Post-Game Talk: Jets 4 - Sens 2

[AtomicJets]

Heinola was bad bad tonight. I don't really know any other way to spin it. I don't get how anyone could watch that game and come away with any other conclusion. I don't think we'll see him again for awhile.

 

[Snot Rocket]

Top line and Ehlers were v good. imo the Jets still could use some additional offensive oomph on the second line. Perfetti and Namestnikov are solid support guys, but think it could someone with a stronger offensive touch.

I thought Perfetti was playing really well and was dangerous. Once that kid puts it together and puts on more man size he might be scary.

 

[AlaskaJet]

This. Lol. I hope galley gets diarrhea tonight

He already has irritable vowel syndrome, even his consonants irritate me..

 

[Jets 31]

26-10-1 , 7-2-1 in our last 10 games, +46 goals for / against, best in the NHL,and we are 1st place in the entire league. Now those are numbers i love to see.....

 

[Cnile]

Ehlers with the assist of the year, very smart play.

Galley is horrible… he got his panties in a twist regarding the high stick by Vilardi, just short of demanding the death penalty it was odd for a broadcaster to be that passionate about a typical hockey play.
He just might be the worst announcer and that’s a low bar.
Jets woke up and beat a hot Ottawa club, hopefully we don’t sleep walk against the Preds

 

[Jets 31]

Ehlers with the assist of the year, very smart play.

Galley is horrible… he got his panties in a twist regarding the high stick by Vilardi, just short of demanding the death penalty it was odd for a broadcaster to be that passionate about a typical hockey play.
He just might be the worst announcer and that’s a low bar.
Jets woke up and beat a hot Ottawa club, hopefully we don’t sleep walk against the Preds

Galley is a goof but have no fear i still have a few coffee mugs left and i sent one to him with the Jets emblem on the outside.

 

[Cnile]

Galley is a goof but have no fear i still have a few coffee mugs left and i sent one to him with the Jets emblem on the outside.

It was bizarre how much he wanted the double minor, part of a parlay??
Then he pulls a McLean praising the Jets AFTER the game got away from the Sens.
Go away

 

[Jets 31]

You know what's kind of comical is hearing fans from other teams saying If the Jets didn't have Helly we would have won . Somehow having Helly is a bad thing but saying If the Oilers didn't have McJesus we would have won is a good thing. The Jets are not as good without Helly, well no shit he's one of our best players. And he's signed for a long time at a very reasonable contract, that's called having a good GM, unlike say the Rangers GM .

 

[KingBogo]

Sooooooo this Sheifele KFC Vilardi experiment is really payin off who would have thought?

I give a lot of credit to Arniel as a new for seeing what could be, not being stuck in what was under previous coaches. His comments tonight were pretty informative.

 

[Aggie204]

You know what's kind of comical is hearing fans from other teams saying If the Jets didn't have Helly we would have won . Somehow having Helly is a bad thing but saying If the Oilers didn't have McJesus we would have won is a good thing. The Jets are not as good without Helly, well no shit he's one of our best players. And he's signed for a long time at a very reasonable contract, that's called having a good GM, unlike say the Rangers GM .

It’s a tiring and lazy excuse. The goalie is part of the team, and he is our best and most consistent player. That’s what top 3 teams have on their roster, game breakers.

 

[Howard Chuck]

Ehlers with a 3 point night. The Jets really need to resign Nik, as he's the key player on the 2nd line, and also an important player on the powerplay. Without Ehlers on that 2nd line, what do you have ? If Ehlers wasn't in the lineup tonight, good chance we wouldn't have won that. Sign the man Chevy, his contract is up at seasons end.

IMO, Ehlers is the difference maker on the PP. I’d like to see the PP success rate with and without Ehlers in the lineup this year.

If I remember correctly, we had a killer PP until Ehlers went down, then everyone went stagnant and static again. Ehlers comes back plays his usual chaotic game and shakes the whole thing up, pulling the PK out of position.

