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Junohockeyfan said:
I don't think so anymore. Should get a 2nd at a minimum.
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Yup.
We can hope for a first, but a 2nd is closer to historical prices for bottom 6 C. Adding a 3d or a 4th would be nice.
I expect if moved Hughes will look at 2027 picks, as we have plenty in the short term.
 
pth2 said:
Yup.
We can hope for a first, but a 2nd is closer to historical prices for bottom 6 C. Adding a 3d or a 4th would be nice.
I expect if moved Hughes will look at 2027 picks, as we have plenty in the short term.
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Logic dictates the Habs won't get a 1st. But then Hughes transcends logic and inevitably gets one...

I always get burned when second guessing the Habs.
 
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i think a 1st isn't out of the question, especially if more pieces are added. Evans is a very good very affordable player. He would make any contender better
 
HuGort said:
They got young players coming up to take their place
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Yes!........and no..
I think we can fairly say that Beck will take a 3C or 4C seat for the habs in the future and Mailloux should get a spot at RD at some point, which would fill both holes created by those departures.

however, neither are able to do as much or more than these players at this exact moment. Mailloux should bring more than Savard eventually, but right now, his D play is way behind. Beck supposedly is like an Evans with more offense - but how many years does it take for him to reach Evans, who is now in his prime?

It isn't just a matter of getting rid of aging folks in favor of young ones and its not just popping a youngster in a position where you project he will be throughout his career and expect the same results right now as the one who you are replacing. There are cases where keeping that old fart in place and giving the young fart #1 minutes in laval is better.

I'll mention especially that those two (Evans and Savard) are great examples of professionals that kids should aspire to be like. That's a lot of positiive leadership to take out of the lockeroom at once.
 
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Monsieur Verdoux said:
He has 4 points in his last 20 games, so he hasn't done any favors to increase his value lately. A 1st round pick for him... I wouldn't pay it.
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At the same time, Hughes is not getting calls for the points Evans puts up; its all about the defensive missions he is on. He is succeeding on a team that is (arguably) not.

That said, i didnt realize it before now, but Evans is 2 points from his career high with 25 games left.
 
Gaud said:
At the same time, Hughes is not getting calls for the points Evans puts up; its all about the defensive missions he is on. He is succeeding on a team that is (arguably) not.

That said, i didnt realize it before now, but Evans is 2 points from his career high with 25 games left.
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This dip in production should help lowerthe caphit the Habs will re-sign him with! ;)
 
The thing is that the team that will trade for Evans will want to upgrade on the faceoff dot, PK and have a good shutdown center that can play in any situation. Evans is a dream player for the coaches but the most boring player to the fans. If you ask a coach if he would pay a late 1st for him, they would say absolutely. I am not saying he is worth a 1st but that the coaches love this type of players
 
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Even after the huge cold streak he’s still shooting 19% with a career high on ice SH%. I don’t see him bringing back a 1st with how few are even owned by contenders at the deadline. He’s likely a 4th liner on a good team.
 
Maitz said:
The thing is that the team that will trade for Evans will want to upgrade on the faceoff dot, PK and have a good shutdown center that can play in any situation. Evans is a dream player for the coaches but the most boring player to the fans. If you ask a coach if he would pay a late 1st for him, they would say absolutely. I am not saying he is worth a 1st but that the coaches love this type of players
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Even more boring yet effective is Dvorak. Watching him play is like watching paint dry, yet he's reasonably effective.
 
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All signs point toward Evans being traded for a 2nd round pick and an “nhl” ready or close to ready player.

I don’t know, I feel like we should push to get a first round pick. At least those can be flipped at the draft for young NHLer who can help us next year
 
Baksfamous112 said:
All signs point toward Evans being traded for a 2nd round pick and an “nhl” ready or close to ready player.

I don’t know, I feel like we should push to get a first round pick. At least those can be flipped at the draft for young NHLer who can help us next year
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Given how our pro scouting has let us down, I'd prefer draft picks to actually draft with.

Of young, drafted players Montreal traded for, Newhook, Dach, Barron, Smilanic have all disappointed to a varying extent, only Heinemann is living up to his billing.
 
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Junohockeyfan said:
Just as long as they don’t include Heineman.
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Heineman is easily more valuable than Evans right now.

Heineman's just turned 23 as a rookie, is fast, physical, big, good defensively, shoots well, reasonably-talented, and thinks the game well overall.

Then there's also the fact that Heineman's produced a lot of offense for not a lot of minutes and mostly defensive assignments on a bad team.

So yeah, if Heineman builds up on his performance this season next year and beyond, he could be a foundational type of piece on the bottom-6 for Montreal.

Jake Evans would be nice to re-sign too, but in the current market it might just be better for Montreal to trade him and try to replace him internally (Beck, Kapanen, and Xhekaj are showing extremely well in their respective leagues and could be good 3rd/4th liners in the future).

Oh, and Evans likely won't be traded for a 2nd-round pick.

The Canadiens already have multiple second-round picks in this year's draft and also next year's, so chances are high that they'd rather package Evans with additional picks/players to obtain a first-round pick in either the 2025 or 2026 drafts.

Basically, quality instead of just getting more quantity in the case of an eventual Evans trade.
 
JadedRandom said:
Oh, and Evans likely won't be traded for a 2nd-round pick.

The Canadiens already have multiple second-round picks in this year's draft and also next year's, so chances are high that they'd rather package Evans with additional picks/players to obtain a first-round pick in either the 2025 or 2026 drafts.

Basically, quality instead of just getting more quantity in the case of an eventual Evans trade.
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This is what every selling fanbase says.

It's not generally the reality.

If it was, you'd see it happen every year with a bunch of teams packaging quantity for 1sts. But it really doesn't happen that way
 
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JadedRandom said:
Heineman is easily more valuable than Evans right now.

Heineman's just turned 23 as a rookie, is fast, physical, big, good defensively, shoots well, reasonably-talented, and thinks the game well overall.

Then there's also the fact that Heineman's produced a lot of offense for not a lot of minutes and mostly defensive assignments on a bad team.

So yeah, if Heineman builds up on his performance this season next year and beyond, he could be a foundational type of piece on the bottom-6 for Montreal.

Jake Evans would be nice to re-sign too, but in the current market it might just be better for Montreal to trade him and try to replace him internally (Beck, Kapanen, and Xhekaj are showing extremely well in their respective leagues and could be good 3rd/4th liners in the future).

Oh, and Evans likely won't be traded for a 2nd-round pick.

The Canadiens already have multiple second-round picks in this year's draft and also next year's, so chances are high that they'd rather package Evans with additional picks/players to obtain a first-round pick in either the 2025 or 2026 drafts.

Basically, quality instead of just getting more quantity in the case of an eventual Evans trade.
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I presume sometimes a team will take a bit less of an offer to send a player outside the division in a trade but with an expiring UFA with 15 minutes to go before the deadline the best offer is what it is. Maybe it's a first but maybe it's not. Still a few games to go before the deadline but the pointless games keep piling up for him. I get that he's primarily a defensive guy but his stat line is starting to read like a fourth liner not a third liner.
 
Guy Larose said:
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i mean that's a pretty easy resign for me, 5 years is fine and 4M for what he does is also fine, there's not a lot of guys in the league that can do what he does (as good as him), he's the perfect shutdown 3C/4C

ideally you want him at 3.5M but whats 500k for a guy who grew up with the org, he's part of the culture of the team
 
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