Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII - agreed to 8 x 8.25 aav

[smithformeragent]

One could make the argument that we're beating a dead horse here.

So be it. Discuss, if you so choose. We'll keep all the Swayman talk contained to this thread.

If you have nothing meaningful to contribute to the conversation, move along.

We will not have this devolve into thread hijacking and flaming of other posters.

@Gee Wally

We have numerous deletions and more in here. We know tension and emotions are high.
But you folks must simply stop taking personal shots at each. Stay to topic.

If not we will be left with no choice other than adding thread bans.

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[GordonHowe]

That is acceptable to me. And very close to what I wanted to begin with. 8x8.

*An important concern is that they retain enough cap space to require what may be needed before or at the deadline.*

But, if the glove fits, you must acquit.

 

[NeelyDan]

Can we shut this monstrosity down now? Its way worse than politics lol

 

[PB37]

1) Wasn't lying, wasn't making an actual acceptable "offer"
2) See above. He couldn't turn down an offer that wasn't made.

It was a public offer and a reveal to what was incoming. Once it left Neely's mouth, it was there. Sweeney and Gross worked on the particulars during the week.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

If the Bruins want to pay him 66 mil that's their business.
Personally I think he's proven and earned the right to be paid 8 x 8.25.
Other fan bases probably thought this was their problem, but Boston exceeded their already underwhelming and extremely ungenerous offer and now this is just Boston's problem.
What Swayman's camp did has the potential to make this young man's career and reputation now that he signed a contract.

A quick note to Mr Swayman (or family/friends of his who will have him read this) ...

I'm going to root for the Bruins only if you are a part of the team.
I am a fan of you regardless of if you're a Bruin or not.
I am a fan of you playing goal.
I wanted you in goal for the playoffs last spring.
You have shown to have great potential going forward.
I'm glad you risked your career to get a better contract.
Many of your fans will never know or come close to earning the money you have already earned in your career.
You are alienating a very miniscule, insignificant, tiny minority of your vocal fanbase.
Many feel you are reasonable, deserving, humble, and flexible with your demands.
Additionally, many feel you aren't hurting the success of the overall team by fighting for what you deserve and are a team player. It's how they feel, rightfully or not.

Listen carefully...
I'm a grumpy new school liberal caucasian atheist male who has had everything handed to him in life. Yeah, that's where I'm coming from, I expect everything from others and feel they owe me everything. I am not thankful, nor grateful, for anything I have earned in my life, nor received from others. I'll be damned if I would give some older, probably entitled and mislead, Potentially over-the-hill goalie such a potential career Damaging massive contract versus a young goalie that has Proved his Maturity to handle the position's responsibilities by Demonstrating his Ability through ascending and Sustaining league dominance in his chosen position overal Several seasons. I would be at fault for nurturing such entitlement and enabling precious conceited veterans.

Thankfully, you are the LONE star on this team keeping everyone else afloat in the playoffs, that management finally recognized it. You win and lose as a team, but a goalie will make that team look significantly better or worse than it is. Your goalie stats are directly proportional to the team in front of you and aren't reflective of you as a goalie. Without you, they wouldn't be a playoff team and wouldn't be where they are today...standing at the threshold of a middling playoff team.

I'm not saying this is your intention (because I dont know you), but you are showing signs of standing strong, by demading something you've rightfully earned, which is a sign of a emotionally stable, strong willed adult who thinks he deserves to get paid what he is worth. You've established your worth by having the Balls to go out there and earn it. You've done it once, and I believe - you can do it again. Put doubters to shame and continue to garner respect from your peers. It's a dog eat dog world and you're making the other team's pucks your milkbone and you'll chew them up and spit them back out. The world is a very mean and competitive place and there is always going to be someone on an internet forum who thinks they are better then you and is going to want to take away what you have. Be proud that you got paid what you deserve.

No disrespect but, other players are dumbasses for not fighting for their worth. Do you really want to be going into a season being paid less than you're worth and have your value drop? It will be like screwing yourself over and making less money and having to prove yourself again even though you already have. Who knows how long it will take, or if you even get the chance. You signed that damn contract and now you can go out and prove it to the paying public.

Do I sound pissed? I am. Boys should be raised the way their parents think is right. Men of compassion, empathy, confidence, self-respect, and self-worth. Men of equality, equity, and respect. Not people who say 'yeah but what about me?'. Such as, to be paid like a player who carried a mediocre team to game 7 against the cup champs a year after the team blew a 3-1 series lead by going with a lesser goalie when they could have won a cup.

