Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman -VI President Cam Speaks: Monty, Donny, & Charlie too!

[Gee Wally]

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[Hookslide]

Exactly where I'm at . it where fair really is at.

TO high

 

[UncleRico]

When did Sweeney's job start hinging on a Swayman deal? Has that been brought up anywhere besides this board? If you think Sweeney has been a dick in these negotiations, that should make him a favorite with the Jacobs ownership, no? Bruins should have a top 3 blue line in the league and can survive less than top 5 sv% goaltending.

It’s not, but it does hinge on making the playoffs.

Sure they can survive less than top 5 sv% goaltending without swayman.

However going from the best goalie duo with Ullmark/swayman to arguably a bottom 5 with korpisalo/bussi, could cause them to miss the playoffs.

 

[Dr Quincy]

If Sweeney signs Sway, and overpays at this point in his career and is not capable of doing the job Sweeneys job is in jeopardy.

I must have missed the part where Sweeney lost his job because of overpaying for Backes.

I'd also say that there's a better chance Elias Lindholm's contract looks bad 6 years from now than any deal Swayman signs.

 

[JOKER 192]

TO high

yeah maybe a bit but it's negligible

 

[goldenblack]

If I was the head editor of the Boston Globe, I'd be publishing the Gross Negligence headline tomorrow, lol

 

[Hookslide]

I must have missed the part where Sweeney lost his job because of overpaying for Backes.

I'd also say that there's a better chance Elias Lindholm's contract looks bad 6 years from now than any deal Swayman signs.

I am a BRuins fan first, but I must admit there a few out there you being one of them, that I would love to see Sweeney give him 10mil a year and fall on his face , I do not a injury, should he fail I will wake up every day and haunt f***s so much so that you go into hiding............hahaha

yeah maybe a bit but it's negligible

No! lets stick to high......haha

 

[Pia8988]

Sweeney doesn't need to create an environment where RFAs hold out. Full stop.

They can use arbitration next time.

That already exists here

 

[JOKER 192]

The Hockey News:
"While the Bruins have until Dec. 1 to sign Swayman, it would be disastrous if they started the year without their No. 1."

Will it?

as dangerous as that might be , I'll take the chance.

Here's my take,

Swayman resetting the market , no, you're over evaluating yourself

That you're butt hurt over arbitration , your either spilling the BS your agent told you to spill , or your the dumbest f*** ever.

I take him to Dec 1st, have his agent explain to him thereafter how that was a smart choice.

Next year , your back on the ride.

Meanwhile idiots like Button say Sway has all the cards .

that's the same f*** who convinced the habs to take Kokeniemi over Brady Thakuck

RIDE ON BUTTON , YOU IDIOT

 

[Number8]

Never seen anything like this before as a 50 year Bruin fan. Im done with this player, get rid of him if you can.

He has forever put a target on his back and will be mocked for every shit goal he gives up and will be shredded for not being able to carry the team on his back like a 10m goalie should.

The Bruins or their players will not want to deal with that going forward, he's toast in Boston.

You’re telling me you’ve never seen a Bruins related squabble over a contract since 1974?????????

And you also think the Bruins and Bruins players will turn their back on him?????

Yikes.

Deep breathes, man. Deep breathes. It’s all going to be ok.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

When did Sweeney's job start hinging on a Swayman deal? Has that been brought up anywhere besides this board? If you think Sweeney has been a dick in these negotiations, that should make him a favorite with the Jacobs ownership, no? Bruins should have a top 3 blue line in the league and can survive less than top 5 sv% goaltending.

One could assume they might not make the playoffs with their current goaltending maybe and the GM would be let go.

 

[JOKER 192]

It hasn't, and that wasn't my point. His job doesn't hinge on this deal getting done.

But his job security will very much be impacted by what happens if they don't sign Swayman. If he trades Swayman and Swayman is a Vezina candidate goalie elsewhere that's not great for Don. If the goalies that replace Swayman aren't good that's really bad for Don, too.

All of which is leverage for Swayman now.

all contingent to how that works out .

 

[Nothingbutglass]

One could assume they might not make the playoffs with their current goaltending maybe and the GM would be let go.

I wouldn't assume that. This isn't a playoffs or bust season, and Im not sure you can "assume" Korpi would be a bottom 5 goalie.

 

[Grimey]

 

[Dr Quincy]

I wouldn't assume that. This isn't a playoffs or bust season, and Im not sure you can "assume" Korpi would be a bottom 5 goalie.

Tell that to Brad Marchand. How many more years do you think he has?

