Post-Game Talk: Jets 3 - Kraken 2 in OT

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[surixon]

I feel like Seattle is a better team than their record, they always play the Jets hard. Maybe it's coaching with them, but that's a team I had as a playoff team.

Like the way the Jets stuck with it. Samberg's value goes up every game, but I did notice the right side didn't generate much offense without Pionk.

Great game by Perfetti, he's getting better each game now. Great game by the 4th line again.

Am I the only guy besides Sip a little disappointed in Appleton game after game. I know he's the veteran and he's earned his spot but I do wonder if Kupari would generate more offense with his skating.

Nice to see the team in front of Eric Comrie starting to win some games for him.

Keep everyone in the rear view mirror in this season to remember.

You aren't the only one dissapointed with his game. He's been a black hole on offense on his line lately.

 

[Mooche]

Mentioned this during the GDT, bump Apples to the PB for a few games, Tanev to the 3rd line and Rasmus centering the 4th, probably never happens though

We were chatting about this in the GDT, busta, and I really would love to see this look for a game or two -- even though I know it's likely not going to happen.

Nino - Lowry - Tanev
Barron - Kupari - Iafallo

I really think that's the bottom six optimized right now with the options at their disposal. I love getting the flexibility on the 4th line too with the Cs in Kupari/Barron, who in the case of Barron, has looked really good stepping in the middle when called upon here down the stretch.

Plus, there is speed to burn on all of those lines and guys who can just be complete headaches on the forecheck.

I know this is likely not taking place, but if Apples isn't providing any offense, meh.

 

[kanadalainen]

Ahlpples has to sit, he does nothing

He's got to be dinged up.

 

[Jet]

Comrie started but was taken out for concussion protocol. Helle took over while they evaluated him but Comrie was fine and came back to play the rest of the game. Helle only had to play about 10 mins.

Thank you! I panicked when I saw Helle in the beginning of the highlights and then Comrie.

 

[voyageur]

You aren't the only one dissapointed with his game. He's been a black hole on offense on his line lately.

I don't think he can score the way he is playing. He's never been a strong shooter and he doesn't get to the net all that much on that line. He's the high ice forward. Last night's 2nd goal went right past him as he seemed to be the guy who was in the support position for Miller but got caught coasting.

I think that's got to be a tough one for Scotty. 4th line is really playing well. Controlling zone time and getting some high danger chances. 3rd line can't score. Lowry is working hard but whatever was working early in the season isn't working now. Appleton is still I imagine a popular player in the room. He's been here since 2019. With 3/4 of a year in Seattle.

I still would like to see Kupari in that spot for 1 game to see if he makes a difference. Gives a secondary faceoff guy to the lineup. And more speed. Might light a fire under Appleton knowing his job is not guaranteed going into the playoffs.

 

[Weezeric]

We were chatting about this in the GDT, busta, and I really would love to see this look for a game or two -- even though I know it's likely not going to happen.

Nino - Lowry - Tanev
Barron - Kupari - Iafallo

I really think that's the bottom six optimized right now with the options at their disposal. I love getting the flexibility on the 4th line too with the Cs in Kupari/Barron, who in the case of Barron, has looked really good stepping in the middle when called upon here down the stretch.

Plus, there is speed to burn on all of those lines and guys who can just be complete headaches on the forecheck.

I know this is likely not taking place, but if Apples isn't providing any offense, meh.

Why does only Appleton get blamed for a lack of offence when Nino has only 4 5v5 points in the last 25 games?

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

Why does only Appleton get blamed for a lack of offence when Nino has only 4 5v5 points in the last 25 games?

Every game I say it's going to be Nino's night.
He's going to break out with a 2 goal game... tumbleweeds...
Those 9 goals by Nino in Oct/Nov were part of what made the Jets so unstoppable.

 

[DRW204]

Every game I say it's going to be Nino's night.
He's going to break out with a 2 goal game... tumbleweeds...
Those 9 goals by Nino in Oct/Nov were part of what made the Jets so unstoppable.

Yup nino has been more of the disappointment or underperforming a bit in my view

 

[raideralex99]

I don't think he can score the way he is playing. He's never been a strong shooter and he doesn't get to the net all that much on that line. He's the high ice forward. Last night's 2nd goal went right past him as he seemed to be the guy who was in the support position for Miller but got caught coasting.

I think that's got to be a tough one for Scotty. 4th line is really playing well. Controlling zone time and getting some high danger chances. 3rd line can't score. Lowry is working hard but whatever was working early in the season isn't working now. Appleton is still I imagine a popular player in the room. He's been here since 2019. With 3/4 of a year in Seattle.

