Proposal: Jeff Skinner for Tavares

Svechhammer

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I mean to be fair, a guy who famously got shipped out of Carolina for a bag of Pu for not wanting to play any defense definitely seems like a good fit for the -checks notes- Toronto Maple Leafs
 

Fatass

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Skinner has it soft right now. Sadly the Sabres are stuck with him. And it’s going to be near to impossible to be a good club with him. Is a buyout too ugly?
 

LongWayDown37

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I have actually wondered if something Skinner -> toronto could be workable. We know that its one place he likely waives his NTC to go to.

Working under the presumption that the Sabres would retain and that the Leafs may move on from Marner - Skinner could offer them top 6 scoring production at a discounted rate. Tavares is intriguing for the Sabres to take on for 1 year, but I agree he's unlikely to move his NTC for Buffalo.

What about Skinner, 2024 2nd, 2025 2nd to Toronto @ $6M/year (Buf retains $3M).

Toronto gets a scorer at probably an appropriate salary and two good picks to build their pipeline. For the Sabres, this is far more attractive than a buyout and paying Skinner for 6 years.
 

Joel Ward

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Only interest Toronto might have in Skinner is if he is bought out and wants to play close to home for dirt cheap.

As others have pointed out, JT is the better player and has the more palatable contract so its a no-go for the Leafs.
 

Look Up

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Skinner's playoff experience would be invaluable to the Leafs. :wg:
 

HogtownSabresfan

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I wouldn’t do Skinner and Power for Tavares. 9 mil of dead cap for a useless player is disgusting for 2 years.

LOL. Leafs don't need a #1 d man all of 21 and from Toronto. Toronto would do this in a heartbeat and probably play Skinner one year and then LTIR him. Let's be honest.
 

Bust

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To Buffalo:
John Tavares
3x pairs of bedsheets

To Toronto:
Jeff Skinner
Infinite smart water

Both have NMCs, but Skinner would seemingly be ok with Toronto and Tavares might be tired of being one of the scapegoats. He can create a narrative of redemption, or could just fully embrace non-relevance in Buffalo. Maybe Skinner would pop off in a better offense and wouldn’t require a buyout.

It’s so crazy it just might work. Or I just think it’d be hilarious, maybe both. Thoughts?

I’ll play along as I’m bored.

To Toronto:
Skinner @ 50%
11 OA
2025 1st
Girgensons UFA rights

To Buffalo
Marner

It’s all in fun, but this is much closer than the original proposal of a swap for JT.
 

wetcoast

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I'm not against it, of course, but the problem is that Skinner has three years left on his contract, and Tavares has one year left.
The other problem is that JT is a much better overall player than Skinner so it ain't happening.
 

wetcoast

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I’ll play along as I’m bored.

To Toronto:
Skinner @ 50%
11 OA
2025 1st
Girgensons UFA rights

To Buffalo
Marner

It’s all in fun, but this is much closer than the original proposal of a swap for JT.
That would be a very interesting trade and the biggest value is the 50% retained.

Girgensons really has zero value and might have a hard time landing a job in the NHL next season.
 

pth2

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I'd like to see Tavares moved for Price, who's still on LTIR, and this means Toronto has 11M freed up to add skaters, and gives Montreal a quality veteran for next season, to try and become more competitive, and would mean when Gallagher ends up on LTIR it means Montreal doesn't have 2 LTIR contracts at the same time.
 

Bust

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That would be a very interesting trade and the biggest value is the 50% retained.

Girgensons really has zero value and might have a hard time landing a job in the NHL next season.
I’d say the biggest value piece in that deal is Marner - and I couldn’t see BUF touching it without an extension. But I hear what you’re saying - Skinner at 50 all the sudden isn’t bad value.