 

[Coffee]

Not a Bruins fan but they are my home team regardless, to say I don't care would be lying, those who know the team in and out, what the heck is going on ?

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Tell that to Brad Marchand. How many more years do you think he has?

What? He's 36. He knows what is going on. We made the playoffs last year with 0 top 6 centers on the roster. Now we might have two, and our defense might be the best in the league. People are losing their minds.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

narrator: it isn't

And the organization has just told you as much.

Sweeney has countless more RFAs to sign in the future. He's not setting a very bad precedent here letting bad agents hold the process hostage. You don't cave here because of the next 20 deals. That's all there is to it.

Sway can sit and nuke his career, which is finite. Give it a go kid.

This is never how it works when it comes to the pillars of your team.

 

[Dr Quincy]

What? He's 36. He knows what is going on. We made the playoffs last year with 0 top 6 centers on the roster. Now we might have two, and our defense might be the best in the league. People are losing their minds.

Yes he's 36 with injuries piling up. He has at most 2 years after this one. I didn't say that they wouldn't make the playoffs without Swayman (but it's definitely a possible outcome) just that this year is absolutely 100% playoffs or bust.

Like you said, they just signed Lindholm and Zadorov. Over 12m in free agency and not making the playoffs would be absolute disaster.

Just depends on if you like their chances with Korpisalo or not.

 

[bruins19]

as dangerous as that might be , I'll take the chance.

Here's my take,

Swayman resetting the market , no, you're over evaluating yourself

That you're butt hurt over arbitration , your either spilling the BS your agent told you to spill , or your the dumbest f*** ever.

I take him to Dec 1st, have his agent explain to him thereafter how that was a smart choice.

Next year , your back on the ride.

Meanwhile idiots like Button say Sway has all the cards .

that's the same f*** who convinced the habs to take Kokeniemi over Brady Thakuck

RIDE ON BUTTON , YOU IDIOT

If I recall correctly, when Byron Dafoe was at loggerheads with the Bruins over a contract, he fired his agent and renegotiated his own deal. Front office has accelerated the deadline from December to 8 October. If Korpi stands on his head tonight, that might spark better discussions between the sides with one week left to go. If he sieves out, it is another talk altogether.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Yes he's 36 with injuries piling up. He has at most 2 years after this one. I didn't say that they wouldn't make the playoffs without Swayman (but it's definitely a possible outcome) just that this year is absolutely 100% playoffs or bust.

Like you said, they just signed Lindholm and Zadorov. Over 12m in free agency and not making the playoffs would be absolute disaster.

Just depends on if you like their chances with Korpisalo or not.

We arent building a team around Brad Marchand. Not sure what you are panicking about. Bussi might not be around but we can make the playoffs without Swayman. We have $8.6 million in cap space to figure it out with.

 

[Hookslide]

Yes he's 36 with injuries piling up. He has at most 2 years after this one. I didn't say that they wouldn't make the playoffs without Swayman (but it's definitely a possible outcome) just that this year is absolutely 100% playoffs or bust.

Like you said, they just signed Lindholm and Zadorov. Over 12m in free agency and not making the playoffs would be absolute disaster.

Just depends on if you like their chances with Korpisalo or not.

Marchand, at 36 is recovering from three offseason surgeries, and recently had double hip surgery, and you are saying he has two more years after this one, uuuummm, after mull that one over, but getting back to Sway, the Bruins need a RW, a goal scorer and at any time a Marchand replacement, that is why you pay Swayman, a fair contract but you will need to fill those needs that I have mentioned. But I know you and Sway kid , and others only mission is to sign your boy crush.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

I am a BRuins fan first, but I must admit there a few out there you being one of them, that I would love to see Sweeney give him 10mil a year and fall on his face , I do not a injury, should he fail I will wake up every day and haunt f***s so much so that you go into hiding............hahaha


No! lets stick to high......haha

If we Bruins fans took every bad contract signed to heart nobody would survive. Like I said it's sports, doesn't affect my real life in the least

 

[Hookslide]

If we Bruins fans took every bad contract signed to heart nobody would survive. Like I said it's sports, doesn't affect my real life in the least

Haha..........

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

That already exists here

Yeah all those RFA holdouts. Like…

 

[Pia8988]

Yeah all those RFA holdouts. Like…

Pastrnak
McAvoy
Smith
Krug
Swayman
Carlo

All missed the start of training camp while waiting to be signed as RFAs. I'm sorry facts aren't your forte. Maybe if I start up a podcast and say it.