Friedman: Jeff Skinner Buyout is a possibility.

[HogtownSabresfan]

Except it would be 9 mil both those years if he wasn’t bought out…so they have more room as he’s not playing a meaningful role those years. This is the fallicy when folks bring up those numbers!


25-30 goals for but how many goals against ?! He is a black hole for defense

Amazing he was only a -2 and his possession stats are not even close to terrible. But we keep filling in some idiotic narrative to make him the fall guy. This is going to be such a Buffalo thing. Worst contract ever where we bid on ourselves, but it out for emotional reasons and watch him score 30-35 in Toronto as a plus player.

If management has that poor of a relationship with a guy you paid $72M to, that is a failure. If a team can't find a way to make a 25-40 goal scorer work on a roster, rather than paying him $15M to note be on the roster for 6 years, that is a total failure. Signing the contract in the first place was a failure.

IMO - I'd rather eat at least another year with him on the roster rather than buy him out and have him on the books for 6 (SIX!!!!!!) years.

Spinning this as a good outcome, on any level, is insanity. And its not the best of bad options. Eating this contract will take us into the 2030s with Skinner on the books. Holy f***nuts!!!

Wait until they buy him, and don't spend anywhere near the cap. We'll see if that happens

 

[KrakenSabresMike]

Amazing he was only a -2 and his possession stats are not even close to terrible. But we keep filling in some idiotic narrative to make him the fall guy. This is going to be such a Buffalo thing. Worst contract ever where we bid on ourselves, but it out for emotional reasons and watch him score 30-35 in Toronto as a plus player.



Wait until they buy him, and don't spend anywhere near the cap. We'll see if that happens

Put him on the 3rd line this year ( he’s not on the 1st or 2nd next year under ruff) and tell me he’s a good fit at all - also +|- is a bs stat

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

I'm sure the Blackhawks would be willing to retain on his contract as part of a 3-way deal where Skinner ends up in Toronto for a simple swap of 1st round picks (#18 and #11.)

Buffalo saves millions in actual dollars, saves years on the AAV cap hit to spend elsewhere.
Chicago moves up in the draft.
Toronto gets a winger who can score 20-30 goals.

Win/win/win

 

[NYR94]

Also guaranteed cup! So there's that.

Eichel, ROR, Reinhart, Montour, Rodrigues, Kulikov, Okposo. Teams should be tripping over themselves to add former Sabres.

Florida will sign him.

 

[MisterT]

Put him on the 3rd line this year ( he’s not on the 1st or 2nd next year under ruff) and tell me he’s a good fit at all - also +|- is a bs stat

To paraphrase Mike Keenan, I'll take my chances with a roster full of plus players any day of the year.

 

[VaporTrail]

To paraphrase Mike Keenan, I'll take my chances with a roster full of plus players any day of the year.

He's homesick and Flordia is probably too far from his hometown (Toronto)

 

[toddkaz]

11 pages for Jeff Skinner

I am impressed

 

[Muffin]

Colorado should bring him in to play with Mittelstadt again.

 

[KrakenSabresMike]

To paraphrase Mike Keenan, I'll take my chances with a roster full of plus players any day of the year.

Then you won’t want Jeff skinner every year but one

 

[KrakenSabresMike]

Here another one for the plus minus crowd - yes his offense is good ( or was 2 years ago driving this number) but his defense is ZERO percentile…as a 3rd liner with less offensive how is that getting us to the playoffs next year


also take away his teammate quality at 87% and how much of his offense disappears

 

[TrufleShufle]

When he signs elsewhere, do we think it will be 1 or 2 years with the Rangers?

 

[Mighty Makar]

I think the Leafs will sign him for cheap.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

Giving their RFA's more than fair deals, they should still have 10M minimum to fill a few forward spots.

If they buy Skinner out next summer, the cap penalty is 4 years instead of 5 after 24-25.

So unless the Sabres are planning on spending well over 10 million dollars on free agent forwards this year, I don't see any reason to do this now.

 

[TageGod]

Giving their RFA's more than fair deals, they should still have 10M minimum to fill a few forward spots.

