Montreal is inching ever closer to a playoff spot so it seems unlikely Evans is a trade chip unless they fall out of the race again.
Value of: Jake Evans
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Habs Halifax
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What contract do you think Evans gets as a UFA this July. Interested in hearing from non Habs fans.
Monahan just got 5x $5.5M and all GM's already knew the cap would be $92M for next year. Evans can't get that and I believe most agree. What are the predictions on his next contract and would your team want to sign him as a UFA.
Monahan just got 5x $5.5M and all GM's already knew the cap would be $92M for next year. Evans can't get that and I believe most agree. What are the predictions on his next contract and would your team want to sign him as a UFA.
Depending on term, im gonna guess somewhere in the 2.5 - 3.5 million range
I think about $12.5 million total divided up over anywhere from 3-5 years.
He will be 29 to start next season.
$2.5 AAV x 5 for his 29 thru 33 aged seasons.
$3.135 AAV x 4 for his 29 thru 32 aged seasons.
$4.167 AAV x 3 for his 29 thru 31 aged seasons.
I mean $2.5 seems like a team friendly number but that cap hit will stick for a while and he’s probably not gonna shoot 23% again.
$4 million seems high but you get his prime years and then he’s off the books. We’ve seen worse players get “4” short term on rebuilding teams to guide development and then fall off the ledger when the bill for young talent comes due.
If I’m Evans and his agent - this is really my one chance to cash in. I’d say the total contract is more important than how the AAV breaks down - though obviously that will be important from the team side.
He will be 29 to start next season.
$2.5 AAV x 5 for his 29 thru 33 aged seasons.
$3.135 AAV x 4 for his 29 thru 32 aged seasons.
$4.167 AAV x 3 for his 29 thru 31 aged seasons.
I mean $2.5 seems like a team friendly number but that cap hit will stick for a while and he’s probably not gonna shoot 23% again.
$4 million seems high but you get his prime years and then he’s off the books. We’ve seen worse players get “4” short term on rebuilding teams to guide development and then fall off the ledger when the bill for young talent comes due.
If I’m Evans and his agent - this is really my one chance to cash in. I’d say the total contract is more important than how the AAV breaks down - though obviously that will be important from the team side.
more like 3M-4M, 3M for long term contract, 4M for a shorter term
i'll predict something like 3.5M for 6 years
No more than 100k per point for bottom 6ers
Love the player though hope we can keep him
I don’t respect it, but have a good day
Love the player though hope we can keep him
I respect your opinion
I don’t respect it, but have a good day
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BigDaddyLurch
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...why would you give him 6 years??...he'll turn 29 at the end of the season and has been a banger all his career...he'll be even more cooked than Gallagher by year 5 at the most...4 year max, imo...
Habs Halifax
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I think Evans and his agent are after more AAV than that and will go to UFA to find out. Habs would easily extend him in the $2.5M - $3.5M AAV range for any term. I think he is after $4M+ and when you look at the shortage of 3C's in the NHL, he might get it.
Habs Halifax
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Gallagher's skating was the real reason why he fell off a cliff in his 30+ years. He's getting smothered with the time/space area. Danault really sheltered him and the massive drop happened after Danault walked.
Evans is a late bloomer. He is one of those types that has gradually improved year/year. Evans's skating and compete level is very strong. 6 years would be from age 29-34. I'd be open to that if the AAV was $3.25M. I personally don't believe he will decline like Gallagher. I think Evans is like a C Coyle type.
6x $3.5M is something I can see us open to. Ideally, we prefer 3 years IMO. The AAV in whatever term het gets, has to make sense.
I do wonder if we use deferred salary in Evan's case. Maybe we do 6 years at $3M with $6M in payments when he is 40+
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Same style player, but coyle definitely has a better scoring touch. 5-6 seasons of 45-60 points, where Evans hasnt broken 30pts yet.
