific core.

I agree especially if we can back a real good young RD as part of the package for Mark.

I also agree that we need a coach that encourages more in the way of defensive switches in the ozone. Both JoMo and Heinola are very good at it and it adds a whole new layer of offense.

 

[surixon]

I don't blame anyone for needing to process/vent. It was a rough loss that, for the optimistic, was the final nail in the coffin. All that's left is mathematical elimination, covering up the 21-22 season with dirt.

I just hope out management takes the opportunity to already start preparing for next year - let's start playing our prospects more that till stick around, and how 'bout some vets who are clearly not putting in 100% get a nice healthy scratch breather for a couple of games (I'm guessing that won't happen until the math is complete - though it should have happened earlier when we still had a chance to turn this around).

And the minute our season is done, we should be able to send our young'uns down to the Moose for a nice long playoff run, right? (or are there rules around that?)

They need to be on the clear day to be eligible to play. For us that means Ville and Morgan can go down and play but Perfetti isn't eligible as they were not able to send him down while injured.

 

[FonRiesen]

They need to be on the clear day to be eligible to play. For us that means Ville and Morgan can go down and play but Perfetti isn't eligible as they were not able to send him down while injured.

Ah, right. Sucks for Perfetti - it would have been great for him to lead a playoff team...