If they buy Skinner out next summer, the cap penalty is 4 years instead of 5 after 24-25.

So unless the Sabres are planning on spending over 10 million dollars on free agent forwards this year, I don't see any reason to do this now.

As the De Facto GM in this moment, I am 100% acquiring two players for about 10m total.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

As the De Facto GM in this moment, I am 100% acquiring two players for about 10m total.

And they can do that.

Skinner buyout would mean going big game hunting on top of that, like Jake Guentzel. I'd make that swap, but whether or not they choose Buffalo is a different story.

 

[dickiedunnwrotethis]

Giving their RFA's more than fair deals, they should still have 10M minimum to fill a few forward spots.

If they buy Skinner out next summer, the cap penalty is 4 years instead of 5 after 24-25.

So unless the Sabres are planning on spending well over 10 million dollars on free agent forwards this year, I don't see any reason to do this now.

One reason would be to create a winning culture, one that takes pride in hard work and defensive responsibility. Addition by subtraction.

 

[Brodeur]

Giving their RFA's more than fair deals, they should still have 10M minimum to fill a few forward spots.

If they buy Skinner out next summer, the cap penalty is 4 years instead of 5 after 24-25.

So unless the Sabres are planning on spending well over 10 million dollars on free agent forwards this year, I don't see any reason to do this now.

They could just want to move on and open up a spot for one of the prospects rather than it being a cap decision. The Devils had a ton of cap space entering the 2017 offseason and they bought out Mike Cammalleri. They didn't go nuts in free agency, freed up a spot for Nico Hischier (and unexpectedly Jesper Bratt). Pavel Zacha and Miles Wood were going to get more ice time as well. I forget if they had an inkling that Blake Coleman was ready for a bigger role too.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

That buyout has a 6.4 mil cap hit in a 2026-2027, when they're supposed to contend. That's rough.

 

[PatLaFontaineASMR]

Giving their RFA's more than fair deals, they should still have 10M minimum to fill a few forward spots.

If they buy Skinner out next summer, the cap penalty is 4 years instead of 5 after 24-25.

So unless the Sabres are planning on spending well over 10 million dollars on free agent forwards this year, I don't see any reason to do this now.

Ruff doesn't want him in the lineup just like Rod didn't want him in the lineup.

 

[start winnin]

There's a lot of reasons buying Skinner out makes sense.

He's a cherry picker who picks his spot, he'll get you 30 goals but other than that, doesn't bring anything else, no physicality, no defense, no board work, no forecheck. Buying him out saves us some cap space and provides a roster spot for one of our plethora of forward prospects to try to make the team. We also have Jack Quinn who is (if able to stay healthy) already a better player than Skinner.

 

[tsujimoto74]

I'm sure the Blackhawks would be willing to retain on his contract as part of a 3-way deal where Skinner ends up in Toronto for a simple swap of 1st round picks (#18 and #11.)

Buffalo saves millions in actual dollars, saves years on the AAV cap hit to spend elsewhere.
Chicago moves up in the draft.
Toronto gets a winger who can score 20-30 goals.

Win/win/win

I’m sure they would. That is not what a double retention is worth. We’ve seen this done in many trades now; it generally gets the intermediary retaining team a mid-round pick.

 

[kmwtrucks]

I’m sure they would. That is not what a double retention is worth. We’ve seen this done in many trades now; it generally gets the intermediary retaining team a mid-round pick.

all those double retentions are on 1 years deal when lots have teams have cap space at the TDL (your cap space accrues or you use our LTIR) . a 3 year in the off season would cost alot.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Ex Sabre? Whoever gets him is winning the cup next year, it's science at this point.

 

[57special]

Trade Skinner for Campbell, buy out Campbell, or trade him at 50% retention?

Neither scenario is appealing, but having Skinner around for another 3 years...oof. Sabres have to stop giving out dumb deals.

 

[leafsfan2point0]

I’d take him on the leafs for a cheap bounce back 1 year deal to rebuild value. Ride shotgun with Matthews who would help mask Skinner defensively.