Value of: Jason Robertson to NJ

[Ekiru]

Specific details can be worked out but as a framework:

Dawson Mercer
Seamus Casey
2026 1st (or 2025 2nd+3rd)

It’s not pretty downgrading Robertson for Mercer but neither is signing Robertson to his next contract with Rantanen now making 12. The cap is going up but not by that much, and with a defense that needs work.

Not sure how I feel about the value from NJ’s side as we’d have to make the cap work as well, but he’d be exactly what NJ needs and what Dallas now has in spades. It’s a risk you probably take signing him.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I'd do this deal from the Devils POV but I'd think Dallas would prefer Nemec over Casey.

I also think Dallas could have interest in Hamilton to run the PP or Meier to take Robertsons spot assuming NJ takes cap back.

 

[Gurglesons]

I don’t see the incentive for Dallas to do this. Mercer nor Casey add anything to their roster that they need.

 

[Ekiru]

I don’t see the incentive for Dallas to do this. Mercer nor Casey add anything to their roster that they need.

Mercer would be cheap talent they can keep cheap (hopefully) with room to well outproduce his deal. Hes only 23

Casey is an ELC for the defense in a year probably and that’s huge for Dallas, they could go get a big fish and save in the backend pair

The 1st is a gift for doing business lmfao

 

[Captain Mountain]

IMO, if Robertson is moved, Nemec would need to go the other way for NJ to beat out other offers. A likely mid to late 1st doesn't mean much to Dallas and they have lots of Mercer level or above forwards.

 

[Ekiru]

I'd do this deal from the Devils POV but I'd think Dallas would prefer Nemec over Casey.

I also think Dallas could have interest in Hamilton to run the PP or Meier to take Robertsons spot assuming NJ takes cap back.

Nemec is needed in NJ, otherwise that’s the obvious fit here instead of Casey.

Mercer replicating his 50pt 25g season in Dallas for what 5ish mil is invaluable when they now Rantanen and three other 8m+ deals

 

[Forge]

As a devils fan, I'd definitely do this without thinking twice which tells me that it's probably not great for Dallas. I also think Dallas probably wants something on the defensive end that helps out right now, and I'm not sure Casey is that.

I think that there will be other deals on the table that the Stars prefer.

But it really depends on what Dallas is looking to do. I just think that the defense is probably the bigger return priority than the Robertson fill in.

 

[Dominance]

Clearly gave zero thought to what Dallas might actually be interested in. It seems plain as day that they’ll be looking for a quality top-4 RD as the centrepiece for Robertson.

 

[Ekiru]

Clearly gave zero thought to what Dallas might actually be interested in. It seems plain as day that they’ll be looking for a quality top-4 RD as the centrepiece for Robertson.

So then Hamilton retained on perhaps?

Its not ‘zero thought’ it’s I cant follow all 32 teams
Lmfao

 

[SnS]

So then Hamilton retained on perhaps?

Its not ‘zero thought’ it’s I cant follow all 32 teams
Lmfao

Gross.

 

[Ekiru]

Gross.

I figured as much.

So then Nemec is the only other option and he’s needed in Jersey more than most Devils fans loudest about him will admit.

Sadly it probably doesn’t work then; figured saving money this way allows them to chase a RHD of a higher quality, with Casey being an ELC in the very near future

 

[Dominance]

I figured as much.

So then Nemec is the only other option and he’s needed in Jersey more than most Devils fans loudest about him will admit.

Sadly it probably doesn’t work then; figured saving money this way allows them to chase a RHD of a higher quality, with Casey being an ELC in the very near future

I seriously, seriously doubt that Nemec moves the needle for Dallas at this point either. Someone like Dobson is their likely target with Robertson, although the value may not line up.

Just unlikely to find a good fit here with both teams trying to compete now IMO.

 

[SnS]

I seriously, seriously doubt that Nemec moves the needle for Dallas at this point either. Someone like Dobson is their likely target with Robertson, although the value may not line up.

Just unlikely to find a good fit here with both teams trying to compete now IMO.

There’s two ways I think it’s going to go.


One for one for a top pairing RHD.

Or

One for three or four to recoup assets / make the fit better. Whether it be a middle six center or a middle pair RHD and a prospect / young player poised for NHL time and then a pick or so to re-stock.

 

[Ekiru]

I seriously, seriously doubt that Nemec moves the needle for Dallas at this point either. Someone like Dobson is their likely target with Robertson, although the value may not line up.

that seems like the perfect avenue if the value can be matched but that’s asking a lot more, finding that trade and working it out.

Futures and a cheaper middle6 replacement opens the window for more opportunities at RHD then pigeonholing yourself to a Dobson (not saying he isnt a good choice just an example)

That was my thinking. but as it stands with Nemec he would certainly move the needle for Dallas

 

[Ekiru]

There’s two ways I think it’s going to go.


One for one for a top pairing RHD.

