Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman -neither elect arbitration (page 16)

[Bruinswillwin77]

I wonder if Sweeneys low balling him and not budging a dime over 7m and Swaymans like F that, Don.

 

[Hookslide]

I wonder if Sweeneys low balling him and not budging a dime over 7m and Swaymans like F that, Don.

He signs him for 8 leaves them with zero flexibility cap wise, so you can forget any PTO signings and any other moves, unless you want to move someone else out. I also would say they need someone on this roster to take over that RW, position and that also makes it harder to look for a goal scorer at the deadline, or when the chance is there.

 

[analyser]

He signs him for 8 leaves them with zero flexibility cap wise, so you can forget any PTO signings and any other moves, unless you want to move someone else out. I also would say they need someone on this roster to take over that RW, position and that also makes it harder to look for a goal scorer at the deadline, or when the chance is there.

I say F Swayman, accept 6.5 to 7 and at least give the team an opportunity to sign a PTO. You have had success but only over a limited period of time. Are you going to return a few mil if your game goes south?

Be realistic and do not gouge the team just because you have bargaining power with Ullmark gone.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

I say F Swayman, accept 6.5 to 7 and at least give the team an opportunity to sign a PTO. You have had success but only over a limited period of time. Are you going to return a few mil if your game goes south?

Be realistic and do not gouge the team just because you have bargaining power with Ullmark gone.

I think if it was going to be $6.5-$7 he would already have been signed

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I say F Swayman, accept 6.5 to 7 and at least give the team an opportunity to sign a PTO. You have had success but only over a limited period of time. Are you going to return a few mil if your game goes south?

Be realistic and do not gouge the team just because you have bargaining power with Ullmark gone.

I don’t understand this. If you assume the PTO makes the team, you’re looking at $1M salary at most. That PTO ostensibly beat out Lysell. So it’s a negligible cap increase. We don’t need $3M to sign a PTO.

Not sure why so many are eager to sign some PTO, but saying “F Swayman” in order to fit some replacement level player isn’t necessary from a cap space perspective at all.

 

[JAD]

It is Swayman's agent's job to get Swayman the best possible contract for his client. Let's just assume Swayman wants to stay in Boston long-term and they are in the ballpark money wise, there can still be a number of other issues holding up the final contract. Things like: bonuses, no trade no movement, overall length, lockout protection, amongst other things. These things take time to iron out. And I may be wrong but if I remember correctly, the Bruins don't normally like to give lockout protection. And if in the end the final number puts Boston tight against the cap, I am sure they have contingency plans on how to deal with that.

 

[analyser]

I don’t understand this. If you assume the PTO makes the team, you’re looking at $1M salary at most. That PTO ostensibly beat out Lysell. So it’s a negligible cap increase. We don’t need $3M to sign a PTO.

Not sure why so many are eager to sign some PTO, but saying “F Swayman” in order to fit some replacement level player isn’t necessary from a cap space perspective at all.

Even without signing a PTO leave the team a little wiggle room with the Cap should they want to make a move during the season.

I still say F Swayman as he is being a greedy asshole. Sorry his feelings got hurt with last year's arbitration hearing, suck it up and be a man not a baby.

I do not know why a lot of people want to give him all the Cap availability that is left. Remember he is 1 piece of the overall team and not the saviour. 7 mil to me is not what I would call a slap in the face.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Are people so impatient now about a deal not getting done yet that they are saying “F Swayman” ?

These guys don’t grow on trees.

 

[BiteThisBurrows]

Even without signing a PTO leave the team a little wiggle room with the Cap should they want to make a move during the season.

I still say F Swayman as he is being a greedy asshole. Sorry his feelings got hurt with last year's arbitration hearing, suck it up and be a man not a baby.

I do not know why a lot of people want to give him all the Cap availability that is left. Remember he is 1 piece of the overall team and not the saviour. 7 mil to me is not what I would call a slap in the face.

I think it's his agent not him.

Swayman is just going about his life and getting ready for next year and he's left it all in his agent's hands. The agent is going to play hardball right down to the end and if it goes that far I truly believe Swayman will then step in and make a call or two and tell him to accept a number or he might even fire his agent and get a new one.

I'm not worried. It's clear Swayman wants to be here so he will be.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Even without signing a PTO leave the team a little wiggle room with the Cap should they want to make a move during the season.

I still say F Swayman as he is being a greedy asshole. Sorry his feelings got hurt with last year's arbitration hearing, suck it up and be a man not a baby.

I do not know why a lot of people want to give him all the Cap availability that is left. Remember he is 1 piece of the overall team and not the saviour. 7 mil to me is not what I would call a slap in the face.

You have no idea what Swayman is asking for. And if you put the same test to anyone who has signed a market deal - including Pastrnak and McAvoy - then they’re all “greedy assholes”. This seems to be quite an overreaction.

