News Article: Jeremy Jacobs : Firing coach Claude Julien was ‘overdue’

[duffy]

He was asked the question about what his feelings were about Julien's firing and his thoughts on the hiring of Cassidy. I don't see anything wrong with anything he said. We praise Cassidy for being candid - which is exactly what Jacobs was doing here.

Exactly! This board is always crapping on the Bruins FO for beating around the bush when asked tough questions, and now some of us are crapping on them for answering them honestly!
What is it you want? I don't think he said anything derogatory or mean, just that it was overdue, which is the way that most of us agreed with. I believed the Clode should have followed Chiapet out the door and if the new rules for draft pick compensation were in place and if the Jacobs new how fast another team would suck up Closes salary he probably would have joined Chiapet.

 

[duffy]

Not as overdue as a change in ownership.

I would usually agree with this whole heartedly but you just have to look at what's going on in Buffalo and what has gone on in Vancouver and Long island with the Asian ownership to see what happens when Know Nothing ownership puts it's 2 cents into hockey related matters!
It's the old saying - be careful what you wish for!
At least for the most part in the last 10 years or so the Mr Burns clan have stayed out of the hockey decision side of the Bruins and allows the GM spend to the cap.

 

[ODAAT]

He shouldn't say anything. It was already done, no need for input on the subject. Comes across as a jerk.

I don`t get it, fans here would be the first on him for "saying nothing" if he hadn`t of answered the question or done so in a roundabout way.

Look, I would prefer anyone with the last name Jacob`s never stood before a camera or microphone ever again as they both appear terribly uncomfortable but there he was, and he spoke his mind and he said the very thing that many, and I mean many here said, overdue change

It was merely a decade or so ago where I would have been happy to take the keys for the front doors of the TD from that family I was so disgusted with ownership (and management for that matter) but there was a shift (not unlike the Hawks), ownership took on a different approach, started to spend and often that spending was right to the cap<<< ironically it`s what has led to some of their recent issues over the last 3 years but that`s for another thread.

I didn`t see the consistent parade of off season contract squabbles I used to, I didn`t see/hear/read about the constant dysfunction of the organization. Doesn`t mean I`ve always been happy with the team or decisions made from the top down, but for me to complain about the Jacob`s family these days, if I`m comparing to their approach a short time ago, it would simply be nitpicking

Are they perfect? Nope, but there are more than a few fan bases out there who I`d suggest wouldn`t mind having owners like these, still doesn`t mean I want them to speak ever again though

 

[KrejciMVP]

I know were supposed to feel sorry for Charlie and his awkward pressers, but at some point is it fair to expect basic competence out of someone in such a high position?

Then I cringed when Jacob's Sr mentioned a Jacob's dynasty. Help

 

[GloryDaze4877]

I know were supposed to feel sorry for Charlie and his awkward pressers, but at some point is it fair to expect basic competence out of someone in such a high position?

Public speaking skills have zero to do with overall job competency. Some people just can't do it, but he could be very good at the rest of his job.

As a couple of other posters have already said, this place is ridiculous with their double standards. If an owner like Kraft said something like that about a coach, people would be applauding his directness and loving that he was a "fan" before he was an owner.

 

[Gee Wally]

I know were supposed to feel sorry for Charlie and his awkward pressers, but at some point is it fair to expect basic competence out of someone in such a high position?

Then I cringed when Jacob's Sr mentioned a Jacob's dynasty. Help

One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

Nothing.

 

[talkinaway]

Public speaking skills have zero to do with overall job competency. Some people just can't do it, but he could be very good at the rest of his job.

As a couple of other posters have already said, this place is ridiculous with their double standards. If an owner like Kraft said something like that about a coach, people would be applauding his directness and loving that he was a "fan" before he was an owner.

If part of the job actually IS public speaking, then it is kind of relevant...and I'd say being the CEO of a company that owns the Bruins does entail public speaking as part of the job. If Charlie says something really stupid, or doesn't appear concerned about the same things that fans are (even if he really is working hard for the fans), then his company doesn't do as well, because some fans will walk away. Conversely, if he wraps a turd in a nice package, people might buy it. (In fact, some would argue that's exactly what the Bruins have been doing.)

