Post-Game Talk: Jets 6 - Rangers 3

Whileee

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Samberg was an absolute monster tonight the guy is heading into the stratosphere and becoming one of the best shutdown D in the league
Agree. Lots of commentators discuss the Jets' lack of "elite" talent, but Samberg is moving into elite territory as an anchor shutdown D. That gives the Jets strong anchors for the top 4 D with Morrissey and Samberg.
 

Whileee

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Bruce Boudreau explained the Jets success the best. He said they have been building a good team for the last few years and last year they were the 4th best in the NHL last year … they just had on bad week.
I also think the Jets disrupted their line-up (top 6) last season at the TDL and went away from their high paced pressure system. Monahan and Toffoli relegated Namestnikov and Perfetti and slowed the top 6. Chevy recently indicated that they realized they needed more speed in the lineup. Namestnikov and Perfetti play faster than Monahan and Toffoli and the 4th line with Kupari at C is a nightmare for teams that can't handle speed and pressure.
 

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Rasmus Kupari is the best Finn the Jets have ever had!

Jkjk - but man, did we absolutely bend over the LA Kings on that deal. I feel kind of bad for Gus Bus because I really thought he was rounding into a useful guy on the team, but Kupari is an everyday player now and I am starting to believe if he can put the puck in the net a little more he could be our solution at C. Size, speed, hands, tenacity, not afraid to go to the dirty areas. Developing his faceoff prowess - he should really compliment 2 wingers who like to shoot and have great shots.
 

SensibleGuy

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I mean I wanted to even when they lost to the Avalanche.

Did I say that out loud?


I was gonna say. Aren't we supposed to split up 55 and 81 because charts and graphs?

lol...I may be mistaken, but I don't believe we've gotten beyond round 1 of the playoffs yet this season. Things look great right now, and if our top line performed like last night a whole lot more over the past few seasons, the analytics guys wouldn't have been worried about them at all.
 

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I also think the Jets disrupted their line-up (top 6) last season at the TDL and went away from their high paced pressure system. Monahan and Toffoli relegated Namestnikov and Perfetti and slowed the top 6. Chevy recently indicated that they realized they needed more speed in the lineup. Namestnikov and Perfetti play faster than Monahan and Toffoli and the 4th line with Kupari at C is a nightmare for teams that can't handle speed and pressure.
A few of us oldtimers play faster than Monahan and, definitely, Toffoli.
They were "interesting" acquisitions, definitely contributing to the team's run of Ws at the end of the regular season but against the Avs in the playoffs...refer to my first sentence.
 
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Samberg was an absolute monster tonight the guy is heading into the stratosphere and becoming one of the best shutdown D in the league

Reminds me of those top Carolina D men over the past decade like Slavin and Pesce who didn’t put up the eye popping point totals but they are really impactful to team success.
 

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I also think the Jets disrupted their line-up (top 6) last season at the TDL and went away from their high paced pressure system. Monahan and Toffoli relegated Namestnikov and Perfetti and slowed the top 6. Chevy recently indicated that they realized they needed more speed in the lineup. Namestnikov and Perfetti play faster than Monahan and Toffoli and the 4th line with Kupari at C is a nightmare for teams that can't handle speed and pressure.
They disrupted the top 6? Weird way to say they fixed the power play. Monahan and Ehlers were 4th/5th in Jet scoring and Taffoli, Monahan and Ehlers had 7 goals each was tied for 3rd on the Jets. Let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves rewriting history.
 

Howard Chuck

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Rasmus Kupari is the best Finn the Jets have ever had!

Jkjk - but man, did we absolutely bend over the LA Kings on that deal. I feel kind of bad for Gus Bus because I really thought he was rounding into a useful guy on the team, but Kupari is an everyday player now and I am starting to believe if he can put the puck in the net a little more he could be our solution at C. Size, speed, hands, tenacity, not afraid to go to the dirty areas. Developing his faceoff prowess - he should really compliment 2 wingers who like to shoot and have great shots.
Another year of experience and some better wingers and I’ll bet he does well. All three are good for the 4th line, but I think there is still more to Kupari and Barron.
 

Jack7222

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I mean I wanted to even when they lost to the Avalanche.

Did I say that out loud?


I was gonna say. Aren't we supposed to split up 55 and 81 because charts and graphs?

Well what do you think the "charts and graphs" have to say right now?

If anything the silence is just proof that so-called "critics of CSV" or graph lovers or whatever are just people who look at what's actually happening and adjust their opinions accordingly.

It seems Arniel has a lot of buy-in from Scheif and Connor and has an awareness of what that line needs to do to be successful. I've always liked Connor's game more away from Scheif, and Connor now seems to be playing with a lot more of that swagger and d-zone effort, and less 'cute'. Seems to be driving play more, back checking more. Definitely very good signs.

Also like that Arniel has shown willingness to put ESV together when things aren't clicking. The fact that we've seen it a couple of times already this year for a few periods and we're 15-1 is super encouraging to me and shows the coach is aware of what's going on and has the sway and buy-in to make swaps.
 

surixon

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I'm starting to lose faith in Barron. I like his game but I really don't think he has the finishing instinct.

Either way he's a great 4th line and we need that.

Barron to me os what he is. He's a useful forechecking fourth line player that has enough speed and skill that he can individually create some looks for himself against soft comp from time to time. Imo he doesn't read well enough off his linemates to play up a lineup regularly. Iafallo on the other hand has that ability, which is why he can slot up if need be. I'm curious if Kupari has that ability as well.
 

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Also, I would like to welcome all of the new users to our board - I guess we really are a wagon.
Not exactly a newbie, as I regularly posted here in the past but I am attributing the great start to the season this year (and last year too!) to my sporadic posting. Yep, making myself scarce on HF Jets was the key to unlocking the best out of the team. :D:nod: GJG
 

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Yeah I think last year’s playoffs really took our eyes off what the team actually accomplished last season and the potential they held this season.

This team has an opportunity to start a new chapter (narrative) about who they are in the playoffs because last playoffs sadly was right on brand for who we are in that annual tournament format.

That being said we just had remembrance day, Winter hasn’t started, and playoffs aren’t for 5 months so right now I am enjoying the historic run because it’s starting to defy words. In my new , its all about the journey path, I have to say this is as good as it gets.
 

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