Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII- Swayman's agent basically calls Cam a liar

[smithformeragent]

@Gee Wally

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But you folks must simply stop taking personal shots at each. Stay to topic.

If not we will be left with no choice other than adding thread bans.

BOSTON — Boston Bruins president Cam Neely suggested Monday that the team has made an eight-year offer to unsigned restricted free agent goaltender Jeremy Swayman at $8 million annually.

“I don’t want to get into the weeds with what his ask is,” Neely said at a news conference at TD Garden. “But I know that I have 64 million reasons why I’d be playing right now.”

Neely did not disclose what Swayman’s ask has been but said he was surprised by it.

So far, Swayman is holding firm to his demand. It aligns with his personality of not backing down, especially following his uncomfortable 2023 arbitration hearing. According to Neely, Swayman wants to set a new market for goalies, specifically ones under team control.

“What his ask is and what we believe his comp group is,” Neely said, “are two different things.”

General manager Don Sweeney said he remains in contact with Lewis Gross, Swayman’s agent. The Bruins are not interested in trading Swayman.

“Ultimately, we’re a better team, as I’ve said all along, if Jeremy is part of our hockey club,” Sweeney said. “That’s my intention. That’s my wish. I’ll continue to work to do that. I think Jeremy and the team are both hurt in this regard. That’s what I’ll do. I’ll continue to work hard to find a settling point.”

With only three preseason games left, it is likely Swayman will miss regular-season time, even if an agreement is pending. Coach Jim Montgomery designated Joonas Korpisalo as his goalie for the regular-season opener against the Florida Panthers on Oct. 8, regardless of Swayman’s situation. The Bruins have two full practices remaining in camp.

“Where we are in camp right now, with how well camp has gone and how well Korpisalo has done,” Montgomery said, “right now, he’s going to be our Game 1 starter.”

How good is the offer?​

Swayman would become the fifth-highest-paid goalie in the NHL under the Bruins’ offer, behind Sergei Bobrovsky, Andrei Vasilevskiy, Connor Hellebuyck and Ilya Sorokin. Only Vasilevskiy ($9.5 million average annual value) signed his contract as a pending restricted free agent. The others were due to become unrestricted.

It is a significant payday for Swayman, considering he has never been a regular-season No. 1 goalie.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5806291/2024/09/30/bruins-cam-neely-jeremy-swayman/

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[Dr Quincy]

Probably would do it in a press conference in the most unprofessional manner possible.

And start the whisper campaign. I wonder if there was a security guard outside Swayman's hotel room.

 

[Bad Hat Harry]

If Swayman asks for a trade do the pro-Swayman people turn into the anti-Debrusk people?


Sounds crybabyish to be honest, especially after you leaked (not said directly) that the Bruins GM is incompetent.

Yeah, no one was thinking that until now. Dammit Sway!

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Yeah, no one was thinking that until now. Dammit Sway!

Ah you’re that guy. Makes sense.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

I believe someone posted in one of the earlier threads it wasn't a possibility as they were up against the cap and a 2 year deal would've had a higher AAV than a one year. Then lots of debate that Sweeney screwed up the cap the year before (2022) with the bonus structure of Bergeron and another player (can't remember the name) which counted against last year's cap (2023) which caused the cap situation.

Krejci was the other player.

 

[Dr Quincy]

I've just always loved cheering for the Bruins players who have poured their hearts out there, put the team first, always focused on wining.

Ullmark tried doing that and the team said "F U we don't want you. In fact, we're going to trade you right now before you can stop us, even though you say you want to stay with the team."

That's the kind of loyalty this front office has.

 

[LSCII]

If Swayman asks for a trade do the pro-Swayman people turn into the anti-Debrusk people?


Sounds crybabyish to be honest, especially after you leaked (not said directly) that the Bruins GM is incompetent.

Weren’t you complaining about rumors that Gross was leaking things to the media? Weird how you haven’t condemned Neely for doing that, no?

 

[Bad Hat Harry]

Ah you’re that guy. Makes sense.

Sorry, I've had a rough 24 hours. One of the deadline deniers.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Weren’t you complaining about rumors that Gross was leaking things to the media? Weird how you haven’t condemned Neely for doing that, no?

What did he leak to the press? He spoke to them directly.

(Laughing Emoji)

 

[Dr Quincy]

Ah you’re that guy. Makes sense.

Thank goodness the deadline got the deal done.

When does that Hlinka thing end?

