Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII - As featured in Episode 3 of Amazon's "FACEOFF: Inside the NHL

[smithformeragent]

One could make the argument that we're beating a dead horse here.

So be it. Discuss, if you so choose. We'll keep all the Swayman talk contained to this thread.

If you have nothing meaningful to contribute to the conversation, move along.

We will not have this devolve into thread hijacking and flaming of other posters.

@Gee Wally

We have numerous deletions and more in here. We know tension and emotions are high.
But you folks must simply stop taking personal shots at each. Stay to topic.

If not we will be left with no choice other than adding thread bans.

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[DKH]

Idk after the Cam 8 million per announcement thing its all on Sway. If he isn't signed by Monday he's not a team guy and doesn't deserve to wear the B any longer. 8 mil a year is extremely generous for a guy that hasn't played a full load as a starter.

I think he takes it

Players seem to be on board

I need to get back bitching about Lysell getting sent down

 

[stungun54]

knew we should have traded him at the draft and kept Ullmark. not a popular opinion but we had two great goalies and may end up with none.

 

[Dr Quincy]

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Even looks like me

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Bruins failed because Sweeney probably had Sway at 7.8 M until Cam negotiated up to 8 M costing Donny 200K for moves

8/64 still a win win for everyone

So why would Cam say $64 mil? Can't multiply? Or was he misinformed by Dono? Or did he misremember?

Seems very strange.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

knew we should have traded him at the draft and kept Ullmark. not a popular opinion but we had two great goalies and may end up with none.

After those playoffs?

Talk about asking to be fired.

 

[badbrewin]

must be tough deciding which Mercedes to take to the grocery store

Some people live beyond their means as it is, so some might have spent $ that was "to come". Who could ever have foresaw what happened eh?

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

Assuming an 8 year deal gets done, it's just short term pain for long term gain as he looks like a top 5 goalie and all-star.

Unless you prefer "more compliant" goaltenders like these guys.

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i'd rather just wait a season for my homegrown guy to take the starters role and keep my assets

please educate me. which teams have the assets to give up, the cap space to accommodate sway's insane ask, are close enough to contention to make it all worth it and who's final missing piece is a starting goalie?

 

[Over the volcano]

knew we should have traded him at the draft and kept Ullmark. not a popular opinion but we had two great goalies and may end up with none.

There's a reason it's not a popular opinion

 

[JOKER 192]

What drives me nuts is when people say that Swayman should've known that arbitration was just business and that the team, who he thought was invested in him and wanted him to succeed, talked badly about him. That he should be more professional and unemotional, and just business.

And now this year he's treating it like a business and doing what people do in business negotiations.... play hardball.

And guess what, the same people are killing him. "Why can't he show loyalty to the team that took a chance on him!! Why is he treating this just like a business??"

That's the shit that drives me nuts.

If he actually treated it like a buisness a deal would have been done.

I'm not asking for loyalty. Just some reality.

Oh, and that he spare us all the bellyaching BS.

 

[since76]

We can all disagree about who has the leverage here between swayman and management.

One thing is for sure, the way this is playing out in the media if this results in a trade the bruins will have no leverage.

the thing is if bruins dont get a very good trade they just let him miss
a season ….

 

[the negotiator]

If Swayman isn't over his last year ARB experience, he'll never get over this contract experience.
Good lord.

I fear you may be right.....on the ice Sway is one cool and focused customer

Off the ice - It appears not so much

I know the Bs pay for on the ice results but often the off ice bleeds over

WHAT A MESS

 

[Skelen]

i'd rather just wait a season for my homegrown guy to take the starters role and keep my assets

please educate me. which teams have the assets to give up, the cap space to accommodate sway's insane ask, are close enough to contention to make it all worth it and who's final missing piece is a starting goalie?

The Kings or Avs.

They don't current have the cap without sending us a premium piece in return but I think they are a goalie away from being a serious contender. That or Utah has the cap now.

 

[Pia8988]

So why would Cam say $64 mil? Can't multiply? Or was he misinformed by Dono? Or did he misremember?

