GDT: Jan. 5, 2006 - Gold Medal Game: Russia vs. Canada

[Siberian]

You comrades are great with your clips. You have selective memorys. Watch the whole game. If Canada dived 5 times, Russia dived 25 times.

You comrade show your clip, you have none unless it is canadian dive or non call on a cheap shot by Canada.
Slay how about when Shirokov gets hit with the stick in the heck from behind below the helmet and the ref is just behind looking at it. We should compile all the clips! Can you do that?

 

[troutman]

Slay how about when Shirokov gets hit with the stick in the heck from behind below the helmet and the ref is just behind looking at it. We should compile all the clips! Can you do that?

Perfect, You are doing my work for me. That was one of the worst dives I have ever seen. As I said above, that guy was grazed (barely touched) on the shoulder. The TV commentators were laughing at that Academy performance. Shameful.

 

[Insta]

I thought I saw a canadian player getting held in front of the goalie crease, then punched, then hacked 2-3 times in the back by the goalie and then put in a headlock and pushed into the goal crease, where he got called for touching the goaltender and the faceoff went outside the blueline.

I also saw a canadian player get clobbered in the face by a russian stick and there was no call on that either.

The missed calls went both ways. Russians were just the inferior team, they had some good forwars, but canada had even better defense and goaltending. But I must say Siberian,

Thanks for coming out! Better luck next year...or maybe the year after that...or...

11-1 the last 2 years, can't wait for another easy gold medal next year!

 

[Towmater14]

Of course, you were listening to canadian commentators, the most biased commentators in the world. I hope Slay can make that clip.

Worst officiating ever. Simple blatant rigging up the game.

I agree our commentators were biased but hey, its our country, I'm sure yours would be same same as would any homer. They did play that back during the game a couple of times and man...all he was trying to do was get around the guy and barely brushed him. I can't believe what I am hearing here, I always have been under the train of thought that Russians were suppose to be manly men. You guys sound like a bunch of babies. Cut and dry, it was a great game whether it went either way. Yes that goal by the Russian team should have been allowed and at the time I was hoping that it would be but...once again the score was 5-0 if it was close I would actually feel bad and feel that we didn't necessarily deserve the win, so in this aspect I was hoping that we would blow you away which we did. Please ask me if I feel bad about the game!

 

[Siberian]

I am just watching the second period again, all Canada's PP goals came on BS penalty calls. Just a travesty, I am telling, I will have to put a website with all the video clips of this travesty.

 

[troutman]

Friends, comrades. Let's not take this so seriously. Hockey is just a game.

I think the amazing thing is that people from all around the world can come here and have a dialogue. That would not have been possible 10-20 years ago.

Russia is a very interesting country. I hope one day I am fortunate enough to visit there.

Happy New Year. Peace, unity, love and having fun.

 

[Siberian]

Shirokov gets blatantly hit in the unprotected area of the neck from behind with a stick - ref staring at it right there - no call, it is unbelievable, the more I am watching it the more I am surprised the quality of the officiating.

 

[Insta]

Last time I checked, you need to be able to score a goal to win a hockey game.

(oh thats right, technically you scored one but didnt even know it, Pogge was so dominant, no one even doubted that he made the save on that one till 5 mins later).

 

[Siberian]

Last time I checked, you need to be able to score a goal to win a hockey game.

(oh thats right, technically you scored one but didnt even know it, Pogge was so dominant, no one even doubted that he made the save on that one till 5 mins later).

It's funny, both Pogge and the defenseman knew the puck crossed the line but cheated their way out of it. D-man just shoved the puck out. So not only this team is a full of divers but cheaters too.

 

[Insta]

The d-man didnt touch the puck....the puck slid over the line, hit a siding in the net and went back under his pad, thats why no one saw it. I'm sure if the russian goalie had that happen he would be the first one to skate over to the ref and tell him the puck went in...ROFL!

0-6 on the PP was Russia, congrats on that. Add 4 more mins on the PP from a couple highsticks and they would be 0-8. Canada could have easily got some more powerplays as well, but you have your Russia Red glasses on and cant see anything clearly.

 

[Le Golie]

It's funny, both Pogge and the defenseman knew the puck crossed the line but cheated their way out of it. D-man just shoved the puck out. So not only this team is a full of divers but cheaters too.