Or

One for three or four to recoup assets / make the fit better. Whether it be a middle six center or a middle pair RHD and a prospect / young player poised for NHL time and then a pick or so to re-stock.

This was my line of thinking, part two

Mercer is a middle-6 forward who can play all three spots and has. His recent stats are only because Nj hasn’t found a stable spot for him when injuries hit; Dallas would not have this issue as they’re far more steadily built up front, so I think Mercer can shine for cheap which is huge for them

Mercer at 20-21 put up 50 and 27g when he had a stable line, and only Hischier was better than him (Tatar was the third). He can find that again in Dallas, Im sure of it. He needs a change of scenery

 

[Ekiru]

Obviously if Dallas finds a nice one for one type move, take it

But a 20-25g, 40-50pt forward whos 23 with control, a 1st round level ELC prospect in Casey, and a 1st.. that’s good value if they do choose to go the route of recouping assets and cap space.

 

[Gurglesons]

I don’t see Dallas moving Robertson to add another 9+ mil defenseman with Harley coming up.

 

[SnS]

This was my line of thinking, part two

Mercer is a middle-6 forward who can play all three spots and has. His recent stats are only because Nj hasn’t found a stable spot for him when injuries hit; Dallas would not have this issue as they’re far more steadily built up front, so I think Mercer can shine for cheap which is huge for them

Mercer at 20-21 put up 50 and 27g when he had a stable line, and only Hischier was better than him (Tatar was the third). He can find that again in Dallas, Im sure of it. He needs a change of scenery

I think Mercer isn’t a good enough piece and I don’t think he’s a center.

I wouldn’t be enamored with the deal.

 

[Ekiru]

I think Mercer isn’t a good enough piece and I don’t think he’s a center.

I wouldn’t be enamored with the deal.

Hes played center and was a center prior to the NHL; it hasn’t worked out as well because Jerseys wingers are not nearly as deep as Dallas

It’s fair to think he isnt good enough, he might not be. But I’m not sure you’ll find a cheaper option whos realistically able to (and has) produce 25g and 50pts for less than 5-6m (hes 4.25m now and RFA after this year)

So if Dallas needs cap badly enough he may be a worthy risk to take; and I personally don’t think it’s much of a risk

 

[SnS]

Hes played center and was a center prior to the NHL; it hasn’t worked out as well because Jerseys wingers are not nearly as deep as Dallas

It’s fair to think he isnt good enough, he might not be. But I’m not sure you’ll find a cheaper option whos realistically able to (and has) produce 25g and 50pts for less than 5-6m (hes 4.25m now and RFA after this year)

So if Dallas needs cap badly enough he may be a worthy risk to take; and I personally don’t think it’s much of a risk

If their goal is cap, they probably move March / Dumba / Lub/ outside shot at Seguin. I don’t think that’ll be the reason Robertson is dealt.

 

[majormajor]

Not a Calgary or Dallas fan but from the outside there might be a match there. Nazem Kadri and Rasmus Andersson are ideal fits for what the Stars need. And the Flames are in a good position to take on cap dumps like Dumba to help grease a Robertson trade. Dallas would like a more cap efficient deal than Kadri's, which is a very good contract given how well he's aged but still a substantial cap hit. At four years left I imagine it is too long for the Flames to retain on that. But I could imagine them retaining half on Andersson, just because there's only one year left on his deal, in addition to taking on cap dumps like Dumba.

I get that in terms of generic value the offers with younger pieces like Mercer and Casey/Nemec might be higher up, but I don't think that's what Dallas is looking for. They would like to move Robertson for win now playoff type performers.

 

[Ekiru]

If their goal is cap, they probably move March / Dumba / Lub/ outside shot at Seguin. I don’t think that’ll be the reason Robertson is dealt.

Thats fair

though you aren’t getting much for those names; Marchment will fetch something for sure

Seems like a lot of moves to clear cap when you can achieve 3ish in savings while getting a player and good futures, plus move just one of those names however you can.

Really the sweet spot is finding a RHD who saves some cash and is a really good get for Robertson. Retool assets another way. But as someone said it shouldn’t be another 7-8m+ defender

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I'd do this deal from the Devils POV but I'd think Dallas would prefer Nemec over Casey.

I also think Dallas could have interest in Hamilton to run the PP or Meier to take Robertsons spot assuming NJ takes cap back.

Dallas are dumping salary in a Robertson trade. Why would the take a massive capdump in Hamilton? LOL

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Personally I think it is much MUCH more that Nick Robertson is traded to Dallas, then Jason Robertson is traded from Dallas.

Because trading Jason Robertson from Dallas makes no f***ing sense.

 

[Ekiru]

Personally I think it is much MUCH more that Nick Robertson is traded to Dallas, then Jason Robertson is traded from Dallas.

Because trading Jason Robertson from Dallas makes no f***ing sense.

Id agree if they didn’t just get a better version of him. How many dollars can they put into two wingers?

If they can make it work all the power to Dallas