Confirmed with Link: Jenner signs 2 year extension

[Kev22]

First let me preface my comment by saying that I don't think Boone Jenner is the same type of player as Mark Messier. But, watching him during the postgame show, I swear Boone sounds like and carries himself just like Mark Messier.

I've long held that Dubinsky should be the captain, but really my opinion has changed over the course of the year. Boone really should be the captain of the team. He's got the experience of being a captain and it's pretty obvious that he's a leader and respected greatly by his teammates.

 

[KJ Dangler]

First let me preface my comment by saying that I don't think Boone Jenner is the same type of player as Mark Messier. But, watching him during the postgame show, I swear Boone sounds like and carries himself just like Mark Messier.

I've long held that Dubinsky should be the captain, but really my opinion has changed over the course of the year. Boone really should be the captain of the team. He's got the experience of being a captain and it's pretty obvious that he's a leader and respected greatly by his teammates.

From all accounts, Boone has carried himself this way, since he arrived here. Had it not been for his injury ridden season last year, we probably wouldnt have Foligno as current captain. So, interesting question becomes, does Torts make the change ? Theres no denying that Folignos season has been brutal this year, and Torts called out that leadership many times when he arrived here. Could we see Foligno potentially moved this offseason ?

 

[major major]

From all accounts, Boone has carried himself this way, since he arrived here. Had it not been for his injury ridden season last year, we probably wouldnt have Foligno as current captain. So, interesting question becomes, does Torts make the change ? Theres no denying that Folignos season has been brutal this year, and Torts called out that leadership many times when he arrived here. Could we see Foligno potentially moved this offseason ?

Oh gawd. We simply don't have the info to speculate further on this.

And Torts called out everything under the sun when he first arrived, including the conditioning which was objectively not an issue for anyone other than Joey, according to the conditioning tests.

I'm not in the "Foligno is a great captain" camp. I have no clue. But neither does anyone else here.

 

[DJA]

From all accounts, Boone has carried himself this way, since he arrived here. Had it not been for his injury ridden season last year, we probably wouldnt have Foligno as current captain. So, interesting question becomes, does Torts make the change ? Theres no denying that Folignos season has been brutal this year, and Torts called out that leadership many times when he arrived here. Could we see Foligno potentially moved this offseason ?

I think JK and JD are proud guys and wouldn't move Nick so quickly after investing so much money and handpicking him for the "C". I agree that he has been absolutely brutal and wouldn't mind clearing the cap space. I would keep him around only because I would like to see how he looks if the C is removed and if he relaxes a little bit and plays like last year.

 

[Light the Lamp]

Many point to Foligno obtaining the "C", which lead to his struggle. I believe it was his new contract causing complacency (only natural to let down). Would not be surprised if Tort's removes the "C" and wait until the end of next season to name Boone.

 

[KJ Dangler]

Oh gawd. We simply don't have the info to speculate further on this.

And Torts called out everything under the sun when he first arrived, including the conditioning which was objectively not an issue for anyone other than Joey, according to the conditioning tests.

I'm not in the "Foligno is a great captain" camp. I have no clue. But neither does anyone else here.

While management can try to stand by what they feel was in shape, Torts isnt buying that, hence why he is planning to run an absolute brutal training camp this fall. Maybe what he considers to be in "hockey shape" is not starting out each season 1-9. Are the slow starts every season, a direct result of the conditioning level ? Sure makes me wonder.

 

[Light the Lamp]

Conditioning is also a mental issue. If you know you are better conditioned, stronger team, you can wear down the opponent and play strong in the 3rd period.

Can't wait to watch the Tort's rope drill

AGAIN!

 

[db2011]

When Boone was getting ready to make his shootout attempt, I was surprised by how much I felt was going to convert. You know he wanted it, and it felt like he was gonna go and get it.

