Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman IV - even more nothing

[GordonHowe]

You can literally say that about any signing. What if Lindholm comes in and continues his decline in production? What if Zadorov continues his decline in hit totals? Using your logic, no team should ever sign anyone.

No team should ever sign anyone.

 

[Clode]

If Swayman holds out and the Bs miss the playoffs what are the odds Sweeney loses his job?

 

[UncleRico]

If Swayman holds out and the Bs miss the playoffs what are the odds Sweeney loses his job?

If the bruins miss the playoffs it’s almost guaranteed he will lose his job, with that said I don’t think they will miss the playoffs. There is just too sizable of a gap right now with the bottom half the league

Only needed 91 points to make the playoffs last year in the east.

Though I do believe going from swayman/Ullmark to korpisalo/bussi would drop us from 109 to the mid to high 90s in point total

 

[SwayHeyKid]

If Swayman holds out and the Bs miss the playoffs what are the odds Sweeney loses his job?

well he did win one first round the past three years so that probably gives him an extra decade of security

If the bruins miss the playoffs it’s almost guaranteed he will lose his job, with that said I don’t think they will miss the playoffs. There is just too sizable of a gap right now with the bottom half the league

Only needed 91 points to make the playoffs last year in the east.

Though I do believe going from swayman/Ullmark to korpisalo/bussi would drop us from 109 to the mid to high 90s in point total

Agreed. The team as a whole is just too good IMO. I actually love the makeup of the team, but would like the young phenom back there.

Nope thats not what he said either.

Swayman was awarded a one-year, $3.48-million contract in arbitration last year. As a restricted free agent again in 2024, Swayman's in prime position for a bigger deal. He emerged as the Bruins' No. 1 netminder last season, and Boston, which currently has over $8 million in cap space, traded goaltender Linus Ullmark over the summer.

"And the answer I'm going to give you this year is that I've educated myself and that I understand the business side of it all," Swayman added. "It's given me a complete new mindset of understanding the business and how to react to it. I understand the cap is going up, and where it will be in years. I understand my comparables, and how I can't ruin the goalie market for other guys that are going to be in my shoes down the line."

He said he doesn't want to ruin the goalie market. So hes saying he doesn't want to take a hometown discount because he feels it will put pressure on other goalies to also take hometowns discounts when their organization says " well swayman took a hometown discount".

translated by the front office groupies as 8/80.

 

[Hookslide]

If Swayman holds out and the Bs miss the playoffs what are the odds Sweeney loses his job?

Sweeney will not get fired for not signing Swayman, but he would deserve to get fired for signing Elias Ullmark if he does not live up to his contract and that is a very real possibility.

 

[Chevalier du Clavier]

Sweeney will not get fired for not signing Swayman, but he would deserve to get fired for signing Elias Ullmark if he does not live up to his contract and that is a very real possibility.

Who?

 

[Hookslide]

Who?

You got me, haha ......sorry Elias Lindholm.

 

[wintersej]

No team should ever sign anyone.

It is kinda funny. Stars and guys who perform on their ELC are steals. The middle class guys tend to be bad value. But building a team of stars and ELC guys isn’t actually viable in real life. No team can keep that ELC pipeline going. So you gotta fill in with middle class guys. Just gotta commit to the right ones.

 

[ranold26]

All aboard the Kasimir Kaskisuo train......

 

[wintersej]

If Swayman holds out and the Bs miss the playoffs what are the odds Sweeney loses his job?

If Swayman holds out to Dec 1st the Bruins will have played 25 games. Korpisalo going from starting 8 games to 15 games in that time period ain’t gonna make or break this team as long as Bussi is not a complete tire fire.

If Swayman holds out beyond that, which obviously won’t happen, you have to think it would be an organizational choice not to give in. In which case, I don’t think it’s only Sweeney that would get the axe.

 

[PB37]

If the bruins miss the playoffs it’s almost guaranteed he will lose his job, with that said I don’t think they will miss the playoffs. There is just too sizable of a gap right now with the bottom half the league

Only needed 91 points to make the playoffs last year in the east.

Though I do believe going from swayman/Ullmark to korpisalo/bussi would drop us from 109 to the mid to high 90s in point total

What a stroke of sheer luck it would be if Bussi ends up being the real deal or at the very least, a capable netminder to the point spending 8-9 million on a goaltender isn't needed and they get some good assets for Swayman. Way too much of a gamble to take though - getting him signed is probably the difference between a top seeding vs wild card spot if he isn't.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Sweeney will not get fired for not signing Swayman, but he would deserve to get fired for signing Elias Ullmark if he does not live up to his contract and that is a very real possibility.

The most coveted UFA this summer?

Cap hit isn’t crazy and Lindholm could have had that same offer from 15-20 teams.

