Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII- Swayman's agent basically calls Cam a liar

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smithformeragent

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We have numerous deletions and more in here. We know tension and emotions are high.
But you folks must simply stop taking personal shots at each. Stay to topic.

If not we will be left with no choice other than adding thread bans.


BOSTON — Boston Bruins president Cam Neely suggested Monday that the team has made an eight-year offer to unsigned restricted free agent goaltender Jeremy Swayman at $8 million annually.

“I don’t want to get into the weeds with what his ask is,” Neely said at a news conference at TD Garden. “But I know that I have 64 million reasons why I’d be playing right now.”

Neely did not disclose what Swayman’s ask has been but said he was surprised by it.

So far, Swayman is holding firm to his demand. It aligns with his personality of not backing down, especially following his uncomfortable 2023 arbitration hearing. According to Neely, Swayman wants to set a new market for goalies, specifically ones under team control.

“What his ask is and what we believe his comp group is,” Neely said, “are two different things.”

General manager Don Sweeney said he remains in contact with Lewis Gross, Swayman’s agent. The Bruins are not interested in trading Swayman.

“Ultimately, we’re a better team, as I’ve said all along, if Jeremy is part of our hockey club,” Sweeney said. “That’s my intention. That’s my wish. I’ll continue to work to do that. I think Jeremy and the team are both hurt in this regard. That’s what I’ll do. I’ll continue to work hard to find a settling point.”

With only three preseason games left, it is likely Swayman will miss regular-season time, even if an agreement is pending. Coach Jim Montgomery designated Joonas Korpisalo as his goalie for the regular-season opener against the Florida Panthers on Oct. 8, regardless of Swayman’s situation. The Bruins have two full practices remaining in camp.

“Where we are in camp right now, with how well camp has gone and how well Korpisalo has done,” Montgomery said, “right now, he’s going to be our Game 1 starter.”

How good is the offer?​

Swayman would become the fifth-highest-paid goalie in the NHL under the Bruins’ offer, behind Sergei Bobrovsky, Andrei Vasilevskiy, Connor Hellebuyck and Ilya Sorokin. Only Vasilevskiy ($9.5 million average annual value) signed his contract as a pending restricted free agent. The others were due to become unrestricted.

It is a significant payday for Swayman, considering he has never been a regular-season No. 1 goalie.

 
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Ullmark tried doing that and the team said "F U we don't want you. In fact, we're going to trade you right now before you can stop us, even though you say you want to stay with the team."

That's the kind of loyalty this front office has.
Where are you guys getting all these killer quotes from the team? Link me up!
 

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I really do wonder if the Sens would accept a trade straight up for Ullmark?

The Sens get the much better deal long term, if they want to pay him, and the Bruins get their goalie for the next half decade.
Sens don't have the cap space so not an option. Plus, we really like having Ullmark here. For once, it's not Ottawa dealing with a lot of drama.
 
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I don't know. Did Cam also shout out how the pay would be structured in each year? You know, there's a reason why contracts on paper and why snide flippant remarks at self-serving press conferences aren't considered binding offers.

But I'm not shocked Neely doesn't know that.
Like you I'm not privy to that information.
But with that said ...
Swayman's camp could say 8 x 8 is good we have an agreement in principle. Then it just becomes a matter of working out the details. It would really help having a simple yes or no. And yes, it is really that simple. Agree then work out the details.
 
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Ullmark tried doing that and the team said "F U we don't want you. In fact, we're going to trade you right now before you can stop us, even though you say you want to stay with the team."

That's the kind of loyalty this front office has.

Well this goalie tandum hasn't done anything in the playoffs but win a round in 2 years. Funny how they expect the red carpet rolled out for them
 

DiggityDog

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Exactly

Never said it wasn't. In fact, I've said it repeatedly. But don't say a player isn't loyal when we all know that teams aren't loyal either.
Again it’s a business, a transaction. I pay you to play well and put asses in seats so I can make more money.

The Bruins showed loyalty to Bergeron and Krejci by giving them a last dance and mortgaged their future in the process. That is what loyalty often gets you.

The Bruins don’t owe any of these guys anything outside of what is in their contract. The players don’t owe the team anything outside of what is in their contract.
 

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Agreed. I expect better results with Korpi and Bussi/Patera
Still waiting for a link on those killer quotes, my dude. I don’t have all night.

Or did you just lie about what was said? I know you wouldn’t do that. Since you’re so mad that Neely lied.

Right?
 
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Better resume? Where? More games, sure. Better resume? Nah. Sway has a better winning%, better GAA, and better sv%. Other than you know all of that, Saros is better, if you say so.
Well for starters he's proven he can play 60+ games. He's put up similar numbers, doing so playing on a mid tier team.

He's also paid his dues something Swayman hasn't done. He wants to be paid more than better goalies than he .
 

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Better resume? Where? More games, sure. Better resume? Nah. Sway has a better winning%, better GAA, and better sv%. Other than you know all of that, Saros is better, if you say so.
A poster mentioned Sway has a pathetic (not his words) danger area save%

That tells me he's as good as the 5 guys on the ice, When they breakdown and allow a shooter to be in for a high danger opportunity Sway shits his pads.

This is why I believe Korpo will be a much better goalie in Boston with the basic saves being handled routinely , the question to me is can he be better than Sway in the high danger areas saves?
 

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Well for starters he's proven he can play 60+ games. He's put up similar numbers, doing so playing on a mid tier team.

He's also paid his dues something Swayman hasn't done. He wants to be paid more than better goalies than he .
But you said better. And when I pointed out that was not true, you changed the argument to similar numbers and qualified it.

You know what is interesting though? Through age 25 the most games Saros started was 35. Swayman has already started more games than that at the same age. And the only reason Sway didn’t start more is because they had another top notch tender in Ullmark. That was a strength so why wouldn’t you use it? But to hold that against a guy is silly.
 

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A poster mentioned Sway has a pathetic (not his words) danger area save%

That tells me he's as good as the 5 guys on the ice
, When they breakdown and allow a shooter to be in for a high danger opportunity Sway shits his pads.

This is why I believe Korpo will be a much better goalie in Boston with the basic saves being handled routinely , the question to me is can he be better than Sway in the high danger areas saves?

You mean the poster who was refuted with this data?

Over the past 2 years, among the 32 goalies with the most TOI (basically a list of assumed starters), he's 4th in 5-on-5 HDSV%. Looking at just last year (same 32 goalie filter), he was 11th. I'm not sure how either of those suggests his HDSV% stinks.
 
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A poster mentioned Sway has a pathetic (not his words) danger area save%

That tells me he's as good as the 5 guys on the ice, When they breakdown and allow a shooter to be in for a high danger opportunity Sway shits his pads.

This is why I believe Korpo will be a much better goalie in Boston with the basic saves being handled routinely , the question to me is can he be better than Sway in the high danger areas saves?

To me it's who can make the big saves in key moments and can see the puck through screens and traffic . Most goalies cans save low percentage shots. Soft goals can kill a team and deflate momentum..
 
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LSCII

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A poster mentioned Sway has a pathetic (not his words) danger area save%

That tells me he's as good as the 5 guys on the ice, When they breakdown and allow a shooter to be in for a high danger opportunity Sway shits his pads.

This is why I believe Korpo will be a much better goalie in Boston with the basic saves being handled routinely , the question to me is can he be better than Sway in the high danger areas saves?
When you have a belief you search for any stat that will “prove” your claim. If it wasn’t high danger save% it would have been second chance scoring chances or rebound control, or whatever argument fit the need.
 

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