I always liked Girgensons! A guy I played pickup with got his white rookie year jersey and would wear it when on team white. Maybe I’ve got a soft spot for him.
 

wetcoast

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I’d say the biggest value piece in that deal is Marner - and I couldn’t see BUF touching it without an extension. But I hear what you’re saying - Skinner at 50 all the sudden isn’t bad value.
Obviously but I was thinking from the Leafs angle and should have stated as such.

it's also a very interesting and plausible proposition for both teams one would think.


I always liked Girgensons! A guy I played pickup with got his white rookie year jersey and would wear it when on team white. Maybe I’ve got a soft spot for him.
I used to like him but he is 30 time passes and teams and the NHL moves on.
 
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Sabresruletheschool

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I’ll play along as I’m bored.

To Toronto:
Skinner @ 50%
11 OA
2025 1st
Girgensons UFA rights

To Buffalo
Marner

It’s all in fun, but this is much closer than the original proposal of a swap for JT.

There is no way Buffalo is going to give the 11th ov, another first, and Skinner at 4.5 mil for one year of Marner. All this does is gives Buffalo Marner for a year and saves the 4.5 mil for two years. That just wouldn't make sense for Buffalo.
 

Nervousbreakdown

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Tavares isnt ever waiving to play in buffalo. Toronto doesn't want to trade Tavares, they want to just ride out this year and then re sign him at less than half the cap hit. He's still a really good player regardless of what the dumbest people in a facebook comment section say tp the contrary.

Also Marner doesn't waive to play in buffalo.
 

Unbiased Fan

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LOL. Leafs don't need a #1 d man all of 21 and from Toronto. Toronto would do this in a heartbeat and probably play Skinner one year and then LTIR him. Let's be honest.
With skinner 9 million of dead cap in the AHL that will take the leafs out of contention even with Power running the 2nd pair behind Rielly, Mathews will 99% pull a Lindros and not play until he’s traded. I’m a huge leafs fan but if the leafs acquired Skinners cap hit I’d bet every cent in my account that Mathews sits out no matter how massive the ammount of futures attached to him.
 

TheDawnOfANewTage

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I’ll play along as I’m bored.

To Toronto:
Skinner @ 50%
11 OA
2025 1st
Girgensons UFA rights

To Buffalo
Marner

It’s all in fun, but this is much closer than the original proposal of a swap for JT.

Ok, not sure why you’re just ignoring the fact that Jeff Skinner comes with infinite smart water. Sure, there’s costs in distribution, but the product itself is free. That’s the biggest part of the deal, and we both know it.

Srsly though, no interest in Marner. Dunno how Toronto would make Skinner happen, I actually like him in Buffalo though. If we’re gonna suck he makes it entertaining at least.
 

McLeafy

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Skinner @50% for a bag of pucks and a warm body.

No way we move Tavares let alone marner for him.
 

Bust

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Ok, not sure why you’re just ignoring the fact that Jeff Skinner comes with infinite smart water. Sure, there’s costs in distribution, but the product itself is free. That’s the biggest part of the deal, and we both know it.

Srsly though, no interest in Marner. Dunno how Toronto would make Skinner happen, I actually like him in Buffalo though. If we’re gonna suck he makes it entertaining at least.
Keep the water and add 1lb of Buffalo wings. We have enough tootie-fruit water in Toronto.

My man, if sucking while being entertained is your thing - Marner is your guy.
 

Panthaz89

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That would be a very interesting trade and the biggest value is the 50% retained.

Girgensons really has zero value and might have a hard time landing a job in the NHL next season.
Girgensons will be the next Sabre to win a cup with some other team doesn't help that the Sabres fans love to jet decent players for their roles and pretend like they are problems.

The same culprits were already talking about getting rid of Cozens. Always blaming the players on the team that have no problems playing well when they aren't on the Sabres.
 

Byrddog

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The swap makes no sense. Buffalo needs veteran leadership that they have in a bloated contract in Skinner. No doubt the Leafs would like like to move JT and he probably would like to be out too. This does not address the needs of either team and really Buffalo would have no interest in moving one of the D men and making the situation worse.
 

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