Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII - agreed to 8 x 8.25 aav

[smithformeragent]

One could make the argument that we're beating a dead horse here.

So be it. Discuss, if you so choose. We'll keep all the Swayman talk contained to this thread.

If you have nothing meaningful to contribute to the conversation, move along.

We will not have this devolve into thread hijacking and flaming of other posters.

@Gee Wally

We have numerous deletions and more in here. We know tension and emotions are high.
But you folks must simply stop taking personal shots at each. Stay to topic.

If not we will be left with no choice other than adding thread bans.

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[Grimey]

Ullmark tried doing that and the team said "F U we don't want you. In fact, we're going to trade you right now before you can stop us, even though you say you want to stay with the team."

That's the kind of loyalty this front office has.

Where are you guys getting all these killer quotes from the team? Link me up!

 

[LiseL]

I really do wonder if the Sens would accept a trade straight up for Ullmark?

The Sens get the much better deal long term, if they want to pay him, and the Bruins get their goalie for the next half decade.

Sens don't have the cap space so not an option. Plus, we really like having Ullmark here. For once, it's not Ottawa dealing with a lot of drama.

 

[KrejciMVP]

.2 or .4 million here or there. Sounds worth it to alienate a fanbase like Boston. Do your thing sway. Clown show

 

[Grimey]

And alienate your employees to their peers and the public.

After being slandered by said employee.

 

[Over the volcano]

What do you call him inferring they offered a number that they clearly didn’t? You think he “owned” that too?

Both sides know that 8x8 would have it be done.

 

[JAD]

I don't know. Did Cam also shout out how the pay would be structured in each year? You know, there's a reason why contracts on paper and why snide flippant remarks at self-serving press conferences aren't considered binding offers.

But I'm not shocked Neely doesn't know that.

Like you I'm not privy to that information.
But with that said ...
Swayman's camp could say 8 x 8 is good we have an agreement in principle. Then it just becomes a matter of working out the details. It would really help having a simple yes or no. And yes, it is really that simple. Agree then work out the details.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Ullmark tried doing that and the team said "F U we don't want you. In fact, we're going to trade you right now before you can stop us, even though you say you want to stay with the team."

That's the kind of loyalty this front office has.

Well this goalie tandum hasn't done anything in the playoffs but win a round in 2 years. Funny how they expect the red carpet rolled out for them

 

[Grimey]

Well this goalie tandum hasn't done anything in the playoffs but win a round in 2 years. Funny how they expect the red carpet rolled out for them

3 years*

Well, 3 postseasons anyway

 

[DiggityDog]

Exactly

Never said it wasn't. In fact, I've said it repeatedly. But don't say a player isn't loyal when we all know that teams aren't loyal either.

Again it’s a business, a transaction. I pay you to play well and put asses in seats so I can make more money.

The Bruins showed loyalty to Bergeron and Krejci by giving them a last dance and mortgaged their future in the process. That is what loyalty often gets you.

The Bruins don’t owe any of these guys anything outside of what is in their contract. The players don’t owe the team anything outside of what is in their contract.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Well this goalie tandum hasn't done anything in the playoffs but win a round in 2 years. Funny how they expect the red carpet rolled out for them

Agreed. I expect better results with Korpi and Bussi/Patera

 

[KrejciMVP]

Agreed. I expect better results with Korpi and Bussi/Patera

Who knows with goalies tìm Thomas was a journey man who found success

 

[LSCII]

Sarros signed this summer. He has a better resume. Better and longer track record.

Better resume? Where? More games, sure. Better resume? Nah. Sway has a better winning%, better GAA, and better sv%. Other than you know all of that, Saros is better, if you say so.

 

[Grimey]

Agreed. I expect better results with Korpi and Bussi/Patera

Still waiting for a link on those killer quotes, my dude. I don’t have all night.

Or did you just lie about what was said? I know you wouldn’t do that. Since you’re so mad that Neely lied.

