Jared Bednar & Co. Discussion Thread

Tocchet is a bit of a meat head, highly focused on the defensive side rather than creating offense, likes to default to "work harder", has a pretty bad track record in the NHL, and just oversaw the biggest dressing room chemistry disaster we've seen in a little while. However, Vancouver's PK has improved every year with him and they were near the top of the league this year.

Personally, I think that's a downgrade and the Avs are worse off.



He deserves another chance!
You're gonna make me do some dastardly shit if you want that f***ing wax figure to coach here
 
You're gonna make me do some dastardly shit if you want that f***ing wax figure to coach here

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Tocchet is a bit of a meat head, highly focused on the defensive side rather than creating offense, likes to default to "work harder", has a pretty bad track record in the NHL, and just oversaw the biggest dressing room chemistry disaster we've seen in a little while. However, Vancouver's PK has improved every year with him and they were near the top of the league this year.

Personally, I think that's a downgrade and the Avs are worse off.

Vancouver’s PK was all Adam Foote, just like Detroit’s PP was all Alex Tanguay.

Bring them home as Assistant Coaches!
 
Not exactly the same, because he didn't have the NCAA success Carle had, but look at how Granato did with a contender? He had to learn on the job and it didn't go well.

Look at Bednar's first season in the NHL? He had to learn how to manage the egos and personalities of NHLers. He stripped the A's from Iginla and McLeod to start the season, because he wanted to give more responsibility and ownership of the team to its stars like Nate and Mikko. But he did it in a way that impacted the dressing room, because it embarrassed well respected vets a little bit. Both seemed eager to leave after that. That first season was a disaster, because everyone was learning.

Most times I remember a rookie NHL head coach's fist season, they seem together out coached the first season in the playoffs too. They can't find the adjustments, but the other coach can. It's all part of the learning curve. Hard to fast track that.

They could have a dominant regular season next year with someone like Carle, but then get into the playoffs and lose in the first round again. Especially the first round in the Central.

Avs will probably have knock out drag out wars with the best teams in the first round for a while. And the top teams have very experienced coaches in the NHL.

Gotta go with someone with NHL coaching experience IMO.
 
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Not exactly the same, because he didn't have the NCAA success Carle had, but look at how Granato did with a contender? He had to learn on the job and it didn't go well.

Look at Bednar's first season in the NHL? He had to learn how to manage the egos and personalities of NHLers. He stripped the A's from Iginla and McLeod to start the season, because he wanted to give more responsibility and ownership of the team to its stars like Nate and Mikko. But he did it in a way that impacted the dressing room, because it embarrassed well respected vets a little bit. Both seemed eager to leave after that. That first season was a disaster, because everyone was learning.

Most times I remember a rookie NHL head coach's fist season, they seem together out coached the first season in the playoffs too. They can't find the adjustments, but the other coach can. It's all part of the learning curve. Hard to fast track that.

They could have a dominant regular season next year with someone like Carle, but then get into the playoffs and lose in the first round again. Especially the first round in the Central.

Avs will probably have knock out drag out wars with the best teams in the first round for a while. And the top teams have very experienced coaches in the NHL.

Gotta go with someone with NHL coaching experience IMO.
Yeah the Avs can’t afford to go with someone who’s needs to learn the NHL as they go.

At the same time, we need a pliable veteran coach. One who isn’t insistent on playing one way and only one way.

They need a new voice, for sure. But if they pick wrong, they could legitimately tank whatever few years this core has.
 
Vancouver’s PK was all Adam Foote, just like Detroit’s PP was all Alex Tanguay.

Bring them home as Assistant Coaches!

Seems like Tanguay would be sticking in Detroit wouldn't he? They just brought in McLellan in December. Doesn't seem like they'd let him leave to be assistant in Colorado.

Tangs is probably eyeing a head coaching gig I would imagine. Perhaps with Detroit or somewhere else.
 
The Avs were deep sixed by the very guy you advocated trading for months. Maybe your acumen isn’t as great as you think? Maybe you should sit this one out?
You seem to be having a ball today John.

Almost like you enjoy it more with the Avs being eliminated than you did with them playing. Unless you are legit trying to troll, I do not understand what you are attempting to accomplish today.

If it is a troll attempt, damn... you need to get better game.
 
We’ll be the most hated and pain in the ass team to play against, good for at least couple of player suspensions per season
I don't know who would hate life more... The players playing against us, or our own players playing for these coaches.

Either way, it should be high drama.
 
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I don't know who would hate life more... The players playing against us, or our own players playing for these coaches.

Either way, it should be high drama.
Nate would go complete apeshit if Babcock asks to see his phone. Then Nate will pick another fight with Torts, coach Q would spend most of his time separating everyone and making peace
 
Nate would go complete apeshit if Babcock asks to see his phone. Then Nate will pick another fight with Torts, coach Q would spend most of his time separating everyone and making peace
Altitude needs to place hidden cameras and mics all around the practice facilities, training facilities, offices, water fountains, skate sharpeners, etc. This shit needs to be live 24/7 television.
 
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Altitude needs to place hidden cameras and mics all around the practice facilities, training facilities, offices, water fountains, skate sharpeners, etc. This shit needs to be live 24/7 television.
Hell... Nate very well could end up with the biggest tik-tok cooking feed in the world.

He'd be throwing wheat germ, protein powder and chickpea pasta on everything screaming BAM! BAM, BAM!!! BAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAM!!!!!
 
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Hell... Nate very well could end up with the biggest tik-tok cooking feed in the world.

He'd be throwing wheat germ, protein powder and chickpea pasta on everything screaming BAM! BAM, BAM!!! BAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAM!!!!!
What I would really like to happen is Nate to walk into CMac’s office, break everything, then post pictures of all 3 Mikko goals from game 7 on the wall, and spray paint…. ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?!?!?!
 
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What I would really like to happen is Nate to walk into CMac’s office, break everything, then post pictures of all 3 Mikko goals from game 7 on the wall, and spray paint…. ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?!?!?!

Something tells me Nate may have a conversation with mgmt at some point soon, if he didn't already since the loss, about his thoughts on that trade and how it worked out.

He said he didn't understand what happened when it was made. Marty didn't play that well, their depth didn't beat the Stars game breakers, and Mikko just ended their season with a hat trick 4 point night. Easy for him to put all that together in his exit interview.

I have a feeling Bednar may not have loved the trade either. I bet he really wanted to keep Mikko. You can just see it in how he's talked about Mikko during and after the series, and how their big guns made the big plays, and talked about how that's just what Mikko does.
 
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Something tells me Nate may have a conversation with mgmt at some point soon, if he didn't already since the loss, about his thoughts on that trade and how it worked out.

He said he didn't understand what happened when it was made. Marty didn't play that well, their depth didn't beat the Stars game breakers, and Mikko just ended their season with a hat trick 4 point night. Easy for him to put all that together in his exit interview.

I have a feeling Bednar may not have loved the trade either. I bet he really wanted to keep Mikko. You can just see it in how he's talked about Mikko during and after the series, and how their big guns made the big plays, and talked about how that's just what Mikko does.
Fxxk Bednar, he has his style and it doesn't work. Fire them all , the dcore regressed bigtime with Pratt.
 
The front office is a joke if Bednar is still the coach by Wednesday. Every other organization would have moved on from him last year.
Tampa has been the same as us. They haven’t done much since making the finals against the Avs in 2022, and just like Bednar, many people thought they’d move on from Cooper but looks like Cooper isn’t going anywhere. I don’t think Bednar is going anywhere either
 

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