I love Nick Foligno, but if he were to have the C removed, Jenner would wear it well

 

[BluejacketNut]

Its a shame we didnt lock him up, its gonna cost us

 

[Hello Johnny]

Its a shame we didnt lock him up, its gonna cost us

It was seemingly a financial decision between Jenner, Murray or Jones as to who would get the long term contract, and I think Jones is the right choice as he has the highest upside.

 

[Viqsi]

From all accounts, Boone has carried himself this way, since he arrived here. Had it not been for his injury ridden season last year, we probably wouldnt have Foligno as current captain. So, interesting question becomes, does Torts make the change ? Theres no denying that Folignos season has been brutal this year, and Torts called out that leadership many times when he arrived here. Could we see Foligno potentially moved this offseason ?

Oh, look, more silliness from the "no, really, correlation MUST be causation, we have no other explanation!" crowd.

 

[CBJx614]

First let me preface my comment by saying that I don't think Boone Jenner is the same type of player as Mark Messier. But, watching him during the postgame show, I swear Boone sounds like and carries himself just like Mark Messier.

I've long held that Dubinsky should be the captain, but really my opinion has changed over the course of the year. Boone really should be the captain of the team. He's got the experience of being a captain and it's pretty obvious that he's a leader and respected greatly by his teammates.

I've been telling my buddies for awhile now, Jenner is gonna make a lot of people forget about #61

It was seemingly a financial decision between Jenner, Murray or Jones as to who would get the long term contract, and I think Jones is the right choice as he has the highest upside.

Exactly.

 

[BluejacketNut]

It was seemingly a financial decision between Jenner, Murray or Jones as to who would get the long term contract, and I think Jones is the right choice as he has the highest upside.

You actually think he's not going to be here long term? Its just going to cost us more to resign him, and if he continues to improve, and i see no reason he wont, it will probably be more expensive to sign him in a few more years. He's part of the core, he's not going anywhere

 

[KlichkoBro*]

You actually think he's not going to be here long term? Its just going to cost us more to resign him, and if he continues to improve, and i see no reason he wont, it will probably be more expensive to sign him in a few more years. He's part of the core, he's not going anywhere

The Jackets could afford only one long term contract between Jones, Murray and Jenner. They chose Jones. What's hard to understand?
Also a player like Jenner shouldn't be making more than 5 mil./year anyway. Signing him long term wouldn't be that much of a saving. Jones is another story, he could become elite one day.

 

[major major]

While management can try to stand by what they feel was in shape, Torts isnt buying that, hence why he is planning to run an absolute brutal training camp this fall. Maybe what he considers to be in "hockey shape" is not starting out each season 1-9. Are the slow starts every season, a direct result of the conditioning level ? Sure makes me wonder.

It's not about who they "feel" is in shape. We have conditioning tests for this, and they show no problem.

Mental shape is another story. For all we know that could have been an issue. But we don't know. (Cue page after page of fans asserting things they don't know).

 

[Forepar]

But with what cap space could CBJ have signed Boone to long-term extension? They had $5.5M at best to re-sign Jones AND Wild Bill (and maybe a Prout replacement also). Not sure if the 5% escalator to the cap will be opted in by NHLPA (although likely). There may be a shot at long term n Jones, but in all likelihood he gets a bridge also. Yes, if Boone continues to improve, he will command more $; but that will be in years when some of the current veteran long-term contracts will start to come off the books and there is room. It would be great if there was more cap space now (thank you Clarkson contract), but there isn't/wasn't. And FO not ready to give up on Dubi, Foligno, etc..., and they have NMC's or NTC's anyway. The NHL world of ALL guaranteed contracts makes cap management that much more difficult (and important). Maybe too long on Dubi/Foligno, etc...but that is what vets of their stature commanded on the market then.
I agree Boone is CBJ for long-haul; his pay day will be more later instead of spread out over these early years also.