 

[Chevalier du Clavier]

You got me, haha ......sorry Elias Lindholm.

Not trying to get ya. Wasn't sure who you were referring to.

 

[Number8]

This thread is wildly amusing. Yes, it’s a dumpster fire, but amusing nonetheless.

 

[UncleRico]

What a stroke of sheer luck it would be if Bussi ends up being the real deal or at the very least, a capable netminder to the point spending 8-9 million on a goaltender isn't needed and they get some good assets for Swayman. Way too much of a gamble to take though - getting him signed is probably the difference between a top seeding vs wild card spot if he isn't.

I’ll gladly take swayman back in the 8s. All star goalie who was our best player in the playoffs.

granted I think it’s extremely dumb to have a top 5 paid goalie and a top 5 paid backup goalie. That is a serious lapse of judgement by management. If you have a top 5 paid goalie you should be able to make up some of the cost with an average back up at average pay. I don’t blame swayman for managements mistake there though.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

All aboard the Kasimir Kaskisuo train......

Bruins have goalie Bob. He. Korpi and Bussi should finish 1-3 in the Vezina voting

 

[themilosh]

If Swayman holds out and the Bs miss the playoffs what are the odds Sweeney loses his job?

If im Sweeny, i go down on the sword.. Bruins are easily good enough to make playoffs.. even with Swayman, Bruins arent winning the cup, so who cares - might as well join in with a chip and a chair.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

I’ll gladly take swayman back in the 8s. All star goalie who was our best player in the playoffs.

granted I think it’s extremely dumb to have a top 5 paid goalie and a top 5 paid backup goalie. That is a serious lapse of judgement by management. If you have a top 5 paid goalie you should be able to make up some of the cost with an average back up at average pay. I don’t blame swayman for managements mistake there though.

Right but if Swayman isn’t signed and Korpisalo is good that contract becomes a steal and we get 2 more years.

Might as well see if we can get high end goaltending on the cheap and if not maybe then cave to Swaymans demands.

Regardless I’m way less of a fan of him today than I was a few days/weeks ago.

 

[GordonHowe]

It is kinda funny. Stars and guys who perform on their ELC are steals. The middle class guys tend to be bad value. But building a team of stars and ELC guys isn’t actually viable in real life. No team can keep that ELC pipeline going. So you gotta fill in with middle class guys. Just gotta commit to the right ones.

Therein lies the issue.

Still appears that they pay the big contracts for the big boys and sign all manner of forgive, bottom feeders.

It's the middle class that gets squeezed. I think. Maybe that has changed,

 

[UncleRico]

Right but if Swayman isn’t signed and Korpisalo is good that contract becomes a steal and we get 2 more years.

Might as well see if we can get high end goaltending on the cheap and if not maybe then cave to Swaymans demands.

Regardless I’m way less of a fan of him today than I was a few days/weeks ago.

Ya “if “ korpisalo is good, is a very big if.

Korpisalo as the starting goaltender has a much higher probability of being a disaster than a steal.

He’s a 30 year old goaltender who has played 40+ games 1 time in his career and he was one of the worst goalies in the league.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Right but if Swayman isn’t signed and Korpisalo is good that contract becomes a steal and we get 2 more years.

Might as well see if we can get high end goaltending on the cheap and if not maybe then cave to Swaymans demands.

Regardless I’m way less of a fan of him today than I was a few days/weeks ago.

Just throwing darts to land on a opinion

 

[Dr Quincy]

Right but if Swayman isn’t signed and Korpisalo is good that contract becomes a steal and we get 2 more years.

Might as well see if we can get high end goaltending on the cheap and if not maybe then cave to Swaymans demands.

Regardless I’m way less of a fan of him today than I was a few days/weeks ago.

I think in general a team should never say "What if we got rid of good players and replaced them with far less talented players?"

Ya “if “ korpisalo is good, is a very big if.

Korpisalo as the starting goaltender has a much higher probability of being a disaster than a steal.

He’s a 30 year old goaltender who has played 40+ games 1 time in his career and he was one of the worst goalies in the league.

Hey if we replaced Pasta w/ Max Jones and Jones scored 40 goals, we'd get 40 goals for 1m instead of 11.25m.

 

[Bruinator]

Calgary, Utah and San Jose. Utah should be all in. If they ever found a taker for Weber they could blow the doors off, as of now could go 9 mil per, maybe more if they move a goalie.

Calgary and San Jose have 2 of the best young goalies on the planet. lol Utah has no money

 

[shelbysdad]

Calgary and San Jose have 2 of the best young goalies on the planet. lol Utah has no money

Puckpedia says they have 9.9 M cap space

 

[Over the volcano]

All aboard the Kasimir Kaskisuo train......

Toot toot!