Jeremy Roenick, Shea Weber and Pavel Datsyuk inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame

Sampe from the 2000s

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Just for fun, I also looked at the stats and achievements of Zetterberg and Elias:

Patrik Elias: 1402.453+697=1150 (76th best all-time)
Elias had a long career with a relatively short yet impressive offensive prime. He was top 50 in total points only 8 times, although Hepatitis A likely prevented him from achieving one such finish when he was at his best. Yet he made the top 10 in scoring more often than either Mogilny or Roenick:
Total goals 4.5-4.5-8.5-27.5-29.5-34-36 (next best: 76.5 twice)
Total assists: 5.5-9-16.5-21.5-21.5-32.5 (next best: 2 x borderline top 50)
Total points: 3-6-9.5-9.5-29.5-37.5-38 (next best: once in the 41-50 range; then tied 54th)

Years 1999-2001 were undoubtedly the peak of his career. First he led the Stanley Cup champion in total points (6th in the league) and the entire league in playoff assists (alongside Brett Hull & Mike Modano). The following season he placed third in the league in total points (3rd in RS points, tied 2nd in playoff points). Ahead of him were two pretty good players in Joe Sakic and Jaromir Jagr. For the latter season he was rewarded with a place in the 1st All Star team. He also came 6th in the Hart and 8th in the Selke voting. And let's not forget the other Stanley Cup either. If Elias' 00-01 season is not quite on par with Roenick's 91-92 or Mogilny's 92-93, it's at least close. And the second best season is more than a match for both of them. Plus he provided better 2-way game than Mogilny. Seems to me like Elias should have been ahead of at least Mogilny, and probably Roenick as well.

Henrik Zetterberg: 1219.394+686=1080 (103rd best all-time)
The career totals may not look impressive at first sight, but they are misleading. Zetterberg made the top 35 in total points a whopping 10 times. Now injuries only robbed of him of another top 50 place (and likely much better) once, and he struggled to make the top 100 in any other season. His goalscoring in particular was very modest in those less amazing offensive years. But the peak is once again super impressive:
Total goals 3–10.5–10.5–17–35.5 (next best: tied 50th)
Total assists 3–6.5–9–12–13–17–18–19 (next best: tied 50th)
Total points 4–5.5–8.5–9–23–25–26–29–31–33.5 (next best: tied 100th)

Zetterberg's peak season was 2007-08, when he placed 3rd in total goals and 4th in total points just like Roenick back in 91-92. And just like with Roenick, the players ahead of him were pretty good: Malkin, Ovehckin, and Datsyuk. But while Datsyuk outscored him by a single point, Zetterberg had the better point/game average. Plus unlike Roenick he actually won the finals vs. the Penguins and led the playoffs in both goals and points, earning the Conn Smythe. This is then easily the best offensive year of the four candidates. And I haven't even talked about the 2-way game (Zetterberg was a Selke finalist that year) or the Triple Gold Club. As good as Elias and Roenick were, Zetterberg was better. And I'm saying this as someone who severely underrated him early on in his career: he should have been inducted already.
 

ghostingtaro

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had to look up webers stats

so why is he getting inducted in the HOF?

hes never won a cup or the norris
 

Fantomas

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Weber deserves this one. No Norris, but same is true of Brad Park. Sometimes them's the breaks.
 

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