Post-Game Talk: Jets 6 - Red Wings 2

[KingBogo]

I think the smartest posters we have look at these things holistically. Basing opinions of players play off seasons and not game-by-game. One game doesn't change anyone's mind. But 20 games or half a season definitely will.

Love that Pionk is putting up huge numbers and has been good most games. Doesn't move the needle for me a lot for what to do with him the next 5 years. Yet.

Love that Connor is playing well and showing more effort defensively and part of a great PK. On top of leading the charge scoring for the best PP in the league 10 games in. When that's been maintained for 20 games or half a season I will absolutely look at him in a new light.

And nothing much has changed with Ehlers as he is doing what most thought he can do with full time top PP unit. The 5v5 stuff didn't change much from one game, but it's always nice to see our top line dominate.

This team is so similar in personnel and coaching system it really does feel to me like a continuation of last year. Every year is a new year, but I don't think of it that way when evaluating guys and forming an opinion. In my mind it's almost like game 98 of 2023-25

Looking like maybe the coaching transition to Arniel may be the right move at the right time. We can't keep up our torrid pace but if we keep getting better we are in for an amazing season.

Our PP play is far different and improved far beyond Ehlers. Much more movement by everyone.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Our PP play is far different and improved far beyond Ehlers. Much more movement by everyone.

I didn’t read that in the post. I read Ehlers is doing well on pp, but, he is a small part of a larger picture.

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

I only caught the 2nd period so I don't have much good to say...

Ouch.
The first period was where it was at... as Damone said in Fast Times at Ridgemont High:

"Three. Act like wherever you are is the place to be."

 

[Gm0ney]

Ouch.
The first period was where it was at... as Damone said in Fast Times at Ridgemont High:

"Three. Act like wherever you are is the place to be."

I did watch the extended highlights this morning. That top line was clicking.

Ben Chiarot's contract might be Exhibit A in the People of Detroit vs. the Yzerplan civil trial.

 

[Jet]

I just scrolled through to find the your positive, uplifting post about the game last night. It's strangely absent. That said, you were very quick to post in the last PGT about Stanley lol

You're exactly the type of poster I'm talking about. You give me shit about complaining about negative posters, but then complain about me doing so. Ironic

Haha true

 

[voyageur]

A long-standing issue is a long-standing issue regardless of W or L. Some of those may have gone away, at least temporarily. Maybe that's why we are winning. Others may be there just as much as before and we are winning in spite of them.

The Scheif/Connor pairing issue has gone away. It may come back at some point, in which case we will not be winning near as much. I hope it is gone for good. They have been outstanding so far and they are a big part of why we are winning.

The Stanley issue is still here. I'm not going to come into the PGT to bitch about it after a game like that. I just want to enjoy the win right now. Would you be happier if I was here complaining about it now?

What's the Stanley issue? Jets are 5-1 with Stanley, 4-0 with Fleury. Stanley has better goal differential and better penalty killing stats. So what's the issue? Some writer without any inside info, knowledge of the coaching systems or strategy, who never played in the show, has a beef?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

What's the Stanley issue? Jets are 5-1 with Stanley, 4-0 with Fleury. Stanley has better goal differential and better penalty killing stats. So what's the issue? Some writer without any inside info, knowledge of the coaching systems or strategy, who never played in the show, has a beef?

Oh come on. You know what the issue is. It goes back 8 years.

In general he has been a little better last year and this year. Only a little. Barely an NHL player when he is at his best. His play against TML was atrocious.

How good is his penalty killing when he is in the box? Fleury was clearly better in his 4 games.

What?????
Only fans who have played in the NHL are allowed to observe? To form opinions?

 

[Buffdog]

Oh come on. You know what the issue is. It goes back 8 years.

In general he has been a little better last year and this year. Only a little. Barely an NHL player when he is at his best. His play against TML was atrocious.

How good is his penalty killing when he is in the box? Fleury was clearly better in his 4 games.

What?????
Only fans who have played in the NHL are allowed to observe? To form opinions?

Nobody said that. But there's a reason that broadcast panels have former pros on them and not "Frank from Transcona". They have insights into the game at that level that can provide context that we aren't privy to

 

[Eyeseeing]

Nobody said that. But there's a reason that broadcast panels have former Scrubs on them and not "Frank from Transcona". They have insights into the game at that level that can provide context that we aren't privy to

I agree with you but some ex players have some HF worthy hot takes as well

 

[WolfHouse]

Hey 130+ posts... !!!