He is incredibly valuable even if he doesn’t score or set up a beauty.

 

[Howard Chuck]

I thought Perfetti was playing really well and was dangerous. Once that kid puts it together and puts on more man size he might be scary.

Totally agree. He is doing everything but scoring at a high rate, and looks great doing it. Super smart and he is much faster as well.

26-10-1 , 7-2-1 in our last 10 games, +46 goals for / against, best in the NHL,and we are 1st place in the entire league. Now those are numbers i love to see.....

I’m really enjoying every minute of this. We haven’t seen a season like this in Winnipeg and who knows how long it will last.

Drink it in while we can.

 

[KingBogo]

IMO, Ehlers is the difference maker on the PP. I’d like to see the PP success rate with and without Ehlers in the lineup this year.

If I remember correctly, we had a killer PP until Ehlers went down, then everyone went stagnant and static again. Ehlers comes back plays his usual chaotic game and shakes the whole thing up, pulling the PK out of position.

He is incredibly valuable even if he doesn’t score or set up a beauty.

That’s easy enough to do. Go to Natural Stats Trick. Their line tool is near the bottom of the player options. Set to 5 on 4 and insert any combination of players you want to see how they do with each other. I use the tool all the time though mostly for 5 on 5 play.

 

[CorgisPer60]

There is a reason Stan is in bottom pairing an in line to make a million and pionk and Samberg are top 4 d. There is also another jet, Kupari, watching the guy Stan is already covering instead of watching back door, yet Stan is the only who gets blamed. Names doesn’t do anything meaningful on that sequence.

Aye, there's enough blame there for others. Names and DeMelo are covering point options. Kupari is in no man's land, was covering no options, and was just kind of floating. No one recognised the developing play. Oh well. I'm over it now. Jets won, and looked like a team that deserved the win.

 

[Jet]

It was really great seeing the second line (read: Ehlers) step up to have a pivotal role in a come from behind win. We're going to need more of that from him and the other two down the stretch and especially in the playoffs, we can't expect the first line to do all the scoring.

If Ehlers can show effectiveness and production when the games really matter, I'll be on the sign him at almost any cost team.

Last night was a perfect example of the impossible standard Stanley is now being held to. He had himself a really solid game, moving the puck well, solid defending. However some are so desperate to support their belief that he's just bad that they're blaming him from stopping a play on the pk from an elite forward. A play that defensemen have failed to stop, oh, a million times.

"He should have gotten down to block the pass"
Guaranteed if he did that and stutzle went around the top it would have been "why did Stanley go down, there?"

"Stanley should have covered two men!"
Yeah, ok.

Depending on the player, it's either a terrible play, or an excuse is made (e.g. if it was Heinola)

If Stan plays like that every night, I have no problem at all with him being our bottom pair LD.

As a matter of fact, I'm gonna stan for Stan.

 

[CorgisPer60]

Great comeback.
Samberg can't get back soon enough.
Stanley trying to box out Tkachuk while tracking the puck back into our zone was hilarious.
Stan gets around the goal line with the puck behind the net and stops to hold off his man and Brady just skates past him. We had some successful box outs leading up to that so it felt like the tall guy figured it was his time to do the same.
The result was not what we would want.

Always nice to win on a Saturday night and at home.

I aso thought that was f***ing funny. There was a time when one of our big man defencemen would have just taken him right into the boards and buried him there while also not taking a penalty. I don't think I've seen a big defenseman be so scared to use his own size effectively.

 

[Howard Chuck]

That’s easy enough to do. Go to Natural Stats Trick. Their line tool is near the bottom of the player options. Set to 5 on 4 and insert any combination of players you want to see how they do with each other. I use the tool all the time though mostly for 5 on 5 play.

Thanks. Doesn’t seem to work on my phone. I’ll try On my laptop later.

 

[bustamente]

The Heinola discussion will be put on hold when Samberg gets back, the Stanley debate will rage on.

