Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII- Swayman's agent basically calls Cam a liar

[TD Charlie]

Sure, but is there a massive difference between 9.5 and 9.5? Who cares if 9.5 is setting the market or not ruining it?

I certainly see your point, and don’t necessarily disagree with it, but the actual number is really what matters and ultimately does make the difference one of semantics.

I know. Problem is, we just don’t know the actual numbers. We didn’t know. We had rumors and thought we knew. Then we had concrete numbers and thought we know. Now we are back to step 1 of not knowing squat lol

But yes i agree, if he’s staying firm asking for 9.5 long term, that’s quite a bit more aggressive than just “not ruining” the goalie market.

Yes but according to anohter earlier poster, Cam said in his presser that Swayman wants to reset the RFA goalie market.

That’s what Neely believes. It’s never been what Swayman said, and it’s been a rallying cry used by the f*** Jeremy Swayman crowd for two weeks now

 

[NeelyDan]

I know. Problem is, we just don’t know the actual numbers. We didn’t know. We had rumors and thought we knew. Then we had concrete numbers and thought we know. Now we are back to step 1 of not knowing squat lol

But yes i agree, if he’s staying firm asking for 9.5 long term, that’s quite a bit more aggressive than just “not ruining” the goalie market.


That’s what Neely believes. It’s never been what Swayman said, and it’s been a rallying cry used by the f*** Jeremy Swayman crowd for two weeks now

We don’t know what else Swayman has or hasn’t said to be honest

 

[GordonHowe]

Jeremy Swayman’s agent releases statement, says $64 million offer was not initially presented

Jeremy Swayman's agent, Lewis Gross, doled out a harsh statement following Cam Neely's comments about a potential $64 million offer.

www.boston.com

 

[NeelyDan]

I know. Problem is, we just don’t know the actual numbers. We didn’t know. We had rumors and thought we knew. Then we had concrete numbers and thought we know. Now we are back to step 1 of not knowing squat lol

But yes i agree, if he’s staying firm asking for 9.5 long term, that’s quite a bit more aggressive than just “not ruining” the goalie market.


That’s what Neely believes. It’s never been what Swayman said, and it’s been a rallying cry used by the f*** Jeremy Swayman crowd for two weeks now

Also, one can have feelings about this without being part of any f*** them crowd - I am one for example

 

[shelbysdad]

I wonder if sway would be happy getting 9 M in Anaheim, San Jose or Utah.
Is it about winning or only about $$$

 

[GahdenRinkRat]

Depends on who you believe

Will make for an interesting Behind the B episode

 

[BTO]

Sports agents laws never get enforced. Most that would happen is Swayman would get rid of Gross.

There are laws?

 

[TD Charlie]

We don’t know what else Swayman has or hasn’t said to be honest

True. I only know what was a direct quote on that d-bag podcast a couple weeks ago. On that pod, Jay Sway said “not ruin”

Behind closed doors he might be telling Sweeney he wants to be the highest paid athlete of all time.

I thought i knew the bruins offered 64 mil and now I’m unsure of that too.

I’m questioning my sanity NeelyDaniel. I don’t even know who I am anymore

 

[NeelyDan]

True. I only know what was a direct quote on that d-bag podcast a couple weeks ago. On that pod, Jay Sway said “not ruin”

Behind closed doors he might be telling Sweeney he wants to be the highest paid athlete of all time.

I thought i knew the bruins offered 64 mil and now I’m unsure of that too.

I’m questioning my sanity NeelyDaniel. I don’t even know who I am anymore

First time I’ve ever been full named here, I love you dad

 

[Ladyfan]

Because you are saying Neely isn't lying. I mean that's what he does

I feel sorry for you

 

[TD Charlie]

Also, one can have feelings about this without being part of any f*** them crowd - I am one for example

I have so many feelings. I’m probably more of a f*** all of them guy at this point lol. I’m just along for the laughs now. I am a broken, deeply scarred shell of a man

 

[CDJ]

I think there’s a very real chance Swayman didn’t know 8 x 8 was on the table. Nylander didn’t seem thrilled with Goss and specifically said he wished he was more involved from the jump iirc

 

[TD Charlie]

I think there’s a very real chance Swayman didn’t know 8 x 8 was on the table. Nylander didn’t seem thrilled with Goss and specifically said he wished he was more involved from the jump iirc

Was it Ference that negotiated his own contracts? I kinda get it now. I suppose if you aren’t much of a salesman, and aren’t good on contract law, probably best to have a professional handle it. But i see the benefits to not having one too

 

[BTO]

The amount of people who think Gross would risk his Agents license and therefore his entire career by intentionally not disclosing a contract to swayman is insane.

Fandom is a hell of a drug.

Yes, but it could well be, as someone else has already suggested (God knows on what page), that Gross and Swayman agreed on a #, say $9m, and Gross told Swayman that he would inform him when they offered it (or it was Swayman who said that). But, since they hadn’t offered it, Gross never brought the 8/8 to Swayman’s attention. That is at least plausible.

 

[GordonHowe]

I have so many feelings. I’m probably more of a f*** all of them guy at this point lol. I’m just along for the laughs now. I am a broken, deeply scarred shell of a man

Just a game, darling.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Absolutely. If Gross is lying it should be extremely easy to prove for the bruins as there would certainly be some form of written communication or recorded verbal communication. Then he should lose his license.

The Bruins didn’t accuse anyone of lying. The agent did. If Neely is lying, Gross should easily be able to prove it with written communication of their best offer.

 

[TD Charlie]

Just a game, darling.

I deal explicitly in the extreme hyperbole. I’m all good no worries

 

[Ladyfan]

Sway was taken advantage of by his agent (who should be fired). So once Sway signs remember he was just naive, and we can still like him.

I hope he is signed soon.

 

[GordonHowe]

I deal explicitly in the extreme hyperbole. I’m all good no worries

I am wearing my Bobby Orr t-shirt as I respond.

Where's the Eagle when you need him?

 

[BTO]

He said…he said…

Yet again, his agent didn’t “refute” anything. He *disputed* it. I know, I know, “semantics”. Except it isn’t. It’s as annoying af.

 

[UncleRico]

The Bruins didn’t accuse anyone of lying. The agent did. If Neely is lying, Gross should easily be able to prove it with written communication of their best offer.

To a degree. Unless Gross just lies about what the most recent communication is.

 

[LiseL]

I wonder if we can sign Ullmark as a UFA next summer or if we've totally burned that bridge lol.

As a Sens fan, I'm hoping for burned bridges lol.

 

[Number8]

At today’s press conference, $64 million was referenced. This was the first time that number was discussed in our negotiations. Prior to the press conference, no offer was made reaching that level.

Hmmm did the Bruins scramble and get that offer out to Gross after the press conference?

Step away from the ledge. It’s all going to be ok, no matter if he's in Boston or somewhere else. Not worth losing your mind over this.

 

[Ladyfan]

What if I don’t believe any of them lol

I don't know what to say to you?

 

[Number8]

If Gross is intentionally lying and not disclosing contracts to swayman, then that is grounds to having your license revoked.

I highly highly doubt Gross is going to throw his career away on Swayman.

If true, the bruins should immediately report it and provide evidence that a contract was offered. If it was offered there is some form of written communication to back it up.

Holy shit. Like someone is going to say “Yeah. Here’s my email. Look look. I sent it.”

Come on man.