Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII - As featured in Episode 3 of Amazon's "FACEOFF: Inside the NHL

[smithformeragent]

One could make the argument that we're beating a dead horse here.

So be it. Discuss, if you so choose. We'll keep all the Swayman talk contained to this thread.

If you have nothing meaningful to contribute to the conversation, move along.

We will not have this devolve into thread hijacking and flaming of other posters.

@Gee Wally

We have numerous deletions and more in here. We know tension and emotions are high.
But you folks must simply stop taking personal shots at each. Stay to topic.

If not we will be left with no choice other than adding thread bans.

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[PB37]

I’m sure all the people calling Gross a liar and for him to be fired for “lying that a $64 million contract wasn’t offered” are now going to keep that same energy for Neely lying about the offer… right?

Did you see the numbers Friedman posted today on what he'd heard the several different offers have been?

 

[Mainehockey33]

Has there been any other player in NHL history that has been offered $64 million after playing 132 games? McDavid maybe? Oh, and Rick Dipietro lmao

 

[CheerstoBeers]

Why would swayman be embarrassed by the Bruins saying they offered him 64 million if he wasn’t ever going to accept it anyways? Was embarrassed by the offer being to low?

I do know Sweeney and Cam were embarrassed a few times by Gross leaking stuff to Chiclets about the negotiation though.

Because they did it to make him the villain with Bruins fans. They wanted it out there that hey, we made this offer and Swayman won't accept it so we should all be angry about it, don't blame us and of course he'd be embarrassed and pissed off especially if Neely was lying and that offer hadn't even been officially offered to him yet..

 

[PB37]

His comps aren't any players. It's the dollar value the league pays. Big difference.


No, I said comps are useless because of them being biased based on who was picking them. Big difference.

So it's the dollar value the league pays what... their janitors?

 

[BostonBruins11]

Over the past 2 years, among the 32 goalies with the most TOI (basically a list of assumed starters), he's 4th in 5-on-5 HDSV%. Looking at just last year (same 32 goalie filter), he was 11th. I'm not sure how either of those suggests his HDSV% stinks.

I stand corrected, I thought he was worse. But IMO that doesn't excuse the inflated ego, I know there's a fine line between confidence and ego but after this fiasco I'm starting to feel it's the latter.

 

[PaulD]

I do look forward to all the “I really can’t enjoy this cup run because I feel Swayman is overpaid” posts in June

Cup run ....as long as Swayman doesn't have to play the Panthers

 

[JAD]

cheers are louder for Neely and Sweeney on the Jumbotron than the players on the ice


Being a 7 seed and out in 5 will show him!

That 7th seed (1st WC) could be the 4th best team in the conference mathematically speaking and it wouldn't be the first time very good team was eliminated in the first round.
Or they could catch lightning In a bottle (no pun) and go all the way.
There's just no way to know until the games are played.

I'm willing to take the chance.

 

[UncleRico]

Did you see the numbers Friedman posted today on what he'd heard the several different offers have been?

Yes did you listen to the podcast?

Friedman said the $64 million was not on the table before the press conference.

 

[PB37]

Yes did you listen to the podcast?

Friedman said the $64 million was not on the table before the press conference.

I did. The offer is there and it's still not enough.

 

[Lord Ahriman]

8 x 8 is fair and imo should be the final offer. He says "nope" I would give him green light to seek a trade.

 

[UncleRico]

I did. The offer is there and it's still not enough.

Ok but the people calling Gross a liar for saying $64 million was not on the table were wrong.

Neely lied.

 

[Absurdity]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1841487255631695890

 

[PB37]

Ok but the people calling Gross a liar for saying $64 million was not on the table were wrong.

Neely lied.

So you believe it was 7.8? Then you believe the same report that Swayman is at 8.5?

 

[Sheppy]

Realistically, what could we expect for a return on trade?

It's too bad Nichushkin is a mess. Colorado could have been a potential suitor.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

8 x 8 is fair and imo should be the final offer. He says "nope" I would give him green light to seek a trade.

No trade.

 

[UncleRico]

So you believe it was 7.8? Then you believe the same report that Swayman is at 8.5?

I don’t know what to believe exactly.

I just find it very interesting all the people who were calling Gross a liar for saying $64 million wasn’t on the table are now very silent about the topic that there’s multiple reports saying $64 million wasn’t on the table.

I guess we won’t hold Neely accountable for lying.

 

[PB37]

Realistically, what could we expect for a return on trade?

It's too bad Nishuskhin is a mess. Colorado could have been a potential suitor.

It would have to be to a team that not only needs a #1 but can afford one and is willing to pay Swayman's asking price. I think that drives his value down, especially if said team can't find common ground with his agent and they opt out.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

It would have to be to a team that not only needs a #1 but can afford one and is willing to pay Swayman's asking price. I think that drives his value down, especially if said team can't find common ground with his agent and they opt out.

In effect, Swayman has a full 31 team NTC right now.

 

[PB37]

I don’t know what to believe exactly.

I just find it very interesting all the people who were calling Gross a liar for saying $64 million wasn’t on the table are now very silent about the topic that there’s multiple reports saying $64 million wasn’t on the table.

I guess we won’t hold Neely accountable for lying.

Oh, so you're not sure if Neely lied, you're just here for the fan bashing. Got ya.

 

[Eddie Munson]

I heard from the mods if this reaches 10 pages, we all get free pizza

Let’s hold out until December 1st for free lobster.

 

[UncleRico]

Oh, so you're not sure if Neely lied, you're just here for the fan bashing. Got ya.

Oh no I should have clarified.

I don’t know what to believe for dollar figures on the table.

I fully believe the multiple reports that $64 million wasn’t on the table and that Neely lied.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Cup run ....as long as Swayman doesn't have to play the Panthers

Rank these 3 player on their performance against FLA last year:
Swayman
Pastrnak
McAvoy

 

[Sheppy]

Myself and @NeelyDan will kidnap Swayman and get him crippled drunk enough to sign a 7 year $7M contract on our way to pick up the @The don godfather as we venture our way across North America looking for ladies of the evening.

We will find Jeff Carter for The Don Godfather as well.

 

[Bodit9]

Rank these 3 player on their performance against FLA last year:
Swayman
Pastrnak
McAvoy

Position players are different than goalies and paid differently

 

[CDJ]

Rank these 3 player on their performance against FLA last year:
Swayman
Pastrnak
McAvoy

Probably that order, though I wouldn’t necessarily say Swayman was great. He did fine. Just because Pastrnak and McAvoy played poorly in a series doesn’t mean Swayman is worth overpaying though

44 game max season, no hardware, and one playoff series win against a notoriously impotent franchise isn’t gonna make you #1 Defenseman money