Post-Game Talk: Jets 8 - Bruins 1

[Jetfaninflorida]

Entertaining game for the home crowd last night. The team needed a feel good game. The Gus fight was a load of horseshit. Good on him for not backing down but come on man. Hope he is ok.

 

[The Blue Baron]

Their 5th SO win.

Frauds!

 

[DRW204]

Only one game but I like Chibby's game far more than Lambert at this point. He plays fast and direct. He's not scared to drive the net and gets pucks on goal.

Lambert looks much faster and skilled but it's almost hindering him until he learns to use it properly. Too much perimeter and tipsy doodles that might look impressive but ultimately he's just using the space given. He needs to work on taking the dangerous space that isn't given.

i just posted in the chibrikov thread, but chibrikov's game is what the top-6 is kind of missing in my view. ideally would like a guy with a bit more size, but he can possibly play the skilled agitator role. that shot was money, 4 hits and 2 penalties drawn.

when the fwds are healthy, at the minimum, they should consider him for barron. the top-6 likely doesn't get changed, but there's options if Perfetti continues to be inconsistent offensively.

 

[UFO]

Hopefully everything is ok .

Thank you my friend, feeling better already.

 

[Jets 31]

Thank you my friend, feeling better already.

8-1 wins have a way of doing that.

 

[GNP]

why appleton? what has barron done all year? appleton can atleast score on a goalie

Their really both the same kind of player, very bad scoring hands. I think Chiibby would do better on the 3rd line tho, as Nino and Lowry are pretty good players to set him up. Barron has struggled as well this year.

 

[voyageur]

When and if the Jets get back to full strength injury wise they will go back to the veteran lineup they have had for most of the year, now if Chibby plays like last night and pots a few more goals then that might throw a wrench into those plans. What a great problem to have.

Everybody likes goals, but I think Arniel still has the plan with roles. Jets PK has fallen to 22nd, and a big reason for that is their best PKer is on the shelf.

For the bottom 6 guys who are here, I think you might be in danger of losing your job to a deadline acquistion if you don't pick it up. Morgan Barron has better metrics than AI, Kupari and Namestnikov on the PK. So far Gus has been used sparingly as a PKer which is a bit of a surprise given that is basically the role that has kept him in Winnipeg so long. But he hasn't been good on the draw either. I'd say there is a good chance he is on waivers next year, this year he might survive and get those opportunities if someone in the bottom 6 goes down.

PP2 hasn't really been the issue this year. Maybe with Ehlers going down and Perfetti moving up, no one filled the void. Which Chibrikov just did. If you are looking forward, maybe you see Chibrikov as the replacement for Ehlers.

I guess if Chibrikov has a high enough impact 5 on 5 you could consider moving someone out of the lineup. But it's a little difficult to conceive of improving a bad PK that has cost the team some points in recent games by negation.

 

[voyageur]

i just posted in the chibrikov thread, but chibrikov's game is what the top-6 is kind of missing in my view. ideally would like a guy with a bit more size, but he can possibly play the skilled agitator role. that shot was money, 4 hits and 2 penalties drawn.

when the fwds are healthy, at the minimum, they should consider him for barron. the top-6 likely doesn't get changed, but there's options if Perfetti continues to be inconsistent offensively.

If you're Chevy does this result making trading Ehlers easier? Is Chibrikov a more complementary player to Perfetti's game than Ehlers? Because he is more tenacious. And a shooter who will go to the greasy areas. What would be the result of that? Does Ehlers come back to play on Lowry's line which is really a top 6 role? That would change the look of the team for sure offensively.

Iafallo, Barron/Kupari and Appleton as 4th liners will give you effort, no question.

 

[DRW204]

If you're Chevy does this result making trading Ehlers easier? Is Chibrikov a more complementary player to Perfetti's game than Ehlers? Because he is more tenacious. And a shooter who will go to the greasy areas. What would be the result of that? Does Ehlers come back to play on Lowry's line which is really a top 6 role. That would change the look of the team for sure offensively.

no. don't think they trade ehlers who is a top-3 scoring fwd on this team, and the 2nd line has been missing consistent offense w/o him. id wager when ehlers is back he's back right in the top-6. they're a PO team, v likely not trading one of their main offensive producers.

chibrikov had a good game for sure. it's one game and trying not to get ahead of ourselves. it may make the options open for players who cannot produce consistently at top-6/9 wing. if anything, id like to see ehlers and chibrikov get some burn together.

 

[voyageur]

no. don't think they trade ehlers who is a top-3 scoring fwd on this team, and the 2nd line has been missing consistent offense w/o him. id wager when ehlers is back he's back right in the top-6. they're a PO team, v likely not trading one of their main offensive producers.

chibrikov had a good game for sure. if anything it should make the options open for players who cannot produce consistently at top-6 wing. if anything, id like to see ehlers and chibrikov get some burn together.