 

[22Brad Park]

That seems reasonable

8 yrs at 7.75 million would be unreal because he is a stud in nets .I am waiting to see finals numbers because he will signed by Bruins soon & not a doubt in my mind.

 

[analyser]

Shesterkin and Demko make around 5 mil or so, why is Swayman worth 8 to 9 mil as some have suggested. He sure is not worth 4 mil more with his current resume.

Demko and Shetsterkin are 28 and 29 and have paid their dues.

Stud? He is a young goalie who has had a couple of good years.

This is my opinion and I am entitled to it. Let's just get it over so the team's overall plans and news can become the main focus and not just 1 individual.

 

[Midship]

Just trade Swayman already if he wants north of 7-7.5M.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Me after a round of fun Golf and making the huge mistake of reading this thread.

 

[UncleRico]

Shesterkin and Demko make around 5 mil or so, why is Swayman worth 8 to 9 mil as some have suggested. He sure is not worth 4 mil more with his current resume.

Demko and Shetsterkin are 28 and 29 and have paid their dues.

Stud? He is a young goalie who has had a couple of good years.

This is my opinion and I am entitled to it. Let's just get it over so the team's overall plans and news can become the main focus and not just 1 individual.

So in 1 year when shesterkin is making $10m+ is swayman worth $5m less than that?

 

[bruinmann77]

I think the bruins looking to keep a little cap flexibility

 

[bobbyorr04]

8 yrs at 7.75 million would be unreal because he is a stud in nets .I am waiting to see finals numbers because he will signed by Bruins soon & not a doubt in my mind.

I guessed Swayman will get around 8 X 8, and that's not unreasonable considering Rask was signed for 7 X 7 a long time ago.

 

[analyser]

So in 1 year when shesterkin is making $10m+ is swayman worth $5m less than that?

Give him a good raise not the whole friggin pot of gold. Be realistic is your boss going to say your doing a great for a while now so I will double your salary.

I do not think Sweeney will just cave in to all demands. Bad pattern to set when you will always be dealing with FAs.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Give him a good raise not the whole friggin pot of gold. Be realistic is your boss going to say your doing a great for a while now so I will double your salary.

I do not think Sweeney will just cave in to all demands. Bad pattern to set when you will always be dealing with FAs.

You post like I spit. All over the place.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I don’t understand this. If you assume the PTO makes the team, you’re looking at $1M salary at most. That PTO ostensibly beat out Lysell. So it’s a negligible cap increase. We don’t need $3M to sign a PTO.

Not sure why so many are eager to sign some PTO, but saying “F Swayman” in order to fit some replacement level player isn’t necessary from a cap space perspective at all.

You are correct. The Bruins can certainly still bring in a PTO, because if one were to make the team someone with a similar contract would get buried in the minors

 

[UncleRico]

Give him a good raise not the whole friggin pot of gold. Be realistic is your boss going to say your doing a great for a while now so I will double your salary.

I do not think Sweeney will just cave in to all demands. Bad pattern to set when you will always be dealing with FAs.

Not sure about your job, but If I were to be a “free agent” in my line of work, there wouldn’t be at least 10 other organizations lining up to double my salary as would be swaymans case in a year

 

[PlayMakers]

Every time I see the Swayman thread at the top of the board with UPDATE in all caps, I think there is actually an update.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Even without signing a PTO leave the team a little wiggle room with the Cap should they want to make a move during the season.

I still say F Swayman as he is being a greedy asshole. Sorry his feelings got hurt with last year's arbitration hearing, suck it up and be a man not a baby.

I do not know why a lot of people want to give him all the Cap availability that is left. Remember he is 1 piece of the overall team and not the saviour. 7 mil to me is not what I would call a slap in the face.

Sweeney felt it was more important to overpay Lindholm and Zadorov over getting his franchise goalie signed. You can agree or disagree with that strategy, but it's not Swayman's fault that Sweeney made that decision, and it's not being greedy.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Sweeney felt it was more important to overpay Lindholm and Zadorov over getting his franchise goalie signed. You can agree or disagree with that strategy, but it's not Swayman's fault that Sweeney made that decision, and it's not being greedy.

I don’t get this.

Zadorov and Lindholm had deadlines of July 1 - letting them go past day 1 and you almost certainly lose them.

Swayman’s deadline is still quite far in the future.

You’re saying Sweeney didn’t value signing Swayman as much as signing free agents. I don’t understand that leap?

 

[Dr Quincy]

Just trade Swayman already if he wants north of 7-7.5M.

Just fire Sweeney if he traded his Vezina winning goalie for a cap dump and a 1st without having his franchise goalie already under contract.

(That said, the deal will get done and it will be north of 7m)