That's not to say that there aren't significant non-public speaking parts to his job....in fact, that's probably the meat and potatoes of what he does on a daily basis. But we don't see that...we see him the 2-4 times per year he talks, and it's basically a dookiestorm every time he does. (For the record, I haven't watched this one yet, but I trust my previous experience and Fenway's expert analysis.)

Yes, sizzle doesn't feed you like the steak does. But it gets you to order the steak.

As far as papa Jacobs...does anyone else find his quote about the Bruins being a "wonderful property" a bit odd? It makes the Bruins sound like a timeshare in Florida that his family visits every year.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

If part of the job actually IS public speaking, then it is kind of relevant...and I'd say being the CEO of a company that owns the Bruins does entail public speaking as part of the job. If Charlie says something really stupid, or doesn't appear concerned about the same things that fans are (even if he really is working hard for the fans), then his company doesn't do as well, because some fans will walk away. Conversely, if he wraps a turd in a nice package, people might buy it. (In fact, some would argue that's exactly what the Bruins have been doing.)

That's not to say that there aren't significant non-public speaking parts to his job....in fact, that's probably the meat and potatoes of what he does on a daily basis. But we don't see that...we see him the 2-4 times per year he talks, and it's basically a dookiestorm every time he does. (For the record, I haven't watched this one yet, but I trust my previous experience and Fenway's expert analysis.)

Yes, sizzle doesn't feed you like the steak does. But it gets you to order the steak.

As far as papa Jacobs...does anyone else find his quote about the Bruins being a "wonderful property" a bit odd? It makes the Bruins sound like a timeshare in Florida that his family visits every year.

You yourself just said it. Charlie speaks publicly maybe 3/4 times all year.

For all we know, he's good at the rest of the job, which appears to be 99% of it. The poster I responded to said that Charlie was incompetent because he's not a good public speaker. There is no correlation between the two things.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Of course theres a whole thread devoted to how well Cassidy speaks to the media in the i hate Habs thread. Yes I know. One has nothing to do with the other lol

 

[Ben Grimm]

If part of the job actually IS public speaking,..

It's not. Most owners in major league sports don't speak to the media about their team. They have the entire team staffs for that. We can't even name most of them. Now someone will list the minority such as Mark Cuban.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Of course theres a whole thread devoted to how well Cassidy speaks to the media in the i hate Habs thread. Yes I know. One has nothing to do with the other lol

Coach talks to media after every game, and it's still not a necessity, it's a bonus lol

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

If you are going to judge someone's intelligence on their public speaking then you must think Winston Churchill was an idiot.

 

[KrejciMVP]

If you are going to judge someone's intelligence on their public speaking then you must think Winston Churchill was an idiot.

If Charlie was a great speaker we'd be praising him for it but since he's not its not important in this circumstance.

 

[Therick67]

I'm not even sure why they are speaking at this point, was anyone waiting to hear what JJ or Charlie had to say?

Also, I'd say that he's not just being judged on how he says it, but what he says. If you got nothing to say and don't say it well, then don't bother.

 

[Gee Wally]

If Charlie was a great speaker we'd be praising him for it but since he's not its not important in this circumstance.

do not speak for me.

'we'd'

I've been in the business world longer than you've been here on earth. In those decades it is without doubt not a correlation of how well one speaks and his/her ability to perform their job. Be it stutter, lisp, cleft pallet, MS, Parkinson, accent, nerves, stroke or anything else for that matter.

I've also seen great speakers. Some of whom I'd never buy a car from while others have ended up in jail.

Again , one has nothing to do with the other.

 

[chizzler]

I don`t get it, fans here would be the first on him for "saying nothing" if he hadn`t of answered the question or done so in a roundabout way.

Look, I would prefer anyone with the last name Jacob`s never stood before a camera or microphone ever again as they both appear terribly uncomfortable but there he was, and he spoke his mind and he said the very thing that many, and I mean many here said, overdue change

It was merely a decade or so ago where I would have been happy to take the keys for the front doors of the TD from that family I was so disgusted with ownership (and management for that matter) but there was a shift (not unlike the Hawks), ownership took on a different approach, started to spend and often that spending was right to the cap<<< ironically it`s what has led to some of their recent issues over the last 3 years but that`s for another thread.

