So deals signed in 2018 should be the benchmark for a deal signed in 2024?
Only sport where a deal signed 6 years ago is the benchmark for today.
I mean how many elite young goalies get signed every year? Is Shesterkin 4x5.6 recent enough?
So deals signed in 2018 should be the benchmark for a deal signed in 2024?
Only sport where a deal signed 6 years ago is the benchmark for today.
I’m with youI have to admit the entertainment value of this thread has been fantastic
I mean how many elite young goalies get signed every year? Is Shesterkin 4x5.6 recent enough?
@NeelyDan id like to submit this as post of the year please.Hopefully one of the Canadian reporters or the Empty Net guys report Sweeney offered Sway 8 years @ 5 M and mailed it with a pizza stain on it, and the 5 was 5.5 but the second 5 was whited out
What is considered reasonable as their are many opinions on what he is worth. I am sure their is quite a difference on what number Sway and DS have in mind.Why don't the Bruins simply just sign Swayman to a reasonable contract?
are they stupid?
I agree, but this is the number that gets it done within reason, IMHO. The cap went up, finally after paying back the COVID kitty. Salaries were somewhat stagnant for 4 years. This is a reasonable ask based on investment in a probable franchise player.That just so much higher than any of the recent elite goalies have gotten, even adjusted by cap hit percentage. I don’t buy it.
I'm curious what's an agent's percentage these days?I don’t understand all the angst towards an agent trying to get his client what he deserves? I mean we all watch hockey for the players no? Is 1-1.5 mil more for a core piece a big deal? There has been more angst shown to Swayman for trying to get his than taking on a horrible contract in Korpisalo.
Core piece, long term fixture, 25 year old goalie who has the balls and moxie to bring this team places. 8x6 is insulting not negotiating
Last year first who #37 and it showed.For sure. Mac also needs to play t
within his capabilities He's no Makar or Hughes......but he thinks he is.
Chuck was playing better in 2019 than he is now.
Hard to win when you lose most of your defensive zone start FO'sLast year first who #37 and it showed.
Grez had literally 7-10 games all year where he maxed out his PMD skills. The rest he was bailing out on in his own end. U will be getting max effort 85% of the time in is own end from Zadorov.Is it though? We won’t know until they actually play. And how much does the situation in net impact that? Lots of unknowns as of now.
Off his ELC. The Bruins chose to do a shorter bridge. Should have offered him 4 years last season, but they couldn't because of someones incompetence. So here we are.
Actually the first 4 years of the 90's were damn good. 1 SCF and 3 ECF in a row with a great 92-93 RS before the MAY DAY disaster.Damn you to hell.
Seeing those names, and others, might make drink. I won’t. But jeeeeesh!
I was trying to get sober in the early nineties. Hard fought battle. One that was NOT made easier by Bruins teams in the 90, nor those players.
Bruins defense should dominate middle of ice and transition well
Leach will be a good teacher for Louhri and Peeke.
One of the reasons I’d certainly go 8 with the Swaychise is with his Uber skillset and that defense, the addition of EL overall game, Sway is going to put up Buffalo’ Hasek numbers next few years
I’m expecting 8 yrs starting first year at 6 M and high numbers at 10 M at end
Swayman and Boston is a great match in so many ways ~ both should be focused on a long deal
So what was%?Hard to win when you lose most of your defensive zone start FO's
Hasek was elite of elite and I'd pay him. The Swayman get paid campaign is trying to say he's that guy but odds are he isn't
I'm not all over the place. I know OHL stats aren't usable in arbitration and wasn't suggesting they were. You were challenging Swayman's "true facts" statement, I believe taking what he said overly literal as opposed to what he meant. The B's, as is their right, cherrypicked certain stats to make their case. That's fine, and the stats themselves are true.You are all over the place Doc.
I was talking arbitration and you brought up OHL stats. Those are not admisable stats.
Anyway, I'm just gonna go back to reading this thread. It was more entertaining that way.
I have always believed Swayman should get paid and will go back to waiting to see how it turns out. Just not going to debate all the rumors of which none have been verified to this point.
Always remember the quote from the movie North Dallas 40 uttered by John Matuszak, complaining about the coach and front office:I don’t understand all the angst towards an agent trying to get his client what he deserves? I mean we all watch hockey for the players no? Is 1-1.5 mil more for a core piece a big deal? There has been more angst shown to Swayman for trying to get his than taking on a horrible contract in Korpisalo.
Core piece, long term fixture, 25 year old goalie who has the balls and moxie to bring this team places. 8x6 is insulting not negotiating
They could have chosen the 2 year option during last year's arbitration. That would have left them enough $ to still sign Lindholm, Zadorov and 1 other decent F.I agree, but this is the number that gets it done within reason, IMHO. The cap went up, finally after paying back the COVID kitty. Salaries were somewhat stagnant for 4 years. This is a reasonable ask based on investment in a probable franchise player.
It's around the same $ Tuukka got early in his career. (yes Rask was 1st rounder and had that 2010 season where he easily could have won the Vezina)
Now anything over that is just greed on Team Swayman.
It's a number that shows goodwill from both parties.
I'd love it to come in under 7M, but I don't see that compromise happening.
I'm curious what's an agent's percentage these days?
View attachment 905735 I kid, I kid!
An overlook fact is, if the Bruins weren't in self-imposed Cap Hell, last year, they probably would have, or tried to get a 3-4 year bridge deal done at around 5M. But we all know how the cap mismanagement (bad drafting included) brought us to this point.
Why don't the Bruins simply just sign Swayman to a reasonable contract?
are they stupid?
I think he is going to be - but he doesn’t have track yetHasek was elite of elite and I'd pay him. The Swayman get paid campaign is trying to say he's that guy but odds are he isn't
So what was%?
They didn't because he would have been a FA, not an RFA coming out of it.They could have chosen the 2 year option during last year's arbitration. That would have left them enough $ to still sign Lindholm, Zadorov and 1 other decent F.
But they didn't. They chose 1 year, meaning here we are now.
Oh seriously ….that May Day series where Bob Sweeney ruined the Bruins as a Sabres was top 5 toughestActually the first 4 years of the 90's were damn good. 1 SCF and 3 ECF in a row with a great 92-93 RS before the MAY DAY disaster.
If the dude pulled off what the st Louis goalie did in 2019 winning a cup but a rd vs toronto is all his team can't point toThe Cap freeze screwed Swayman over int terms of not getting a great 2nd, bridge, contract. Debrusk's 1st extension, Charlie's 1st extension, etc(all the B's youngin's went through this, Carlo, Gryz, etc)
He is just in that no man's land of not having fully proved it to get the "franchise" tag.
I have to think most of us expect him to be that franchise goalie, but him and his team to use bitterness of arbitration over the reality that he hasn't fully proven he is a 60+ game(inc PO's) guy, is disingenuous on his part.
He had 1 fantastic run in the playoffs, we've seen this before, and have it disappear. His post All Star game slump is the sobering stat that SHOULD give everyone pause that he has just a little more to prove. I'm glad his confidence has him chest beating that he is just as good as the other top goalies in the league. He just hasn't done it as long or as consistently (he will, just hasn't been around long enough)
They didn't because he would have been a FA, not an RFA coming out of it.