 

[PB37]

I'd say the same about Neely and Sweeney acting emotional and unprofessional at press conferences. And let's not pretend like the Bruins front office doesn't have a history of leaking things about coaches and players after they let them go.

This seems ass backwards, since it was Camp Swayman that was turning to the media several times before the Bruins finally responded.

 

[Grimey]

Yeah, no one was thinking that until now. Dammit Sway!

It’s always a wicked smart idea to slander your current boss.

 

[Over the volcano]

Rask had even better offensive support than Swayman did last year. The team scored 3.29 goals a game in the playoffs on that Cup run.

Last year they scored 1.74 goals per game.

Do you think getting 2x as many goals per game had something do with that Finals run?

What were Rask's numbers during that run?

Weren’t you complaining about rumors that Gross was leaking things to the media? Weird how you haven’t condemned Neely for doing that, no?

It's not a leak if you say it in front of the camera. That's owning it.

 

[Bad Hat Harry]

It’s always a wicked smart idea to slander your current boss.

And alienate your employees to their peers and the public.

 

[Dr Quincy]

This seems ass backwards, since it was Camp Swayman that was turning to the media several times before the Bruins finally responded.

Poor Cam!!

 

[CellyHard]

Ullmark tried doing that and the team said "F U we don't want you. In fact, we're going to trade you right now before you can stop us, even though you say you want to stay with the team."

That's the kind of loyalty this front office has.

Eh they had to choose between Swayman and Ullmark eventually.

Unfortunately, we've done this a few times over the years. Krug is another example.

We can't keep everyone and sometimes smart and hard business decisions need to be made

 

[JOKER 192]

Yes, it is something happens every year. It goes up. Which is why people clinging to their stupid f***ing comps that a player signed 4-5 years ago is f***ing dumb.

Sarros signed this summer. He has a better resume. Better and longer track record.

 

[LiseL]

Sits for the year is actually impossible. Nobody should vote for it.

If Sway were to actually do that, he is the dumbest athlete in the NHL. And he'd deserve every bit of misery coming.

You fire your agent on the eve of Dec 1, and you sign.

Or you do what Nylander did in 2018 and deal with the GM directly to get a contract signed. However, it might not be an 8 year deal and you'll have to deal with that agent again when he's UFA. Then all bets are off as look at the contract Nylander got as a UFA. I read somewhere that Gross said the price was $92 million or he'd go to market so TML caved and offered it. Was that true or was Gross being Gross? We'll never know but we do know that TML weren't taking any chances.

 

[Bad Hat Harry]

Thank goodness the deadline got the deal done.

When does that Hlinka thing end?

He's not a UFA for 2 more years, they have plenty of time to get a deal done!

 

[danpantz]

Rask had even better offensive support than Swayman did last year. The team scored 3.29 goals a game in the playoffs on that Cup run.

Last year they scored 1.74 goals per game.

Do you think getting 2x as many goals per game had something do with that Finals run?

I do know that Rask let in two goals in 4 games against a ridiculously loaded Penguins team in round 2.

 

[Greek_physique]

If I'm Sway, I change my ask to $2 years x 7 million.

Get to UFA and then get away from this goofball front office.

IMO, he could also lose everything like Dennis Schroder or L.Bell.

 

[SPV]

Rask had even better offensive support than Swayman did last year. The team scored 3.29 goals a game in the playoffs on that Cup run.

Last year they scored 1.74 goals per game.

Do you think getting 2x as many goals per game had something do with that Finals run?

Yes, I do. But his numbers were still much better than Swayman. And that’s got a lot more negotiating power than losing in the 2nd round.

 

[PB37]

Poor Cam!!

If Camp Sway didn't want things to turn public, they shouldn't have turned to the media. Seems like they're getting exactly what they want. Or maybe they expected to keep running their mouth to the media without any blowback.

 

[DiggityDog]

Ullmark tried doing that and the team said "F U we don't want you. In fact, we're going to trade you right now before you can stop us, even though you say you want to stay with the team."

That's the kind of loyalty this front office has.

Too funny.

“Before you can stop us”?

Ottawa wasn’t on his list. This is a business.

 

[LSCII]

What were Rask's numbers during that run?


It's not a leak if you say it in front of the camera. That's owning it.

What do you call him inferring they offered a number that they clearly didn’t? You think he “owned” that too?

 

[Dr Quincy]

Too funny.

“Before you can stop us”?

Ottawa wasn’t on his list. This is a business.

Exactly

Never said it wasn't. In fact, I've said it repeatedly. But don't say a player isn't loyal when we all know that teams aren't loyal either.