I didn`t see the consistent parade of off season contract squabbles I used to, I didn`t see/hear/read about the constant dysfunction of the organization. Doesn`t mean I`ve always been happy with the team or decisions made from the top down, but for me to complain about the Jacob`s family these days, if I`m comparing to their approach a short time ago, it would simply be nitpicking

Are they perfect? Nope, but there are more than a few fan bases out there who I`d suggest wouldn`t mind having owners like these, still doesn`t mean I want them to speak ever again though

I prefer him not saying anything. He usually makes a blunder when he talks. I also am not one of those fans that need to know everything in the FO. Something's are common sense and something's shouldn't be said. When the Bruins don't tell people things, they get roasted but when the patriots do the same, the are hailed.

I thought it was a good presser. Jeremy didn't come off as bad as I thought when I read the quote. I didn't know there was a presser yesterday and also didn't see the video.

 

[Concessionaire]

I like to get pissed off at the ownership as much as the next fan, but Jacobs' comments about the coaching change weren't very controversial from my perspective. Nearly all NHL coaches get stale at some point, and to me Jacobs was just acknowledging that he and management were a bit slow to recognize it was time to move on from a great coach whose effectiveness in Boston was at an end.

 

[Number8]

He shouldn't say anything. It was already done, no need for input on the subject. Comes across as a jerk.

Absolutely. It was done and over.

This guy can't help himself. He is obviously bright, but more times than not when he says things he creates problems or angst. He can do whatever he wants with his organization -- but if he wants to avoid looking like a total jerk I'd suggest he be a silent owner with regards to the fans.

 

[Number8]

Absolutely. It was done and over.

This guy can't help himself. He is obviously bright, but more times than not when he says things he creates problems or angst. He can do whatever he wants with his organization -- but if he wants to avoid looking like a total jerk I'd suggest he be a silent owner with regards to the fans.

OK..... lessons learned for Number8.

1) Watch the video when it's available.
2) Don't jump to conclusions reading transcripts of spoken words.

I've watchd the press conference now, and his words were ok. Maybe not as deftly handled as I think it could have been, but I was wrong.

I will freely admit that I do not like Mr. Jacobs as an owner. Been a fan since 1970 and I have more than enough personal justification for that position.

That said, I let my predisposition color my kneejerk reaction in this case. I was wrong.

 

[Hali33]

I agree, the video was not as bad as seeing the quote. Just seems there's a number of times the organization has taken an extra shot at a guy once he's out the door and thought it was happening again.

 

[Seidenbergy]

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I've been in the business world longer than you've been here on earth. In those decades it is without doubt not a correlation of how well one speaks and his/her ability to perform their job. Be it stutter, lisp, cleft pallet, MS, Parkinson, accent, nerves, stroke or anything else for that matter.

For some jobs (like Jacobs')? Sure. But for the 30+% of the US population that work in sales, retail, customer service or teaching? There is most definitely a correlation.

 

[bruins309]

Funny how Jacobs used the phrase "misplaced loyalty" given that Jeremy is the guy who kept Harry Sinden employed about 15-20 years after his expiration date.

 

[Therick67]

Funny how Jacobs used the phrase "misplaced loyalty" given that Jeremy is the guy who kept Harry Sinden employed about 15-20 years after his expiration date.

I wish he had the same loyalty to the fans..

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

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[RustyBruins72]

do not speak for me.

'we'd'

I've been in the business world longer than you've been here on earth. In those decades it is without doubt not a correlation of how well one speaks and his/her ability to perform their job. Be it stutter, lisp, cleft pallet, MS, Parkinson, accent, nerves, stroke or anything else for that matter.

I've also seen great speakers. Some of whom I'd never buy a car from while others have ended up in jail.

Again , one has nothing to do with the other.

I remember seeing a person on TV who had a terrible stutter. Really bad. But there they were, on TV, talking about what he did for a living.

And once this guy started doing his job, you forgot all about the stutter.

His job? Country Music singer.

The chaps name was Mel Tillis. For those younger folks, google him and see how bad it was and how well he could sing.

"And now you know, the rest of the story......"