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I'm curious why Habs fans across the board seemingly think 560gp 30pt career high Joel Armia is seen as valuable ? Has the fan base given up on getting anything of value for Josh Anderson so this is your new pet project ?

...cuz there's more to the NHL than POINTS...guys like Armia, Evans, & Anderson (overpaid, yes) provide the other aspects; PKing, forechecking, physicality...a team full of offensive players only is Edmonton a decade ago, Fluffabo now...if you can't see value in players who do all the little things so that the offensive guys can concentrate on scoring, then that's your problem...
 
A conditional 2nd, nothing more especially while Donato is the better player on the market
They aren't even remotely comparable. Evans once again leads all forwards in shorthanded ice time while Donato doesn't even have 2.5 minutes of shorthanded ice time this season.

He and Armia are excellent on the PK and the exact type of bottom 6 players you'd want in a playoff run.
 
I'm curious why Habs fans across the board seemingly think 560gp 30pt career high Joel Armia is seen as valuable ? Has the fan base given up on getting anything of value for Josh Anderson so this is your new pet project ?
Armia is a dream in the playoffs. Forechecks and PKs well, puck control/possession monster, one of very few bottom 6 players able to create his own offense out of nothing. Obviously he's not a perfect player and you wouldn't want him in your top 6 but he absolutely has value.
 
I'm curious why Habs fans across the board seemingly think 560gp 30pt career high Joel Armia is seen as valuable ? Has the fan base given up on getting anything of value for Josh Anderson so this is your new pet project ?
Armia has value, do you think we would give you assets so you can add him to your team?
 
Saw the report that the Habs and Evans "aren't close" in negotiations. I'm confused by this unless it's just pure posturing by Evans' agent...which is probably the case.

4.2M coming off their cap, after this season from retentions. Only Armia/Savard/Dvorak/Evans to re-sign...and the cap is going up 8M, when you are going to start off with 71.5M in cap with 10.5 overage from Price's LTI-Retire.

The Habs have 24M (basically 34M with Price) to spend to get to the Cap. Unless Evans is asking for more than 6m+, you just pay the man. Not like they have to worry about it one year later.
 
I was just looking at Laine’s contract to see what a package of Laine with Evans would cost and I had no idea he has a cap hit of 8.7 million per year. That’s a rough one haha. Devils definitely can’t fit that one.

Devils still have some good B prospects. Maybe one of them with a 3rd or something for Evans gets it done.

Devils also have Gritsyuk who plays with Demidov but I’m not sure Fitz would trade him for a rental or if he wants to trade him at all.
 
Saw the report that the Habs and Evans "aren't close" in negotiations. I'm confused by this unless it's just pure posturing by Evans' agent...which is probably the case.

4.2M coming off their cap, after this season from retentions. Only Armia/Savard/Dvorak/Evans to re-sign...and the cap is going up 8M, when you are going to start off with 71.5M in cap with 10.5 overage from Price's LTI-Retire.

The Habs have 24M (basically 34M with Price) to spend to get to the Cap. Unless Evans is asking for more than 6m+, you just pay the man. Not like they have to worry about it one year later.
Could be posturing by his agent or Habs GM TBH, in the end he will want the best deal he can get compared to market value and HAbs GM will want to get him for less then market value. Deals are made when both sides give a little either on term or dollars. Neither side owes the other any loyalty, it’s a business and a process as both sides try’s to get a bit more their way.
 
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Habs have probably the deepest prospect pool in the league. The only interesting piece would be RHD with size, but your best option would be Cheslock and he is not even B prospect.
Can’t trade any NHL ready defenders right now with the playoffs still being in the picture and Seigenthaler being injured probably long term.
 
Can’t trade any NHL ready defenders right now with the playoffs still being in the picture and Seigenthaler being injured probably long term.
Sure, it does not make sense for you to fix one hole and create a different one. For Habs, only interesting pieces from Devils would be Nemec or 1st round pick. Of course, Habs would need to add in that case.
 
