Confirmed with Link: Jeff Skinner -- Bought Out 6/29/24

[WhereAreTheCookies]

I'm one of those people, but I always argue that you can work around cap problems by trading guys. You can't trade dead cap.

No you can't. But in the case of Skinner that NMC was a major issue. He very well may have said he's not waiving his NMC for anyone and forced the buy-out.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

Kevyn Adams is definitely making moves this summer. Excited to see how he fills out the roster over the rest of the off-season. I’m tentatively optimistic with how he’s kicked things off over the last few days.

Seems like his preferred options got squashed this week. So I'm not so sure there's a legit plan B.

 

[Beerz]

TBD on how I feel.

 

[jd1970]

And obviously we have players on the roster who can replace Skinner's production (but they'll also be playing defense), but Adams also needs to add 3-4 new players for Ruff.

Who will replace Thompson's lost production?
And Tuch's and Cozen's?

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

No you can't. But in the case of Skinner that NMC was a major issue. He very well may have said he's not waiving his NMC for anyone and forced the buy-out.

Well I didn't mean trading Skinner, I know he's using his NMC. I mean in general with new adds that KA makes to the roster...you can always trade those guys later assuming you didn't hand out another dumb NMC contract like Skinner got.

 

[WhereAreTheCookies]

Well I didn't mean trading Skinner, I know he's using his NMC. I mean in general with new adds that KA makes to the roster...you can always trade those guys later assuming you didn't hand out another dumb NMC contract like Skinner got.

Oh definitely, just look at Tampa and how they've done things to avoid cap problems year after year.

 

[Fjordy]

Who will replace Thompon's lost production?
And Tuch's and Cozen's?

They will replace it themselves, but this does not mean that you should do nothing and sit idly by.

 

[Reddawg]

I get the business and team productivity reasons why we do this, but it’s still sad and I’ll still miss Skinny. He’s been an excellent player for us over the years and his personality and sense of community has been an asset to the team and the region. He will be missed. Good luck #53.

 

[Gabrielor]

Kevyn Adams is definitely making moves this summer. Excited to see how he fills out the roster over the rest of the off-season. I’m tentatively optimistic with how he’s kicked things off over the last few days.

I want your optimism. It's been pulled out of me like a Mortal Kombat fatality.

I assume I'm going to be not talking Sabres for a few months again after nothing of note happens and its just minor deck chair shuffles we try to convince ourselves are real to disguise the fact that we're a farm team for the NHL.

 

[Ralonzo]

If the system Ruff is implementing involves a focus on puck possession, Skinner can't play for him. Possession dies on his stick, it's just that 0.1% of the time it dies in the net.

 

[thekenneth]

Skinner would have one good game and about 5 bad ones and repeat. I was against his long term contract from the get go. he had a really good year the season before last but so did a handful of sabres players. sabres have a lot of cap to play around with this year. I see all these rumours of players that sabres are going after that look like they were written by ai. let's see if they actually bring someone in.

 

[Chainshot]

I wonder if he takes a one year somewhere for low AAV to get two afterward to balance out what he's about to lose in his buyout?

 

[oldgoalie]

I wonder if he takes a one year somewhere for low AAV to get two afterward to balance out what he's about to lose in his buyout?

can Toronto afford him?

 

[old kummelweck]

can Toronto afford him?

that's where my head went

 

[slip]

Best of luck Jeff but not sorry to see you go. Props to management for making a tough but very smart decision.

 

[OkimLom]

They came to the point that it needed to be done. You can’t go into next season with a player that knows management doesn’t want the player in the room. Once they came out and said they are looking at their options with Skinner, there was no path back to putting that back in the bottle.

I’m not going to praise Adams for cleaning up his own mess. End of the Skinner chapter, time to move on.

 

[TheBarnIsElectric]

I thought it was an overpay, but a necessary one at the time. We needed his scoring and letting him leave would have only led to the teardown sooner.

I don't think the contract ever really hurt us, because even when he was horrible, the team sucked too and cap space was not going to solve our problems.

He scored a lot of goals and he was fun to watch, but he no longer fits what we need. The buyout isn't ideal, but again, it's necessary.

My only regret about Skinner's tenure with the team is that Ralph Krueger was his coach.

 

[slip]

They came to the point that it needed to be done. You can’t go into next season with a player that knows management doesn’t want the player in the room. Once they came out and said they are looking at their options with Skinner, there was no path back to putting that back in the bottle.

I’m not going to praise Adams for cleaning up his own mess. End of the Skinner chapter, time to move on.

In all fairness he’s cleaning up Botterill’s mess. Buyout was the only real option with Skinner. The posturing to the media was a Hail Mary attempt to unload his contract to anybody with Skinner waiving.

 

[old kummelweck]

I like the buy out, but I don't think Skinner is done scoring goals in the league. He regressed like almost everyone else did last season.

 

[OkimLom]

In all fairness he’s cleaning up Botterill’s mess. Buyout was the only real option with Skinner. The posturing to the media was a Hail Mary attempt to unload his contract to anybody with Skinner waiving.

Wouldn’t need to buy him out if Adams built a competitive team from the moment he became GM. Skinner and his contract were not blocking that from happening. Skinner quickly turned into the “scapegoat” for the media to latch onto because he’s the most expensive contract. Now that Adams is in panic mode to field a competitive team, he’s at a loss of what to do.

 

[slip]

I like the buy out, but I don't think Skinner is done scoring goals in the league. He regressed like almost everyone else did last season.

I swear to God if he wins a cup next year while we miss the playoffs again…..lol!

 

[slip]

Wouldn’t need to buy him out if Adams built a competitive team from the moment he became GM. Skinner and his contract were not blocking that from happening. Skinner quickly turned into the “scapegoat” for the media to latch onto because he’s the most expensive contract. Now that Adams is in panic mode to field a competitive team, he’s at a loss of what to do.

Cutting ties with a defensive black hole and possession murderer suggests just the opposite of panic. Trust me he won’t be missed.

 

[Diaspora]

I don’t see how we get better with this move.

I'm not sure how we're worse with this move. Any of Benson, Kulich, Rosen or Savoie would be better defensively in the top-six, if it came to that.

Power play is bound to look better, too

 

[OkimLom]

Cutting ties with a defensive black hole and possession murderer suggests just the opposite of panic. Trust me he won’t be missed.

Because Skinner hasn’t been a black hole his whole time here. If ownership didn’t decide to move on from Granato, which was a sign there was a change in direction and urgency, Skinner would still be here.

 

[Chainshot]

can Toronto afford him?

I don't know. I could see him providing some chaos for them for a season, but they seem to be trying to get Domi and Bertuzzi and now Tanev under contract.