I still would like to see Kupari in that spot for 1 game to see

if he makes a difference. Gives a secondary faceoff guy to the lineup. And more speed. Might light a fire under Appleton knowing his job is not guaranteed going into the playoffs.

You can't blame Appleton on that goal he was on the opposite side of the play when Montour made the pass from blueline to blueline. Appleton was at center ice when Eyssimont got the puck and went around Miller. Appleton closed the gap which maybe it looked like it was his man but you can't blame him.
Pick anyone ... Bad line change ... Miller got beat ... good shot Eyssimont ... bad play Cormie but don't blame Appleton.
I agree the 3rd line has been the weakest line on the Jets lately especially Nino and Appleton but I'll wait for the playoffs to see if they up their game. Game 1 of the playoffs the last 2 seasons they were the best line that got the Jets wins.
Appleton is the one at center ice.

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

We were chatting about this in the GDT, busta, and I really would love to see this look for a game or two -- even though I know it's likely not going to happen.

Nino - Lowry - Tanev
Barron - Kupari - Iafallo

I really think that's the bottom six optimized right now with the options at their disposal. I love getting the flexibility on the 4th line too with the Cs in Kupari/Barron, who in the case of Barron, has looked really good stepping in the middle when called upon here down the stretch.

Plus, there is speed to burn on all of those lines and guys who can just be complete headaches on the forecheck.

I know this is likely not taking place, but if Apples isn't providing any offense, meh.

I've been wondering what our 4th line looks like once Kupari is back and everyone is healthy.
Tanev and Kupari together could be very interesting on a line because that is crazy speed.
I think Kupari is a similar blackhole for offence that Appleton is BUT... Apples has had a way longer leash.
Rasmus may still find another level (to more typical 4th line offence).

Appleton defends and forechecks well so he is trusted and that goes a long way.
I'm not sure I see them choosing to sit him without an injury.

Barron at C is good and I don't see Iafallo or Tanev sitting so I think Kupari is likely the odd man out (with Gus).
I'm sure the coaches really value Barron's combo of size and speed/skating.
The fact that he can play C on the 4th is awesome because it prevents them from having to choose to sit one of Barron/Tanev/Iafallo

 

[Jet]

Why does only Appleton get blamed for a lack of offence when Nino has only 4 5v5 points in the last 25 games?

I think it's because Nino is still getting his looks and getting to the net. Appleton doesnt seem to be doing much of anyting, offensively speaking

 

[surixon]

I don't think he can score the way he is playing. He's never been a strong shooter and he doesn't get to the net all that much on that line. He's the high ice forward. Last night's 2nd goal went right past him as he seemed to be the guy who was in the support position for Miller but got caught coasting.

I think that's got to be a tough one for Scotty. 4th line is really playing well. Controlling zone time and getting some high danger chances. 3rd line can't score. Lowry is working hard but whatever was working early in the season isn't working now. Appleton is still I imagine a popular player in the room. He's been here since 2019. With 3/4 of a year in Seattle.

I still would like to see Kupari in that spot for 1 game to see if he makes a difference. Gives a secondary faceoff guy to the lineup. And more speed. Might light a fire under Appleton knowing his job is not guaranteed going into the playoffs.

Yeah that is the conundrum. We have three lines going right now. Tanev has really helped elevate the fourth line from what I'd call a minor weakness to strength since he got here. I don't really want to mess with that and at his age he's likely in a role that is perfect for him.

I was checking the shot maps and you are correct Appelton is rarely in the slot this year whereas Nino is there all the time. I'd peg Nino as just going through a slump and if he keeps getting to the slot/net front they will start to go in. But if Appelton keeps shooting from 20 to 30 feet out he's not going to start scoring. I'd also say that lines defensive play isn't where it needs to be either.

I wouldn't have an issue putting Gus or Kuparo in for a couple of games to see if they can bring anything different to the table.

 

[surixon]

You can't blame Appleton on that goal he was on the opposite side of the play when Montour made the pass from blueline to blueline. Appleton was at center ice when Eyssimont got the puck and when around Miller. Appleton closed the gap which maybe it looked like it was his man but you can't blame him.
Pick anyone ... Bad line change ... Miller got beat ... good shot Eyssimont ... bad play Cormie but don't blame Appleton.
I agree the 3rd line has been the weakest line on the Jets lately especially Nino and Appleton but I'll wait for the playoffs to see if they up their game. Game 1 of the playoffs the last 2 seasons they were the best line that got the Jets wins.

Yeah, I originally thought it was Appelton that got dangled but upon replay it was Miller that got burnt.