You got spanked 5-0 when it counted. You got spanked 8-1 when it didn't count. Do yourself and your blood pressure a favour and get on with your life.

 

[Siberian]

I always thought that having these tournaments in Canada is a great thing for hockey, but boy was I wrong. Hosting a tournament and cheating like that is just the lowest level you can get.

 

[Towmater14]

I always thought that having these tournaments in Canada is a great thing for hockey, but boy was I wrong. Hosting a tournament and cheating like that is just the lowest level you can get.

LOL guys... obviously this guy is just trying to get under your skin. There is an ignor button. With all these remarks, I suggest anyone with any common sense uses it.

 

[Insta]

I agree with you, this tournament was terrible for hockey!

 

[Le Golie]

I always thought that having these tournaments in Canada is a great thing for hockey, but boy was I wrong. Hosting a tournament and cheating like that is just the lowest level you can get.

Do you believe honestly that there was a mass conspiracy taking place at this tournament that allowed Canada to win?

 

[gobolt7]

This thread is dangerously close to being shut down, get it back on topic or it will be closed.

 

[espo*]

I see the sore losers are here.

Take your lumps,lick your wounds,come back next year and try again for a better performance,a gold one not a silver one.You lost fair and square to the better team(and they outplayed them by a lot may i add)

Thanks for coming out Russia!!! Respect,cyclops.

 

[ZombieMatt]

It's funny, both Pogge and the defenseman knew the puck crossed the line but cheated their way out of it. D-man just shoved the puck out. So not only this team is a full of divers but cheaters too.

Actually, the replay quite clearly shows that neither defenceman touched the puck.

The replay shows the puck bouncing off the inside of the net and back under Pogge before either defenceman arrived.

I understand that there may be some frustration over the missed goal, but you can probably make your point in a civilized manner that most people can understand and agree with without making things up.

 

[Slats432]

I always thought that having these tournaments in Canada is a great thing for hockey, but boy was I wrong. Hosting a tournament and cheating like that is just the lowest level you can get.

Man, some fans are setting back Perestroika by decades.

The honourable thing to do is to commend on a fine battle and look forward to the opportunity to battle again. That is what I was taught, and with my Ukrainian roots, it comes from both sides of the ocean.

It is dishonourable to yell "cheated" when you can shake the hand of the opponent and congratulate. Learn from your mistakes and come back next time, stronger.

I love the Russian style of game. As for the diving, there were one or two, but Downie did it just as many.(There is zero difference between Downie and Shirokov in my books. Although in Canada we revel in the agitator, but complain about the diver. Same thing.)

Anyways, unfortunate the goal didn't count. I would have liked to see that game better than the one we saw because I am sure that the Russians would have been motivated by the goal.

Congrats to Russia for a good effort. See you in the Olympics.

 

[jcorb58]

First off, a BIG congratulations to team Canada!

I was at the game and although I was dissapointed at the outcome, I enjoyed the game. I was a little upset at the officiating at times (probably because to me it seemed that Russia was perpetually on the penalty kill) and was really upset at Russia for losing its composure. There are plenty of "what-ifs" like the Russian goal being counted and Malkin doing some checking and not letting Canada score on its 6th shot when Russia was dominating with 15 already... but thats not what hockey is about. Hats off to Canada, you guys came out and did what you had to do... you FULLY deserve the victory and the gold medal!


Siberian, Chinaski, ect can get a little to emotional at times: its only a dose of healthy patriotism, dont pick on them too much. Anyways, I hope for a rematch next year, great game and once again: CONGRATS!





PS: With such a young team winning gold this year, I wouldn't be surprised if Canada extended its gold medal streak as the players get older and better.