 

[Howard Chuck]

It was really great seeing the second line (read: Ehlers) step up to have a pivotal role in a come from behind win. We're going to need more of that from him and the other two down the stretch and especially in the playoffs, we can't expect the first line to do all the scoring.

If Ehlers can show effectiveness and production when the games really matter, I'll be on the sign him at almost any cost team.

Last night was a perfect example of the impossible standard Stanley is now being held to. He had himself a really solid game, moving the puck well, solid defending. However some are so desperate to support their belief that he's just bad that they're blaming him from stopping a play on the pk from an elite forward. A play that defensemen have failed to stop, oh, a million times.

"He should have gotten down to block the pass"
Guaranteed if he did that and stutzle went around the top it would have been "why did Stanley go down, there?"

"Stanley should have covered two men!"
Yeah, ok.

Depending on the player, it's either a terrible play, or an excuse is made (e.g. if it was Heinola)

If Stan plays like that every night, I have no problem at all with him being our bottom pair LD.

As a matter of fact, I'm gonna stan for Stan.

I have high hopes for Heinola, but I’m not so biased as to disagree with you. Way too much being made of his (edit:Stan’s) play on that goal. He played fine overall last night.

 

[Adam da bomb]

IMO, Ehlers is the difference maker on the PP. I’d like to see the PP success rate with and without Ehlers in the lineup this year.

If I remember correctly, we had a killer PP until Ehlers went down, then everyone went stagnant and static again. Ehlers comes back plays his usual chaotic game and shakes the whole thing up, pulling the PK out of position.

He is incredibly valuable even if he doesn’t score or set up a beauty.

I’d like to see how pp operates if you take away any one piece. What does pp look like without villardi, schief, Connor, mo. Hopefully you won’t and everyone else stay healthy.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

Yet Stan got an assist and Heinola didn’t.

I remember that assist: passed it to Ehlers while in his zone and it was Ehlers who skated up the ice and scored

 

[Adam da bomb]

I remember that assist: passed it to Ehlers while in his zone and it was Ehlers who skated up the ice and scored

Great break out pass. Give it to ehlers and let ehlers do all the work. It was a nice break out pass.
If Heinola had done that we would have gone nuts around here.

 

[Jet]

I have high hopes for Heinola, but I’m not so biased as to disagree with you. Way too much being made of his (edit:Stan’s) play on that goal. He played fine overall last night.

I'm definitely rooting for Ville as well. I think it's kind of insane to be actively hoping against a player in our org. We're better when our prospects/ players maximize their potential.

Unfortunately for Heinola we're trying to get the best team possible together in the very short term, which gives him a limited window to show that he should be that player. Right now, Stanley is a better defenseman than him - which doesn't mean Ville won't overtake him but he has a very short window of opportunity to do that.

 

[Adam da bomb]

I'm definitely rooting for Ville as well. I think it's kind of insane to be actively hoping against a player in our org. We're better when our prospects/ players maximize their potential.

Unfortunately for Heinola we're trying to get the best team possible together in the very short term, which gives him a limited window to show that he should be that player. Right now, Stanley is a better defenseman than him - which doesn't mean Ville won't overtake him but he has a very short window of opportunity to do that.

I’m fine with whoever they run in that 3rd. I’m often in the Stan booster club and showing him unfavourably against Heinola not because I have a preference, but, because of the anti-Stan sentiment around here.

 

[Jet]

I’m fine with whoever they run in that 3rd. I’m often in the Stan booster club and showing him unfavourably against Heinola not because I have a preference, but, because of the anti-Stan sentiment around here.

I try to be as unbiased as possible - I am a fan of every Jet even if they piss me off

I hate getting roped into the this player or that player argument. The Connor Ehlers battle has eased thank God, but that one really pissed me off. Some were bashing probably the best LW this team has ever had and because I defended him I became an Ehlers hater somehow.

I think no player should be immune from criticism, but when it becomes a pile on hatefest that's where I tend to defend the player.