 

[raideralex99]

I'm so happy for Perfetti ... he got a penalty which was weak and should not have been called since it was Montour who grabbed his stick and the Kraken scored on the PP. Perfetti got that one back at the end of the period and set up a beauty for Samberg to win in OT.
Anyone else noticing lately more and more players are clamping down on opposing players sticks if the stick is under their arm close to their body?

 

[surixon]

I'm so happy for Perfetti ... he got a penalty which was weak and should not have been called since it was Montour who grabbed his stick and the Kraken scored on the PP. Perfetti got that one back at the end of the period and set up a beauty for Samberg to win in OT.
Anyone else noticing lately more and more players are clamping down on opposing players sticks if the stick is under their arm close to their body?

Yeah, a vet knowing he can get away with it on this instance.

 

[Buffdog]

I've been wondering what our 4th line looks like once Kupari is back and everyone is healthy.
Tanev and Kupari together could be very interesting on a line because that is crazy speed.
I think Kupari is a similar blackhole for offence that Appleton is BUT... Apples has had a way longer leash.
Rasmus may still find another level (to more typical 4th line offence).

Appleton defends and forechecks well so he is trusted and that goes a long way.
I'm not sure I see them choosing to sit him without an injury.

Barron at C is good and I don't see Iafallo or Tanev sitting so I think Kupari is likely the odd man out (with Gus).
I'm sure the coaches really value Barron's combo of size and speed/skating.
The fact that he can play C on the 4th is awesome because it prevents them from having to choose to sit one of Barron/Tanev/Iafallo

I'd like to see:

Nino Lowry Iafallo
Barron Kupari Tanev

Sorry Apples, but it's worth trying

 

[raideralex99]

I can watch this all day long ... the future looks bright for the Jets. Chevy better have 8 years written in their contracts this summer.

 

[kanadalainen]

Pick anyone ... Bad line change ... Miller got beat ... good shot Eyssimont ... bad play Cormie but don't blame Appleton.
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I may be mistaken but I think Helly gave up that Essiymont goal.

 

[voyageur]

You can't blame Appleton on that goal he was on the opposite side of the play when Montour made the pass from blueline to blueline. Appleton was at center ice when Eyssimont got the puck and when around Miller. Appleton closed the gap which maybe it looked like it was his man but you can't blame him.
Pick anyone ... Bad line change ... Miller got beat ... good shot Eyssimont ... bad play Cormie but don't blame Appleton.
I agree the 3rd line has been the weakest line on the Jets lately especially Nino and Appleton but I'll wait for the playoffs to see if they up their game. Game 1 of the playoffs the last 2 seasons they were the best line that got the Jets wins.
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I don't know. When you watch the replay the Seattle forward closest to Appleton creates instant separation driving hard to the net after that pass . So it does seem like he is coasting. He's the freshest Jets forward on the ice. As you can see 7 and 91 changing and Seattle also changing on the fly.

If he's deeper in that play it's a 2 on 3. With the Jets forwards coming off the bench in a better position to defend.

Seems like the kind of plays Perfetti would bail Stan out on. Also not a great play by Miller but Eyssimont has the juice against the Jets.

Regardless the team bounced back.

Still concerning 3rd line is not winning enough matchups of late.

 

[raideralex99]

I may be mistaken but I think Helly gave up that Essiymont goal.

Helly was in for the first goal the PP one.

 

[kanadalainen]

Helly was in for the first goal the PP one.

Thanks!

 

[Mooche]

Why does only Appleton get blamed for a lack of offence when Nino has only 4 5v5 points in the last 25 games?

Posted in the GDTs for the last while the team needs more from Nino. Lowry has been doing a lot of heavy lifting on that third line. They need to be much more effective as a trio considering the minutes they garner every game.

Nino plays a heavy game and has an edge that comes through nightly. That doesn't always translate to the scoresheet but he does need to come through offensively, I do agree. As @Jet said, he is getting prime looks by going to the dirty areas and has been streaky in the past. I hope the streak starts when the games really matter again for him.

It's not a matter of "blaming" anybody, and it's likely not going to happen anyways as I prefaced, but yeah I would take out Appleton over Nino if that's the choice on the table.

 

[Howard Chuck]

I can watch this all day long ... the future looks bright for the Jets. Chevy better have 8 years written in their contracts this summer.
Sorry no pick ... the Kraken player lost position on Perfetti the pick made no difference.

So much great about that play. Not only Perfetti's instincts, but Samberg immediately sees what is about to happen and rushes to the rights spot. Samberg's HIQ there was elite imo.

 

[tarozi]

Between Connor and Scheifele and Morrissey and Ehlers and Perfetti and even Namestnikov, are there any other teams in the NHL that have as many excellent puck handlers that the Jets do?

I wouldn't put Ehlers in the puck handling group. He's more speed than hands. Iafollo is hands