But I don't see Arny icing Perfetti a third of the way into the season. He's an important piece of the future. Without question the more direct game and shooting qualities of Chibrikov complements Perfetti, who is going to make more passes than score goals. Probably would be that way on the PP too. As you said though having a guy who can legitimately play top 6 gives a lot more options offensively.

 

[DRW204]

But I don't see Arny icing Perfetti a third of the way into the season. He's an important piece of the future. Without question the more direct game and shooting qualities of Chibrikov complements Perfetti, who is going to make more passes than score goals. Probably would be that way on the PP too. As you said though having a guy who can legitimately play top 6 gives a lot more options offensively.

and i dont see the Jets moving one of their best producers off a game or 2.
it's one game with chibrikov. id be v surprised if they trade one of their best players b/c of it. like i said when ehlers comes back he's likely right into his spot, which means chibrikov is down the line up or out the line up. he should probably play over barron, and possibly be a top-9 option if a fwd is struggling or giving you nothing in game. id like to see more from chibrikov certainly, and think his game could fit ehlers' just as much if not better.

 

[Howard Chuck]

and i dont see the Jets moving one of their best producers off a game or 2.
it's one game with chibrikov. id be v surprised if they trade one of their best players b/c of it. like i said when ehlers comes back he's likely right into his spot, which means chibrikov is down the line up or out the line up. he should probably play over barron, and possibly be a top-9 option if a fwd is struggling or giving you nothing in game. id like to see more from chibrikov certainly, and think his game could fit ehlers' just as much if not better.

With a healthy lineup, it’s nice to see a possible logjam developing from within the organization. A great problem to have.

 

[Jets 31]

But I don't see Arny icing Perfetti a third of the way into the season. He's an important piece of the future. Without question the more direct game and shooting qualities of Chibrikov complements Perfetti, who is going to make more passes than score goals. Probably would be that way on the PP too. As you said though having a guy who can legitimately play top 6 gives a lot more options offensively.

If Chibby keeps playing like last night i would put Perfetti in the middle with Ehlers and Chibby. Then you could put Names on the 3rd or 4th but for right now a 8-1 win tells me to just leave it how it is until Ehlers is back.

 

[Jets 31]

The main thing though is i don't think @White Out 902 was disappointed last night.

 

[WolfHouse]

Will never happen because the 3rd line is untouchable but I would say our best lines are
CSV
Nino-Names-Ehlers
Perfetti-Lambert-Chib
Barron-Lowry-Kupari

The main thing though is i don't think @White Out 902 was disappointed last night.

He just got Tinder and HFBoards mixed up that's all... wasn't talking about the Jets at all

 

[voyageur]

and i dont see the Jets moving one of their best producers off a game or 2.
it's one game with chibrikov. id be v surprised if they trade one of their best players b/c of it. like i said when ehlers comes back he's likely right into his spot, which means chibrikov is down the line up or out the line up. he should probably play over barron, and possibly be a top-9 option if a fwd is struggling or giving you nothing in game. id like to see more from chibrikov certainly, and think his game could fit ehlers' just as much if not better.

I agree with that assessment but you have to look at what roles lines play. Do you want Chibrikov or Perfetti playing defensive zone draws, with guys like Kupari who is out there for the RH draws, or Iafallo, for the shot blocking. Barron for the defensive/neutral zone speed. It's a lot different role than starting in the o-zone, neutral zone. But in terms of rolling lines would keep the energy level up with a little more scoring touch.

Perfetti has been the most inconsistent of anyone in the top 6, maybe if you get something that works don't fix it, that's my reasoning. Nino is still ahead of anyone on the "2nd" line in ES goals. If Ehlers got some soft ice behind Lowry and Nino could he take it up a notch? You still have the speed on the wing that Appleton brings but a lot more dynamic. Once you have 3 scoring lines teams can get caught in mismatches. I don't see Perfetti as an option to play with Lowry, Chibrikov got a look in preseason so that one is more plausible.

 

[Crocket]

Whenever we play a greaseball team, that likes to use intimidation to win, I would certainly put Bauer in the lineup. He's a very very tough customer, and would keep the other team honest. We can't afford to lose good players when the score gets lopsided, and other teams start taking free shots at our talent guys.

Ya. I was worried when zadorov put scheifele into the boards on that goal. Helmet popped off, luckily no injury. But Perfetti received a definite headshot that could be a concussion, Gus definitely got his bell rung and a cut apparently.

Ugly and dirty team

 

[DRW204]

I agree with that assessment but you have to look at what roles lines play. Do you want Chibrikov or Perfetti playing defensive zone draws, with guys like Kupari who is out there for the RH draws, or Iafallo, for the shot blocking. Barron for the defensive/neutral zone speed. It's a lot different role than starting in the o-zone, neutral zone. But in terms of rolling lines would keep the energy level up with a little more scoring touch.