Seems very strange.

Cam? All of the above

 

[UncleRico]

the thing is if bruins dont get a very good trade they just let him miss
a season ….

Definitely a possibility, but I doubt the bruins want that distraction and would much rather get some form of return for him to play this year.

 

[Greek_physique]

Once he signs and they have the press conference, we need him and Neely to do a goalie hug

 

[Clode]

how does : Zigras + Gibson for Swayman sound ?

If Swayman is getting moved to a team like Anaheim I'd want an unprotected 1st in this years draft

 

[Absurdity]

The Bruins failed this entire process. They should have sat swayman down and negotiated the one year cap crunch and then the extension. He went to arbitration because the Bruins were doing their typical take this or leave it deal

Depending on how this situation goes, the biggest failure on management is trading Ullmark away without signing Swayman first. Swayman told management he wants to be here, and they should have signed him first before dealing Ullmark away.

The issue with Swayman being involved in negotiations is just that, he's not, his agent is. This is back from May 2023: Jeremy Swayman gives crucial update on future in Boston

“I would like to be playing hockey, and ideally in a Bruins sweater,” Swayman said. “Again, I’m just taking it day by day and letting my agent be involved and take control. I have no doubt it will be a fun contract and good things will happen.”

He also said that he leaves the negotiation process up to those who are better equipped to handle it - his agent.

“No, I leave that up to the agents and the guys that are good at that. I’m excited for sure, I absolutely love it here and it’s going to be a fun process,” Swayman replied.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

F&M have moved on. But they laid a beat down on Swayman and Gross. TKO.

Was Neely on or no?

 

[DKH]

So why would Cam say $64 mil? Can't multiply? Or was he misinformed by Dono? Or did he misremember?

Seems very strange.

He rounded up

and he was likely approved for 8/64 but Sweens trying to save a few hundred thousand being up against cap

7.8 is basically 8 to me

Glad this gets done and soon

Swayman - Korpi is high end

 

[Gee Wally]

Was Neely on or no?

No. He may have been attending the Board of Governors meetings.

 

[What The Puck]

My opinion and perspective:
The Bruins had a goalie tandem where both wanted to make bank in their contract years.
You cannot have a goalie tandem both making bank, so one of them had to go. Boston kept the younger one.
As soon as Linus left, Sway thought he had the team over a barrel. Started going on about his business acumen and wanting to set the market for the good of every goalie in the league. Probably agonized every night over getting the best deal for all those poor goalies out there starving in the NHL. This was his chance to make it right.

Eight times $8 million not good enough for a guy who has never been the workhorse, never won a Vezina nor a cup. Because he has that business training. The guy basically has his MBA.

My guess is, Sway gets traded to Anaheim, especially with Gibson out. I'm over it, can't wait till he leaves. Hope we get something good for him, and he can teach finance in his new locker room.

 

[Lord Ahriman]

According Puckpedia they have $7.8M. Let's say Brown/Lettieri to AHL, Bussi waived and Johnson/Lysell in. That would give them ~ $9.2M to sign Swayman and cap space for any call up. Not good, but not terrible either. That being said, imo, the "$8M sand line" shouldn't be crossed.

 

[BiteThisBurrows]

The Kings or Avs.

They don't current have the cap without sending us a premium piece in return but I think they are a goalie away from being a serious contender. That or Utah has the cap now.

If you send a top 6 forward back to the Bruins in any Swayman deal you probably open up enough cap to include a lot of other teams in that list.

 

[LiseL]

My late brother was an NCAA D1 goalie recruited by Northeastern during his 1968-69
HS season and he was absolutely insane.


Is Gross still Nylanders agent?

Yep. According to what I read, in his recent contract negotiation, Gross told Treliving Nylander wanted $92 million or he'd test the UFA market. Treliving caved. I guess Nylander wasn't upset with his agent back in 2018, maybe that was just spin to save face. We'll never know.

 

[Midship]

Once he signs and they have the press conference, we need him and Neely to do a goalie hug

I think Neely would actually die from cringe