Right?

 

[LSCII]

Who knows with goalies tìm Thomas was a journey man who found success

How often does that happen?

 

[KrejciMVP]

How often does that happen?

How about ken dryden, wasn't a touted prospect. Came out of nowhere

 

[JOKER 192]

Better resume? Where? More games, sure. Better resume? Nah. Sway has a better winning%, better GAA, and better sv%. Other than you know all of that, Saros is better, if you say so.

Well for starters he's proven he can play 60+ games. He's put up similar numbers, doing so playing on a mid tier team.

He's also paid his dues something Swayman hasn't done. He wants to be paid more than better goalies than he .

 

[Pia8988]

All time fumbling

 

[BradPark22]

All time fumbling

Yes, by Swayman and his agent.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Better resume? Where? More games, sure. Better resume? Nah. Sway has a better winning%, better GAA, and better sv%. Other than you know all of that, Saros is better, if you say so.

A poster mentioned Sway has a pathetic (not his words) danger area save%

That tells me he's as good as the 5 guys on the ice, When they breakdown and allow a shooter to be in for a high danger opportunity Sway shits his pads.

This is why I believe Korpo will be a much better goalie in Boston with the basic saves being handled routinely , the question to me is can he be better than Sway in the high danger areas saves?

 

[LSCII]

Well for starters he's proven he can play 60+ games. He's put up similar numbers, doing so playing on a mid tier team.

He's also paid his dues something Swayman hasn't done. He wants to be paid more than better goalies than he .

But you said better. And when I pointed out that was not true, you changed the argument to similar numbers and qualified it.

You know what is interesting though? Through age 25 the most games Saros started was 35. Swayman has already started more games than that at the same age. And the only reason Sway didn’t start more is because they had another top notch tender in Ullmark. That was a strength so why wouldn’t you use it? But to hold that against a guy is silly.

 

[PaulD]

Well this goalie tandum hasn't done anything in the playoffs but win a round in 2 years. Funny how they expect the red carpet rolled out for them

probably looked at the leaf core.

 

[Smitty93]

A poster mentioned Sway has a pathetic (not his words) danger area save%

That tells me he's as good as the 5 guys on the ice, When they breakdown and allow a shooter to be in for a high danger opportunity Sway shits his pads.

This is why I believe Korpo will be a much better goalie in Boston with the basic saves being handled routinely , the question to me is can he be better than Sway in the high danger areas saves?

You mean the poster who was refuted with this data?

Over the past 2 years, among the 32 goalies with the most TOI (basically a list of assumed starters), he's 4th in 5-on-5 HDSV%. Looking at just last year (same 32 goalie filter), he was 11th. I'm not sure how either of those suggests his HDSV% stinks.

 

[KrejciMVP]

A poster mentioned Sway has a pathetic (not his words) danger area save%

That tells me he's as good as the 5 guys on the ice, When they breakdown and allow a shooter to be in for a high danger opportunity Sway shits his pads.

This is why I believe Korpo will be a much better goalie in Boston with the basic saves being handled routinely , the question to me is can he be better than Sway in the high danger areas saves?

To me it's who can make the big saves in key moments and can see the puck through screens and traffic . Most goalies cans save low percentage shots. Soft goals can kill a team and deflate momentum..

 

[LSCII]

A poster mentioned Sway has a pathetic (not his words) danger area save%

That tells me he's as good as the 5 guys on the ice, When they breakdown and allow a shooter to be in for a high danger opportunity Sway shits his pads.

This is why I believe Korpo will be a much better goalie in Boston with the basic saves being handled routinely , the question to me is can he be better than Sway in the high danger areas saves?

When you have a belief you search for any stat that will “prove” your claim. If it wasn’t high danger save% it would have been second chance scoring chances or rebound control, or whatever argument fit the need.

 

[Beyonder]

It will be a good day when talk can turn to everybody else on the team and not this one guy involved in a contract dispute.