8x8.25 is a great contract, I hope you realize that. It would be one thing if Bruins management offered you that amount uncoerced. But still they have offered it to you, maybe not in the way you would have liked, but they have offered. And damnit, you took it. It's a very good look. Do the right thing, stand up for your self-worth.

If you hadn't signed by the start of the season, I would have supported you sitting out. And if I were you, I would have expected the management to try and cheap out and offer you less, much less, while that sat floundering with Korpisalo at a 3+ GAA and 890 sv% and trying to polish a turd in net as acceptable. At least being the grumpy young bastard I am that's what I would expect them to do. But I am just one fan of the team and as it stands now, I'm an even bigger fan of you Jeremy.

Not sure how to react to this AI generated Russian propaganda.

 

[Olden McGroin]

 

[Pia8988]

It was a public offer and a reveal to what was incoming. Once it left Neely's mouth, it was there. Sweeney and Gross worked on the particulars during the week.

No sane professional makes their offer through the media

 

[PB37]

No sane professional makes their offer through the media

You think Cam is sane? He's about as emotional and hot headed as they come.

 

[UncleRico]

They had to over pay Bobrovsky to fill a hole via UFA much like the Bruins did for Lindholm and Zadorov.

Oh I agree 100%. I’m just saying paying bobrovsky is an exception to the narrative that income tax states get to pay less for players because they paid full price for him if not extra

 

[Pia8988]

You think Cam is sane? He's about as emotional and hot headed as they come.

No, I think the only thing he's qualified for is shaking donor's hands, but he sucks up to the Jacobs and Harry.

 

[Mad-Marcus]

If the Bruins want to pay him 66 mil that's their business.
Personally I think he's proven and earned the right to be paid 8 x 8.25.
Other fan bases probably thought this was their problem, but Boston exceeded their already underwhelming and extremely ungenerous offer and now this is just Boston's problem.
What Swayman's camp did has the potential to make this young man's career and reputation now that he signed a contract.

A quick note to Mr Swayman (or family/friends of his who will have him read this) ...

I'm going to root for the Bruins only if you are a part of the team.
I am a fan of you regardless of if you're a Bruin or not.
I am a fan of you playing goal.
I wanted you in goal for the playoffs last spring.
You have shown to have great potential going forward.
I'm glad you risked your career to get a better contract.
Many of your fans will never know or come close to earning the money you have already earned in your career.
You are alienating a very miniscule, insignificant, tiny minority of your vocal fanbase.
Many feel you are reasonable, deserving, humble, and flexible with your demands.
Additionally, many feel you aren't hurting the success of the overall team by fighting for what you deserve and are a team player. It's how they feel, rightfully or not.

Listen carefully...
I'm a grumpy new school liberal caucasian atheist male who has had everything handed to him in life. Yeah, that's where I'm coming from, I expect everything from others and feel they owe me everything. I am not thankful, nor grateful, for anything I have earned in my life, nor received from others. I'll be damned if I would give some older, probably entitled and mislead, Potentially over-the-hill goalie such a potential career Damaging massive contract versus a young goalie that has Proved his Maturity to handle the position's responsibilities by Demonstrating his Ability through ascending and Sustaining league dominance in his chosen position overal Several seasons. I would be at fault for nurturing such entitlement and enabling precious conceited veterans.

Thankfully, you are the LONE star on this team keeping everyone else afloat in the playoffs, that management finally recognized it. You win and lose as a team, but a goalie will make that team look significantly better or worse than it is. Your goalie stats are directly proportional to the team in front of you and aren't reflective of you as a goalie. Without you, they wouldn't be a playoff team and wouldn't be where they are today...standing at the threshold of a middling playoff team.

I'm not saying this is your intention (because I dont know you), but you are showing signs of standing strong, by demading something you've rightfully earned, which is a sign of a emotionally stable, strong willed adult who thinks he deserves to get paid what he is worth. You've established your worth by having the Balls to go out there and earn it. You've done it once, and I believe - you can do it again. Put doubters to shame and continue to garner respect from your peers. It's a dog eat dog world and you're making the other team's pucks your milkbone and you'll chew them up and spit them back out. The world is a very mean and competitive place and there is always going to be someone on an internet forum who thinks they are better then you and is going to want to take away what you have. Be proud that you got paid what you deserve.