Perfetti has been the most inconsistent of anyone in the top 6, maybe if you get something that works don't fix it, that's my reasoning. Nino is still ahead of anyone on the "2nd" line in ES goals. If Ehlers got some soft ice behind Lowry and Nino could he take it up a notch? You still have the speed on the wing that Appleton brings but a lot more dynamic. Once you have 3 scoring lines teams can get caught in mismatches. I don't see Perfetti as an option to play with Lowry, Chibrikov got a look in preseason so that one is more plausible.

id have to see more of chibrikov prior to commenting. unless chibrikov is atrocious defensively against other 4th liners really don't see how he can't do what barron is doing. and add the fact barron is a nothing on offense, while chibrikov may possibly add some. plus perhaps draw more PPs.

if a top-9 injury ever occurred in-game, or a top-9W is not playing well, chibrikov is an option to move up rather than some combo of barron or iafallo in-game too.

they (perfetti+chibrikov) combined for the 8th goal in an 8-1 game. i am going to err on the side of waiting a bit before saying they should stick together and trade ehlers.

 

[Jets 31]

Will never happen because the 3rd line is untouchable but I would say our best lines are
CSV
Nino-Names-Ehlers
Perfetti-Lambert-Chib
Barron-Lowry-Kupari


He just got Tinder and HFBoards mixed up that's all... wasn't talking about the Jets at all

 

[Jets 31]

Just want to say i really enjoy this board when we win and everyone is in good moods .
Even @sipowicz .

 

[TS Quint]

But I don't see Arny icing Perfetti a third of the way into the season. He's an important piece of the future. Without question the more direct game and shooting qualities of Chibrikov complements Perfetti, who is going to make more passes than score goals. Probably would be that way on the PP too. As you said though having a guy who can legitimately play top 6 gives a lot more options offensively.

Is Perfetti going to be an important piece of the future? He's running out of time for "he's still young". By next year I don't want to hear any excuses about his age.

I was thinking he got the kick in the pants he needed last year and would come back this year strong but aren't we getting the same Perfetti we saw last year? Started out strong like everyone else but now the production is becoming more sparce as teams are locking down their defensive structure. To be honest that bridge is looking smarter and smarter for the Jets.
Some people who look at those speed stats say he's fast but I just see him late to everywhere he needs to be and does little more than waive his stick around. He does very little defensively to get the puck back. Offensively he has great vision but seems to use it from the perimeter for the most part like much of his game, which has worked well on the PP when he has all day to find some seems. He gets half his points on PP2. I guess you can say it's not fair to judge him without Ehlers but that's just admitting he isn't driving jack shit.

So far I'm seeing a complementary player more than a core piece.

 

[voyageur]

Is Perfetti going to be an important piece of the future? He's running out of time for "he's still young". By next year I don't want to hear any excuses about his age.

I was thinking he got the kick in the pants he needed last year and would come back this year strong but aren't we getting the same Perfetti we saw last year? Started out strong like everyone else but now the production is becoming more sparce as teams are locking down their defensive structure. To be honest that bridge is looking smarter and smarter for the Jets.
Some people who look at those speed stats say he's fast but I just see him late to everywhere he needs to be and does little more than waive his stick around. He does very little defensively to get the puck back. Offensively he has great vision but seems to use it from the perimeter for the most part like much of his game, which has worked well on the PP when he has all day to find some seems. He gets half his points on PP2. I guess you can say it's not fair to judge him without Ehlers but that's just admitting he isn't driving jack shit.

So far I'm seeing a complementary player more than a core piece.

I can't argue any of those points. Except he is signed for next season, which is a pivotal one in his career, his chance to cash out on 5 years of pro hockey, with the fortune of playing on the Moose as an 18 year old. Ehlers is not. And may not be re-signed. As a Jets fan you can't say what one good game translates into the future, but maybe there is more chemistry between Perfetti and Chibrikov than there ever will be with Ehlers. But maybe Cole is a bust, I don't want to write him off any faster than I want to annoint Chibrikov a sure fire top 6 weapon after one game. Still lots of season to play. Get to see them live on Thursday.

 

[Inanna]

On what planet is 6'2, 196 bigger than 6'3, 220?

For some guys, bragging about that extra inch is really important...

 

[White Out 902]

The main thing though is i don't think @White Out 902 was disappointed last night.

On the contrary, because of children throwing up and being sick in the middle of trying to get them to bed I missed almost the entire game. My disappointment is thick

 

[Inanna]

Said before the game that I thought the Jets were due to bring more energy to the game tonight and I got that part right. Something about a blind squirrel getting a nut rings true.

I don't know that "the Jets were due to bring" has any basis in reality (cf: Chicago or Nashville being due/overdue for a victory). And I don't know that "getting a nut" today means what you think it means (cf: Princess Bride). But I'm in enthusiastic agreement with everything else you said.

We were reminded why the number one line got that position and how smoothly they can pass and make plays, but it was a night when everyone was skating. When they weren't fighting. The officiating looked pretty good from my couch although they may have a let a few bad hits go on both sides Helle was both on his game and blessed with a lot of in-close luck and our defence was actually up to the challenge. So bring on Vegas!

Edit: Anyone else wishing we could have saved 4-5 of those goals for another game?