Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII - agreed to 8 x 8.25 aav

[smithformeragent]

One could make the argument that we're beating a dead horse here.

So be it. Discuss, if you so choose. We'll keep all the Swayman talk contained to this thread.

If you have nothing meaningful to contribute to the conversation, move along.

We will not have this devolve into thread hijacking and flaming of other posters.

@Gee Wally

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[Grimey]

Jeremy watching the conference

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Looks like the entire spittin’ chiclets crew trying to find out what 64 divided by 8 is

 

[Mione134]

I would of expected a long term deal initially, but now with everything, I'm thinking bridge for now, then long term after.

 

[JCRO]

I would of expected a long term deal initially, but now with everything, I'm thinking bridge for now, then long term after.

That walks Sway right out of RFA eligibility which would be noooo good for the Bruins next time around.

Need to lock this up now.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I also wouldn’t be surprised if the club says something along the lines that the $8aav only applies at max term and the value on a bridge deal is closer yo$6.5-7m.

Can’t have your cake and eat it too.

A bridge contract should not be $8, no question. That is fair of the Bruins.

8 million for 8 years is more than an honor as a goalie and plenty for generations. He will likely never play over 60 games and cannot demand the same as a skater.

 

[Chevalier du Clavier]

Here's the thing though.....Swayman really hasn't said anything about negotiations. If you're referring to his podcast appearance, he didn't divulge anything of detail. It was more about how he was more prepared for negotiations this time.

You've seen the same comments by Swayman that I have. Have you seen any of the people I previously listed discuss their negotiations? Therein lies the difference.

 

[ON3M4N]

You've seen the same comments by Swayman that I have. Have you seen any of the people I previously listed discuss their negotiations? Therein lies the difference.

He didn't say anything about the actual negotiations though lol. No numbers thrown out, not comments about what the B's are telling him and his agent. A giant nothing burger

 

[Fenian24]

I voted trade and hate it, but if you hold out in Boston you get dealt. Hopefully Sweeney will not be around to make the deal.

 

[BamBamCam]

Why isn't there a sitting out option?

 

[Chevalier du Clavier]

He didn't say anything about the actual negotiations though lol. No numbers thrown out, not comments about what the B's are telling him and his agent. A giant nothing burger

One doesn't have to throw numbers out to discuss negotiations, but you keep chasing your tail.

 

[Carl Hungus]

That walks Sway right out of RFA eligibility which would be noooo good for the Bruins next time around.

Need to lock this up now.

I agree with this and so does conventional wisdom

But RFA status doesn’t seem to register with Mr Gross so who knows

 

[analyser]

DS trade him as he will not even sign 8 yrs at 8 mil. Very lucrative contract and if he will not budge, move on.

Not the ideal situation but what can you do.

 

[NeelyDan]

Where do we speculate about trade returns?

 

[Chevalier du Clavier]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1840802905667911825

Seems like Korpisalo is in the dark about Montgomery's plan to start him on Opening Night.

 

[BruinDust]

Maybe the answer isn't a bridge deal or a max term deal, but something in between.

5 years, 45 million. 9 million AAV. Brings the AAV up, but the commitment is down.

Swayman gets paid close to the goaltenders he feels he's comparable to right now. Paid in the same stratosphere as McAvoy over that timeframe. 5 years from now he's 30, the cap is 100 million.

If he wants to reset the goalie market then, he can fill his boots, even if it is someplace else.

 

[Aussie Bruin]

I’m going with a bridge. Somewhere 2 to 3 years. Still no more than 8M AAV.
Allows for cool down and each side to show why they think they are nearer to their value.

Yeah fully agree. I don't think Sway has yet proven he's worth any more than 8x8. That's a fair offer in the current circumstances. I believe quite strongly he's going to be a genuine all-star goalie and ultimately worth 9+ p.a., especially with the cap only likely to increase. But he just hasn't done enough to earn that yet, IMO.

So if Sway is sticking to wanting more, and the Bruins are likewise set on their position, a bridge of 2-3 years at good money is probably the best outcome for both parties. Keeps the risk down for the Bruins, and gives Sway a chance to really show what he can do before going for a serious long-term deal. Might mean that Boston risk losing him at that time, but I think they just have to wear that. By the sounds of it, what Jez is seeking right now is just too much to be comfortable with at this point.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

Most of the hockey community: "That was pretty dumb on Neely's part"

Bruins fans: "Kick his ass Sea Bass"

 

[JRull86]

Why isn't there a sitting out option?

Because it makes no sense for him to do so

Loses a year of pay, and is still an RFA since he won't be 27 and therefore UFA eligible yet

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Maybe the answer isn't a bridge deal or a max term deal, but something in between.

5 years, 45 million. 9 million AAV. Brings the AAV up, but the commitment is down.

Swayman gets paid close to the goaltenders he feels he's comparable to right now. Paid in the same stratosphere as McAvoy over that timeframe. 5 years from now he's 30, the cap is 100 million.

If he wants to reset the goalie market then, he can fill his boots, even if it is someplace else.

Why would they pay him $1M more and lose 3 years?

Why would they pay him $9M period?

 

[wintersej]

I’m going with a bridge. Somewhere 2 to 3 years. Still no more than 8M AAV.
Allows for cool down and each side to show why they think they are nearer to their value.

But if its a 2-3 year bridge taking all or all most all RFA years... he can pound f***ing sand when it comes to 8AAV when way more proven guys like Helly ended up with way less even with giving up more UFA years and accounting for the cap going up.

 

[ON3M4N]

One doesn't have to throw numbers out to discuss negotiations, but you keep chasing your tail.

So what specific comments did he make about negotiations with the Bruins?

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Maybe the answer isn't a bridge deal or a max term deal, but something in between.

5 years, 45 million. 9 million AAV. Brings the AAV up, but the commitment is down.

Swayman gets paid close to the goaltenders he feels he's comparable to right now. Paid in the same stratosphere as McAvoy over that timeframe. 5 years from now he's 30, the cap is 100 million.

If he wants to reset the goalie market then, he can fill his boots, even if it is someplace else.

That is the concept with the Matthew's last contract.

However Matthews had leverage and statistics.

$9 for any years is a win only for Swayman. Not the Bruins. Definitely a pass for myself. Insulting in fact if that were Swayman's mindset to win on years and salary.

 

[YukonCornelius]

Maybe the answer isn't a bridge deal or a max term deal, but something in between.

5 years, 45 million. 9 million AAV. Brings the AAV up, but the commitment is down.

Swayman gets paid close to the goaltenders he feels he's comparable to right now. Paid in the same stratosphere as McAvoy over that timeframe. 5 years from now he's 30, the cap is 100 million.

If he wants to reset the goalie market then, he can fill his boots, even if it is someplace else.

There is no universe Swayman deserves $9mm/year at this stage, especially on a shorter term deal.

 

[BamBamCam]

Because it makes no sense for him to do so

Loses a year of pay, and is still an RFA since he won't be 27 and therefore UFA eligible yet

Who says he has a choice?

 

[SwayHeyKid]

Swayman will need to go what Nylander did and talk directly to Sweeney to get this done.

 

[Chevalier du Clavier]

So what specific comments did he make about negotiations with the Bruins?

Again, they're well-documented. You've referenced them several times in multiple threads. We're going around in circles. Simply put, follow Marchand's advice, don't talk about your contract.