Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman -V - all still silent

[SwayHeyKid]

He should have fired after the arbitration hearing last year. Regardless of how you feel about the process. It seems Swayman was completely unprepared for what would happen , and that is on his agent.

He knew he would be beat up. Doesn’t mean he had to be ok with it. Maybe he holds grudges. So be it. Swayman paid the price for the cap management the past couple years. Swayman also remember was the odd man out when Tuukka wanted to come back. Everyone can say what they want about Gross and I’m sure it’s warranted but let’s not pretend Bruins management hasn’t been douche canoes either

 

[PlayMakers]

He actually didn't lose anything. The contract was pro rated, meaning he made 10M in the first year. Another way Leafs management pampered the star players

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Pro-rated means part of the whole, i.e. he did lose money for every day he was out. If his salary was $10m and he sat out a quarter of the season then he was only paid $7.5m.

Now, if he was paid the entire first year as a bonus, then that would not have been pro-rated, bonuses are paid in lump-sums, so he would have gotten all his money.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

He knew he would be beat up. Doesn’t mean he had to be ok with it. Maybe he holds grudges. So be it. Swayman paid the price for the cap management the past couple years. Swayman also remember was the odd man out when Tuukka wanted to come back. Everyone can say what they want about Gross and I’m sure it’s warranted but let’s not pretend Bruins management hasn’t been douche canoes either

“Odd man out” - the young goalie who didn’t require waivers got sent down versus the more experienced goalie who was lights out and would have been claimed in a heartbeat?

 

[KillerMillerTime]

It's amazing to me how many people on this board dismiss or devalue the Bruins' win over the Leafs in last year's playoffs, even though most of us agree Swayman was arguably the biggest reason - can you imagine the reaction on this board now if they would have lost?!?

Swayman has a winning record against Carolina in the PO also (3-2). Wouldn't have been a 7th game against Carolina without Swayman.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

“Odd man out” - the young goalie who didn’t require waivers got sent down versus the more experienced goalie who was lights out and would have been claimed in a heartbeat?

That’s not my point. They felt Rask was a better choice then. What is Rask did play well and Swayman spent the rest of the season in the minors. He’s looking out for number 1, just like you or I would in our careers

 

[EverettMike]

Thought exercise only (aka please don't rehash the RFA vs FA thing, we all know they're different and that's not what I am asking):

If Nikita Zadorov is worth X to the Bruins, what do you think Jeremy Swayman is worth and why?

Also X?
X times 1.5?
X times 2?
More? Less?

 

[KrejciMVP]

Holding out bc you are unable to set the goalie market is a horrible career move

 

[EverettMike]

Holding out bc you are unable to set the goalie market is a horrible career move

Lying about what a player has said is a horrible posting move

 

[Pia8988]

Thought exercise only (aka please don't rehash the RFA vs FA thing, we all know they're different and that's not what I am asking):

If Nikita Zadorov is worth X to the Bruins, what do you think Jeremy Swayman is worth and why?

Also X?
X times 1.5?
X times 2?
More? Less?

One sets fear in his opponents. The other will be traded away in 4 years as a dump

 

[Lobster57]

One sets fear in his opponents. The other will be traded away in 4 years as a dump

who's going to want a 33 year old #6 dman making $5M a year?

 

[PB37]

Thought exercise only (aka please don't rehash the RFA vs FA thing, we all know they're different and that's not what I am asking):

If Nikita Zadorov is worth X to the Bruins, what do you think Jeremy Swayman is worth and why?

Also X?
X times 1.5?
X times 2?
More? Less?

Bruins have been in the market for LHD with size for the past few seasons, so I think it's definitely a check list item for them that they finally have. And while I'm not comparing the two results wise, I think the Bruins see the value in Zadorov in how he has similar attributes as Chara and miss that component in their defensive structure - a huge guy that can physically dominant, intimidate, and hit some booming shots in for goals. How that's quantified on paper, I'm not sure.

With Swayman, there may be some hubris involved in thinking that with elite level coaching and defense first teams, they've been able to turn Rask, Thomas, and Ullmark into Vezina winners ( most Vezina wins in the league since 09 I think ) so they may feel that Swayman is benefiting from the system and is set to do so again with a long term deal.

 

[EverettMike]

Bruins have been in the market for LHD with size for the past few seasons, so I think it's definitely a check list item for them that they finally have. And while I'm not comparing the two results wise, I think the Bruins see the value in Zadorov in how he has similar attributes as Chara and miss that component in their defensive structure - a huge guy that can physically dominant, intimidate, and hit some booming shots in for goals. How that's quantified on paper, I'm not sure.

With Swayman, there may be some hubris involved in thinking that with elite level coaching and defense first teams, they've been able to turn Rask, Thomas, and Ullmark into Vezina winners ( most Vezina wins in the league since 09 I think ) so they may feel that Swayman is benefiting from the system and is set to do so again with a long term deal.

Okay, sure, but what about the question I asked? I'm looking for what people think they are worth to the Bruins in terms of actual dollars. I just think it's an interesting way to think about it.