Thank you , nice to see a person that doesnt let the outcome of a game reduce him /her to a classless individual. This yr we caught a few bounces and won with a team that perhaps wasnt as talented as team russia but checked their egos at the door and completely bought into a team concept. I never seen that with the more talented Russian or American teams. We have learned many things from each others training techniques and approach to the game. We have been at the opposite end of those unfortunate bounces and have lost final games to both the russians and the americans. Time has proven that any team can win any game. Congradulations to the Finnish team that won the bronze metal. And to the Americans that unfortutately lost that game, you can have 11 returning players
next yr. Your hockey program has made incredable leaps since Lk Placid. Now when you win it is expected and no miracle. Too all those that believe we had no talent on this yrs team remember we still had 11 first round draft picks. Teams must sacrifice individual accomplishments to be successful and i feel this years Gold medal winner empitomizes that. Good work boys. Job well done

 

[PecaFan]

Let's imagine that after the face-off following the missed goal, Canada runs up and scores, and only after this do we get video evidence that a goal was scored earlier by Russia. Do you disallow the Canada goal, re-allow the Russian goal, and turn back the clock?! And what happens if we have the face-off following the Canada goal before the missed goal is confirmed by video replay? Now, as I stated above, the rulebook explicity indicates that a goal cannot be disallowed following a face-off, so we can't possibly disallow the Canada goal now. We would just have to re-allow the Russia goal and carry on with play, which seems a very unsatisfactory solution. If we follow your interpretation then we seem to have two contradictory rules!

And what would have happened had a bomb gone off in the building?
Right, that didn't happen either, so we don't have to deal with that speculation. Other situations might have different rules and outcomes. We only have to deal with what actually happened.

The Vancouver Sun reports today that what actually happened was that the Russians demanded the goal get reviewed, the ref went to the timekeeper box, and the video goal judge ruled the puck never went into the net.

This goal wasn't counted because of outright incompetence, not a rules judgment.

 

[Bloggins]

And what would have happened had a bomb gone off in the building?
Right, that didn't happen either, so we don't have to deal with that speculation. Other situations might have different rules and outcomes. We only have to deal with what actually happened.

The Vancouver Sun reports today that what actually happened was that the Russians demanded the goal get reviewed, the ref went to the timekeeper box, and the video goal judge ruled the puck never went into the net.

This goal wasn't counted because of outright incompetence, not a rules judgment.

The reporter from the Vancouver Sun, Mr Kingston, was interviewed on the local radio station here this afternoon. There were no requests to review the goal until after there were two more whistles. Dead topic at that point.
And if it did it really wouldn't have changed the outcome of this game. If the game ended anywhere near close I could see this debate, but please, it doesn't matter at this point.

 

[McGuillicuddy]

And what would have happened had a bomb gone off in the building?
Right, that didn't happen either, so we don't have to deal with that speculation. Other situations might have different rules and outcomes. We only have to deal with what actually happened.

The Vancouver Sun reports today that what actually happened was that the Russians demanded the goal get reviewed, the ref went to the timekeeper box, and the video goal judge ruled the puck never went into the net.

This goal wasn't counted because of outright incompetence, not a rules judgment.

Dude, you've totally missed the point. Completely.

 

[anothercanucklehead]

When the goal was not counted, my first reaction was to say "Noooo don't let us win this way!!" Didn't you notice the reaction of the crowd when it was announced the goal didn't count? Their applause was rather hesitant (at least it seemed that way to me). My second reaction was that I was nervous because I thought Russia would come back hard to regain the lost goal. Russia did come back hard .. for a little while ... until they gave up the game altogether. Russian players were given some lenience after that lost goal and some outright penalties weren't called against them. Even the Canadian broadcasters noticed that. Surely all you knowledgeable Russians did too?

And if you are talking about missed penalties, maybe we should bring up the time the Russian goalie threw that hockey stick 30 ft. (or whatever it was) in the air???? There was no penalty called there. How come you aren't complaining about that one?

As a British Columbian, I was proud to see that the fans behaved themselves last night. I hope they did during the US/Finland game too? It is unfortunate that a few drunken fans (and I was told by someone who was at many of the games that it was the drunks that were booing) tarnished many people's perceptions of all Canadians. Although I am certainly not excusing that terrible behaviour, we all know it wasn't the first nor will it be the last time an American team is booed because of their government's foreign policy. It's unfortunate but the price the American people are forced to pay for the actions of their government.

Congrats to all the teams. HUGE congrats to Canada for the gold. Kudos to the Russian players for reacting to their loss with class. Congrats to Finland for their surprise bronze. I was cheering for the US (after Canada, of course). I'm sorry that they didn't win a medal. I really wanted it to be a US/Canada gold medal game so I could gloat to all my American friends and relatives lol.

 

[Fryer]

a linguistic question to TSN

What is a Canadian word for "sportsmanship"?