Of arguing about why fans dont post after wins hahaha

 

[Buffdog]

I agree with you but some ex players have some HF worthy hot takes as well

But they're informed hot takes lol

 

[WolfHouse]

Might be time to lock this one down if we are now implying Shane Hnidy has hockey insight...

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Nobody said that. But there's a reason that broadcast panels have former pros on them and not "Frank from Transcona". They have insights into the game at that level that can provide context that we aren't privy to

Sure sounded like that is what he was saying.

Just curious. What have the experts been saying about the Stanley trade up, draft, loyalty for the last 8 years?

 

[LucianoBorsato]

It shouldn't bother me that PGTs are quieter after wins than losses, but here we are

We scored 5v5
Top line won their matchup
Special teams were OK
Pionk played well

I guess there's just not much to bitch about, so people who don't know how to do anything else steer clear

It is what it is

Wife and I are making an effort to not be online as much (we've actually been watching movies again instead of staring at our phones all night), and they blocked this site at work. so both have definitely affected the amount I'm on here now. Doesn't surprise me if there are more posts after a loss, people are more negative in nature now.

 

[Buffdog]

Might be time to lock this one down if we are now implying Shane Hnidy has hockey insight...

Hnidy was one of the better colour guys we've had lol. Also a super nice guy. I skated with him when he was here

When I say "insight", it means into how the culture of an NHL team works. He's certainly more insightful about THAT than a random person. It provides a level of context that's otherwise lacking

 

[Inanna]

Guys, can you just put them back in your pants and quit arguing with each other?

Time to go put my Halloween costume on and transform myself into a woman of mystery, intrigue, and the coolest all red suit you can ever imagine.

Way more fun than who said what about which player when.

 

[Stumbledore]

Guys, can you just put them back in your pants and quit arguing with each other?

Time to go put my Halloween costume on and transform myself into a woman of mystery, intrigue, and the coolest all red suit you can ever imagine.

Way more fun than who said what about which player when.

Sounds like you're dressing up as Carmen Sandiego.

Says the guy with daughters and granddaughters.

 

[Flair Hay]

Good point, but we post after each game, not after 20 games or half a season. Or are you subtly suggesting some of us should post only 2-4 times a season?

Just highlighting what is going on in my head for my opinion and how I form it these days.

Only responding to a post about poster participation in W vs L. Not suggesting people shouldnt post often subtly, or at all! Just why I wouldn't come to the forums after a win to post "actually I was wrong things have changed" if that makes any sense? I'll stop ramblin lol

 

[Buffdog]

Just highlighting what is going on in my head for my opinion and how I form it these days.

Only responding to a post about poster participation in W vs L. Not suggesting people shouldnt post often subtly, or at all! Just why I wouldn't come to the forums after a win to post "actually I was wrong things have changed" if that makes any sense? I'll stop ramblin lol

So same as coming to a forum after a loss to say "see, I was right?"

You're making my point for me, thanks!

Lol

 

[GeorgeJETson]

Guys, can you just put them back in your pants and quit arguing with each other?

Time to go put my Halloween costume on and transform myself into a woman of mystery, intrigue, and the coolest all red suit you can ever imagine.

Way more fun than who said what about which player when.

Sounds like you're dressing up as Carmen Sandiego.

Says the guy with daughters and granddaughters.

Where In The World Is Inanna Sandiego?

 

[KingBogo]

Exactly what I said but yes

I guess I was just echoing your post.

 

[Flair Hay]

I guess I was just echoing your post.

All good I misunderstood I'll delete mine

So same as coming to a forum after a loss to say "see, I was right?"

You're making my point for me, thanks!

Lol

I know we agree on some stuff so if I'm making your point I'm good with that

 

[KingBogo]

All good I misunderstood I'll delete mine


I know we agree on some stuff so if I'm making your point I'm good with that

No need to delete. Post away.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Guys, can you just put them back in your pants and quit arguing with each other?

Time to go put my Halloween costume on and transform myself into a woman of mystery, intrigue, and the coolest all red suit you can ever imagine.

Way more fun than who said what about which player when.

Pictures of everyone’s costumes would make this thread more lively.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

Our PP play is far different and improved far beyond Ehlers. Much more movement by everyone.

Such a simple fix.