Evans at 3.5 is decent. 4+ might be an overpay
Habs Halifax
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It's an interesting dilemma. Evans is having his best season at the right time. Have we not seen this before? Problem is we don't know if he continues it or fades after he gets the deal. From what I know, Evans is not the type to be complacent but that is just my guess. Also, this is deeper than just points with Evans. It's the stuff he provides beyond the points where he true value is. 200' game, forecheck, penalty kill, faceoffs.
I think $4M is the right AAV but for a 3 year term. If the term is 5 or 6 years, I prefer $3.5M or lower. He's one I would consider deferred payments when he is 40+
I guess a fair statement is Evans is a Coyle lite. Coyle is more like a middle 2C and Evans is more like a solid 3C.
Id probably agree in all points made.
My argument would be that Coyle, also, provides the same type of defensive dynamic, but coincidentally, hes having sort of a down year.
Regardless, Evans is probably the type of player montreal should keep, as the team seems to he progressing toward a playofff contender.
Habs Halifax
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Do you think Coyle's down year is Bruins related or Coyle age related? I like to believe he still has some gas left in the tank.
I would prefer to keep Evans but for 3 years. This overlaps Demidov's ELC and also allows us to monitor how good Hage, Kapanen, Beck are. None of those 3 are ready for a full time 3C role for at least 2 years IMO. Not if the Habs want to be a playoff team.
If Evans ask for too much and a team offers a 25-32 range 1st, I'm trading him and knocking on the door about Gourde. Leafs seem to like him a lot but our 2nd or 3rd rounder will trump theirs. I'd be open to extending Gourde for 1 or 2 years as a stop gap. He should get less than Evans in AAV at age 33. If the offers are 2nd rounder at best, I might just stay put and let Evans expire. Habs have lots of picks in this next draft and our pool is loaded with B and B+ types.
3rd line would be Heineman / Gourde / Newhook and that is decent. Two guys who can play center on the same line with Heineman who is a work horse and a young player who will improve even more. Heineman is underrated
I think boston's and coyle's down year is a coalition. The vets like coyle arent getting any better. Maybe a slight regression. Those prime years are over.
As a leaf fan, im not one of the one's who has much interest in gourde. Leafs have been filling the bottom 6 with bigger guys who play a heavier game.
I am interested in what the habs will do to fill out their roster for next year. How they give out these contracts will affect them once the young guys come off elc's. You guys have a lot of options with the emergence of hutson and demidov coming over. Lots of young talent.
Habs Halifax
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Didn't realize you were a Leafs fan. Hope you guys go on a run. I predicted Leafs/Oilers final last year and maybe I was a year to early. I'm predicting it again this year. When I look at the top 10 teams, the Leafs and Oilers have decent depth behind their core. Other contenders have more depth issues IMO. And we have to assume both the Leafs and Oilers add.
Habs have a good structure right now with our contracts. One of Bergevin's gifts he left us with, was Suzuki's contract. Suzuiki, Caufield, Slaf, and Guhle are on good deals while the cap is expected to grow a lot. Hutson will test our cap structure and I think Demidov will as well but that's 3 more years
Here is what is interesting with the Habs. We are at a tipping point with Bergevin youth he added vs what Gorton/Hughes have added. This is the season where the Hughes adds are starting to become more valuable. Many people won't admit it, but Hughes did not start from scratch with his rebuild.
Suzuki, Caufield, Guhle, Romanov, Xhekaj, Mailloux, Kapanen, Dobes, Roy, Struble
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Hutson, Demidov, Slaf, Dach, Reinbacher, Hage, Fowler, Beck, Engstrom, F Xhekaj
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he doesn't play a grueling style like Gally does and relies on his hockey IQ the most (those type of players age well), also i said i predict he'll get that much which means i think that's what management is gonna have to give him so he doesn't hit the UFA market, he could easily get 6 years and more money as a UFA
ya ideally he takes 5 years or 4 years but i doubt he would, it's not about what me or you want it's about what's realistic and what he can get on the UFA market for his play