No disrespect but, other players are dumbasses for not fighting for their worth. Do you really want to be going into a season being paid less than you're worth and have your value drop? It will be like screwing yourself over and making less money and having to prove yourself again even though you already have. Who knows how long it will take, or if you even get the chance. You signed that damn contract and now you can go out and prove it to the paying public.

Do I sound pissed? I am. Boys should be raised the way their parents think is right. Men of compassion, empathy, confidence, self-respect, and self-worth. Men of equality, equity, and respect. Not people who say 'yeah but what about me?'. Such as, to be paid like a player who carried a mediocre team to game 7 against the cup champs a year after the team blew a 3-1 series lead by going with a lesser goalie when they could have won a cup.

8x8.25 is a great contract, I hope you realize that. It would be one thing if Bruins management offered you that amount uncoerced. But still they have offered it to you, maybe not in the way you would have liked, but they have offered. And damnit, you took it. It's a very good look. Do the right thing, stand up for your self-worth.

If you hadn't signed by the start of the season, I would have supported you sitting out. And if I were you, I would have expected the management to try and cheap out and offer you less, much less, while that sat floundering with Korpisalo at a 3+ GAA and 890 sv% and trying to polish a turd in net as acceptable. At least being the grumpy young bastard I am that's what I would expect them to do. But I am just one fan of the team and as it stands now, I'm an even bigger fan of you Jeremy.

D.B. says what.

 

[BradPark22]

D.B. says what.

That may have been the worst post I've ever seen on this site.

 

[HumBucker]

Just came here to say... WOO!

 

[lopey]

No sane professional makes their offer through the media

Man let it go. Move on. Its over. He signed s nice contract. Dont think Sway is even as pissed ad you.

 

[Pia8988]

Man let it go. Move on. Its over. He signed s nice contract. Dont think Sway is even as pissed ad you.

I'm not the one claiming this was calculated genius by Cam. It's hilarious the spinning that can happen

 

[Hookslide]

Well bring that up with lawmakers in Massachusetts.

Otherwise it’s nothing more than an excuse

Massachusetts politicians could care less about sports unless it is for photo op.

 

[bearcountry17]

Oh I agree 100%. I’m just saying paying bobrovsky is an exception to the narrative that income tax states get to pay less for players because they paid full price for him if not extra

I think they had to do that because they had only played one playoff series since 2013 and were an outside the bubble team at the time. Bob wasn’t going to get a better contract than that from anyone probably even without the tax situation. On the other hand I wouldn’t be shocked if there were other teams offering a little more to both Zad and Lindholm and they took a small haircut to play on a team that is competitive. Zadorov was making 3.75 and was reported as asking for 6 from the canucks got 5 and i remember reading that Calgary had offered something like 8.5 long term to Lindholm.

 

[HumBucker]

Wait. What????? What do we talk about now?????

1) Pick a Bruins player who you think sucks and harp on everything they do wrong
2) Complain that the team lacks toughness
3) 2015 draft

 

[Hookslide]

Just need to trade him before the NTC kicks in.

Tomorrow ok with you.

 

[What The Puck]

Jeremy Swayman has decided to join the Boston Bruins.

I was a fan of Sway, but now it's kind of feeling like Rask all over again, even if for different reasons. I feel like I could move on and get past this, but only if he's winning games. If he turns into former oiler and Maple leaf Jack Campbell, I expect the response will be dramatically negative in the media.

Ready to be a fan again. Hopefully Sway will make us forget all about it.

 

[lopey]

I'm not the one claiming this was calculated genius by Cam. It's hilarious the spinning that can happen

Yes thats a stupid comment Cam was not calculating. He was pissed. Both sides on this should be happy he signed. Let the rest go

 

[Grimey]

This thread needs a “you can go home but you can’t stay here” sign lol

 

[Hookslide]

If I'm Mason Lohrei or Matty Poitras I'd be hiring Lewis Gross right now.

Poitras hasn't even made the team yet. I would be more concerned about Freddy and Geekie

 

[Therewolf31]

Does Bussi make it through waivers to get sent down to Providence.

Good point. Forgot about that.

 

[Hookslide]

Yeah seems pretty good at his job.

Sweeney showed a complete lack of balls, he folded like a folding chair.

 

[Hookslide]

I don’t understand the main board sometimes. The general consensus over there seems to be that management got bent over because they went up 250k on their AAV. Not sure I understand

And I’m saying that as someone who thinks the contract is too much.

Oh now the offer was 8 mil and they only went up 250 thousand , all I heard was how insulted Sway was over the 6.225 mil offered.