 

[major major]

As far as impact on the team goes, I think Jenner is going to be on the same level as Dubi and Foligno. All provide physicality and leadership, Boone already scores more goals but is way behind on playmaking. If we didn't already have the other two I'd be clamoring to lock him up long term. But we can afford to wait and see. He's a fan favorite type of player but I don't see him ever worth $6m+.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

At least Jenner provides value for his contract. He's got a good nose for the net and is willing to the pay the price to score dirty goals. He's actually a skilled scorer, though he doesn't appear to have much shooting range.

He, Atkinson and Hartnell are the only forwards earning their keep in this mostly overpaid collection of mediocre forwards.

Lowest leading scorers by team in NHL:

27) Columbus...Atkinson 47 points
28) Detroit....Zetterberg 45 points
29) Carolina.....Skinner 44 points
30) Toronto...PA Parenteau 37 points.

None of these are playoff teams right now, though Detroit might sneak in.

Successful NHL teams have high end scoring, or at least a goodly number of #40-60 ranked scorers. The Jackets have none of these, nor any realistic prospect of having them. $42 million is already allocated toward next season in forward contracts. What you see is what you get for next season. And the season after that. And the season after that.

Just a terribly constructed hockey team offensively.

 

[BluejacketNut]

The terrible contract management of this FO is what's preventing us from actually being able to lock up our core. If im Jones, im banking on myself and signing a bridge to maximize my contract

 

[Crede777]

Its a shame we didnt lock him up, its gonna cost us

That's actually a good thing. The important things are:
1. He's on the team next season.
2. He continues to improve.

Beyond that, if he turns out great and management has to pay him $6 million plus per season, that's awesome. Means he developed well and is an impact player. Don't take unnecessary risks just so we hopefully get a "good deal" 4 years from now.

 

[BluejacketNut]

Having to pay all your core top dollar constantly is not always a good thing. You lock up your core, hopefully at a good price so you and use money elsewhere. I know we cant afford it, and its because of F grade contract management.

 

[DarkandStormy]

I know we cant afford it

No you don't.

 

[Crede777]

You lock up your core, hopefully at a good price so you and use money elsewhere.

This is the Edmonton approach. It's risky and often doesn't work.

Let the young guys get bridges and force them to prove themselves. Pay the veterans. Throwing money/term at a player who only has 1 or 2 seasons under his belt is way too risky.

 

[CBJx614]

At least Jenner provides value for his contract. He's got a good nose for the net and is willing to the pay the price to score dirty goals. He's actually a skilled scorer, though he doesn't appear to have much shooting range.

He, Atkinson and Hartnell are the only forwards earning their keep in this mostly overpaid collection of mediocre forwards.

Lowest leading scorers by team in NHL:

27) Columbus...Atkinson 47 points
28) Detroit....Zetterberg 45 points
29) Carolina.....Skinner 44 points
30) Toronto...PA Parenteau 37 points.

None of these are playoff teams right now, though Detroit might sneak in.

Successful NHL teams have high end scoring, or at least a goodly number of #40-60 ranked scorers. The Jackets have none of these, nor any realistic prospect of having them. $42 million is already allocated toward next season in forward contracts. What you see is what you get for next season. And the season after that. And the season after that.

Just a terribly constructed hockey team offensively.

Not if the defense starts producing up to its potential. Jones should be our Wiz replacement (50 pt Dman) on top of less pressure on JJ, the continual growth of Murray and potentially Werenski. The defense should be setup to contribute a bit offensively as well.

 

[Hello Johnny]

You actually think he's not going to be here long term? Its just going to cost us more to resign him, and if he continues to improve, and i see no reason he wont, it will probably be more expensive to sign him in a few more years. He's part of the core, he's not going anywhere

Ideally speaking, I'd love to have gotten all of the three aforementioned players on long term deals, but what I'm saying is that in the short term we literally cannot afford it due to our current cap problem. It will cost us down the road, yes, but we have to be able to get down said road in the first place.