Sure, it does not make sense for you to fix one hole and create a different one. For Habs, only interesting pieces from Devils would be Nemec or 1st round pick. Of course, Habs would need to add in that case.
While I understand those are the pieces that interest the Montreal fans I don’t see Fitz (or any GM) trading assets that are that valuable for a 3c. Especially for a rental.

Fitz seems very interested in Evans. I guess we’ll see if it gets done but I have a feeling one of us is going to be disappointed with the return if it does.
 
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Pierre Lebrun just said Habs and Evans contract negotiations are stalled.

He said both sides are far apart.

I personally don't think HuGo will risk losing him for nothing if its not done before TD.

Furthermore, Habs actual free fall in the standings will surely finish to convince Habs brass to trade him...

A 2nd + b prospect?

I doubt it is serious. "Stalled" is not very specific. If the GM offers something, the agent counteroffers and the GM says "it doesnt quite work for us, we'll get back to you" and then crunches numbers, moves money, etc. It's not really stalled. I would absolutely give a deadline before the TDL if i were hughes.

hows his faceoff and speed? would be nice fit for vancouver.
Faceoffs are solid, speed id say is a little bit better than average, but that could just be because of his IQ and positionning. He is like a poor man's Danault.
 
I'm curious why Habs fans across the board seemingly think 560gp 30pt career high Joel Armia is seen as valuable ? Has the fan base given up on getting anything of value for Josh Anderson so this is your new pet project ?
I'd say Anderson and Armia had zero value before this season - some might even say negative value. Both are frustrating in the sense that they have tools to be much better offensively - size, puck control, physicality.

The difference this year is that MSL somehow convinced them both to take on more defensive roles and both are doing better. For Armia, he is good at getting the puck and his puck control (specifically keeping it from an opponent) is elite and he has used this with a focus on D and it's working for him. I'd like to add that Armia also generally has good playoffs.

That said, neither are worth 1st rounders and especially not with those salaries.
 
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While I understand those are the pieces that interest the Montreal fans I don’t see Fitz (or any GM) trading assets that are that valuable for a 3c. Especially for a rental.

Fitz seems very interested in Evans. I guess we’ll see if it gets done but I have a feeling one of us is going to be disappointed with the return if it does.
Sure, if I said Habs would need to add something, I actually meant the significant piece like 2025 Cgy 1st + Evans+ Struble (as replacement for Siegenthaler) for Nemec.
In the end, both sides have to approve the deal, so you need to package something interesting to convince Habs. I assume there would be at least 5 teams asking for Evans and 2nd would be the starting point.
 
I'm curious why Habs fans across the board seemingly think 560gp 30pt career high Joel Armia is seen as valuable ? Has the fan base given up on getting anything of value for Josh Anderson so this is your new pet project ?
They don’t. They universally hate him and want him off the team.
 
Sure, if I said Habs would need to add something, I actually meant the significant piece like 2025 Cgy 1st + Evans+ Struble (as replacement for Siegenthaler) for Nemec.
In the end, both sides have to approve the deal, so you need to package something interesting to convince Habs. I assume there would be at least 5 teams asking for Evans and 2nd would be the starting point.
From NJ’s perspective it doesn’t make sense to trade Nemec for a package. If his value has dropped then it would be a bad move to sell him while his value is low.

Fitz does seem interested in Evans which is why we’re here but if someone outbids him I doubt the Nj fanbase will be too upset.

Evans doesn’t play a top 6 position. What he brings seems to be important but not so important that the Devils should overpay for him. If the Devils are going to use a 1st or a good asset I would hope it’s for a ROR type. At least there’s still some term on his contract and he’s won a championship before.
 
They don’t. They universally hate him and want him off the team.

That's old news.

Since his recall from AHL last year, Armia has been as solid as a bottom 6er can be ..

17 goals last year and solid defensive play with timely offense this year.

NHL players value is like stock market, as their contribution rise/plummet, as goes their value...

And Armia has been a solid, not spectacular contributor since more than a year...
 

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