Prospect Info: Jesse Kiiskinen -RW

[Go Wings]

He's probably the third best winger in the system behind Mazur and Buchelnikov.

That says more about our lack of depth at wing then him

 

[norrisnick]

This Kiiskinen <> Gibson trade had nothing to do with Walman.

It was just a prospect swap.

Think Kiiskinen was 2nd youngest and played 2nd most games (38 games) of Liiga-rookies. Pelicans was just strong team where could not fit to scoring role. Situation at HPK could totally change this next year.

But good indicator is that rare 18-year old is that good defensively, to be used at Bottom6 role.

Only Emil Hemming, 2024 draftee, was younger than Kiiskinen, played 40 games, scored 1 point more.

Pure coincidence that the 2nd round pick involved in the trade was used about an hour later in the Walman transaction...

[Insert Baghdad Bob pic here]

 

[Henkka]

Pure coincidence that the 2nd round pick involved in the trade was used about an hour later in the Walman transaction...

Yeah, he could have used Red Wings own 2nd.

But this time it went different.

Multiple negotiations happening at same time - amazing.

GMs doing their work.

 

[Henkka]

Kiiskinen just scored his 6th goal of the season from a breakaway.

He has now 6+8=14 points in 16 games.

First 8 games:
0+3 = 3 points

Then their young head coach did get fired and experienced Mikko Manner took the change.

Last 8 games for Kiiskinen:
6+5=11 points.

 

[lhsgolf19]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1848750788442554808

BTW... Andrew Gibson, 2 points in 10 games for Soo this year ha

 

[JediOrderPizza]

Alright, those net ads are absolutely disgusting.

Now gonna have nightmares seeing Priority ad behind Cossa.

 

[lilidk]

Alright, those net ads are absolutely disgusting.

Now gonna have nightmares seeing Priority ad behind Cossa.

It's meter of time until all this B's in NHL

 

[SCD]

Tough to judge on one clip, but like the acceleration.

 

[raymond23]

Pretty intriguing player, just turned 19 and close to ppg / leading his team in scoring in Lliga

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1848750788442554808

BTW... Andrew Gibson, 2 points in 10 games for Soo this year ha

Great wheels here. He looks taller than 6'0" as well.

Do we have a diamond in the rough with this kid? I can't say I've watched Liiga nearly as much as SHL.

 

[ShanahanMan]

How funny would that be if our one late round draft pick that ends up being an NHL player is one we traded for.

 

[The Zermanator]

I'm curious, if Kiiskinen ends up a valuable player where Gibson isn't, are people still going to be crying about 'throwing away a 2nd rd pick' in dumping Walman? Who am I kidding, of course they will.

But from what I can tell, so far it looks like Yzerman upgraded a prospect and got paid to do it, and he used that excess value to move on from Walman no strings attached. Pretty shrewd piece of business IMO.

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Wow, that's some crazy acceleration.

According to Eliteprospects, Kiiskinen is 16th in Liiga scoring. Not too bad at all for a 19 year old 3rd rounder.

 

[Henkka]

I'm curious, if Kiiskinen ends up a valuable player where Gibson isn't, are people still going to be crying about 'throwing away a 2nd rd pick' in dumping Walman? Who am I kidding, of course they will.

But from what I can tell, so far it looks like Yzerman upgraded a prospect and got paid to do it, and he used that excess value to move on from Walman no strings attached. Pretty shrewd piece of business IMO.

It's very interesting, how Yzerman forced Trotz to overpay a 2nd in this situation.

And on that time, we really had somewaht bad balance on prospects, not too many forwards, heavily defence.

 

[izlez]

Tough to judge on one clip, but like the acceleration.

Great wheels here. He looks taller than 6'0" as well.

Wow, that's some crazy acceleration.

Every time I play this video it is very clearly playing at an accelerated speed. Is it like that for everyone? And are you guys factoring that into your judgements on his speed/acceleration?

 

[Murmansk16A]

Every time I play this video it is very clearly playing at an accelerated speed. Is it like that for everyone? And are you guys factoring that into your judgements on his speed/acceleration?

Whatever speed the video is playing, he is clearly pulling away from the defenders.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Every time I play this video it is very clearly playing at an accelerated speed. Is it like that for everyone? And are you guys factoring that into your judgements on his speed/acceleration?

This is from his draft year. The kid clearly looks pretty fast.

 

[izlez]

Whatever speed the video is playing, he is clearly pulling away from the defenders.

This is from his draft year. The kid clearly looks pretty fast.

Yeah, I'm not trying to make a big deal out of it or even say you're wrong... its just funny seeing a video playing at 1.5X speed and several comments saying he looks fast

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Every time I play this video it is very clearly playing at an accelerated speed. Is it like that for everyone? And are you guys factoring that into your judgements on his speed/acceleration?

If this kid can skate in fast forward, that sounds great.

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

I'm curious, if Kiiskinen ends up a valuable player where Gibson isn't, are people still going to be crying about 'throwing away a 2nd rd pick' in dumping Walman? Who am I kidding, of course they will.

But from what I can tell, so far it looks like Yzerman upgraded a prospect and got paid to do it, and he used that excess value to move on from Walman no strings attached. Pretty shrewd piece of business IMO.

I am one of those whiners and the answer is yes and no.

If Kiiskinen becomes a big time player, then wonderful and yes it would take a ton of sting out of the trade.

But getting a high energy winger with some scoring touch isn't as difficult as finding good RHD. I wouldn't totally judge Gibson on point total alone, he is a quality prospect still, and I would bet dollars to donuts that the Wings would take him back if he was being given away.

 

[newfy]

Im a Gibson fan but Kiiskinen is helping me forget all about him with this start. Can't wait to see him at the world juniors and really judge him against top junior talent.

 

[SantosHalper]

Can't wait to see him at the world juniors and really judge him against top junior talent.

Pretty much locked in 3rd line at least

Best case scenario for Finland
Tuomas Uronen - Konsta Helenius - Kasper Halttunen
Jesse Nurmi - Rasmus Kumpulainen - Emil Hemming
Benjamin Rautiainen - Topias Hynninen - Jesse Kiiskinen
Emil Kuusla - Tom Leppä - Onni Lind

But since Helenius and Halttunen play in AHL, their teams might stop their trip. Then Kiiskinen would get promoted to 2nd line.