Value of: Jake Evans

[dgibb10]

No it won't. Are you new to hockey and trades ? If you aren't, then poor you.

Virtually every single NHL trade is built around comps lmao

 

[Andrei79]

Virtually every single NHL trade is built around comps lmao

Are you having issues with reading ? We're talking about Eller and Evans. What 35 year old Eller was traded for has nothing to do with what career year, in his prime, right handed center Evans could be traded for at the TDL. Poor you, you actually believe what you're writing.

 

[dgibb10]

Are you having issues with reading ? We're talking about Eller and Evans. What 35 year old Eller was traded for has nothing to do with what career year, in his prime, right handed center Evans could be traded for at the TDL. Poor you, you actually believe what you're writing.

Similar quality rental bottom 6 Cs. If you really want you can go back to other times eller was traded, as a rental for a 2nd as another mark, or when he had 2 full years of term and went for a pair of 2nds

Or are we pretending 27% shooting, 15% on ice shooting is something that can actually be expected to last for evans?

"Guys please trust that this career 8% shooter suddenly became the best shooter in the league. I promise this is totally legit please buy it"

 

[Andrei79]

Similar quality rental bottom 6 Cs. If you really want you can go back to other times eller was traded, as a rental for a 2nd as another mark, or when he had 2 full years of term and went for a pair of 2nds

Or are we pretending 27% shooting, 15% on ice shooting is something that can actually be expected to last for evans?

"Guys please trust that this career 8% shooter suddenly became the best shooter in the league. I promise this is totally legit please buy it"

Unlike you, management teams watch the games and know how valuable Evans is. Evans can play any position, on any line, in any situation. He uses his wingers a lot better than Eller, he's very valuable defensively, he has a great shot, skates well, has high compete and he's also right handed. He would also be traded at the deadline, where prices go up significantly compared to the rest of the year. This is something someone who watches and follows hockey would know. Take the L and move on, you're out of your element here it's frankly sad to see.

 

[viceroy]

Realistic return would be a 3rd round pick. Not enough offence to garner an earlier pick and not physical enough to garner an earlier pick.

Disagree. Late 1st is what I'm expecting.

I don't think it's likely, but I'd ask for it as the Habs. But I'd also be trying to re-sign him in the 3-3.5 range before trading him

Talk is he's looking for 4-4.5 AAV though.

Evans having good year. We trying to sign him first.

Don't think so. Evans has said it's crickets from management's side.

 

[dgibb10]

Unlike you, management teams watch the games and know how valuable Evans is. Evans can play any position, on any line, in any situation. He uses his wingers a lot better than Evans, he's very valuable defensively, he has a great shot, skates well, has high compete and he's also right handed. He would also be traded at the deadline, where prices go up significantly compared to the rest of the year. This is something someone who watches and follows hockey would know. Take the L and move on, you're out of your element here.

No, the ability to have retention on pieces down to very small cap hits boosts value at the deadline. But if you're that concerned about deadline value, you can use Eller to the Avs as a benchmark there.

Eller is also incredibly versatile, very good defensively, and has a high compete level. Outside of this shooting luck, they are very similar assets.

Personally I'd prefer Eller, but he's been traded already.

 

[Andrei79]

No, the ability to have retention on pieces down to very small cap hits boosts value at the deadline. But if you're that concerned about deadline value, you can use Eller to the Avs as a benchmark there.

Eller is also incredibly versatile, very good defensively, and has a high compete level. Outside of this shooting luck, they are very similar assets.

Personally I'd prefer Eller, but he's been traded already.

So, value does go up at the TDL. Good to know. You may carry on and be a clown on another subject now.

 

[dgibb10]

So, value does go up at the TDL. Good to know. You may carry on and be a clown on another subject now.

Eller was having a better season in 22-23 than he is this year.

If teams could vastly reduce prices by buying earlier, all of those teams would buy earlier and trade deadline wouldn't be a thing at all. There is a minimal impact mostly due to retention and accrued cap space (for some teams). It doesn't really apply to a guy making a small amount like Evans/Eller

It applies more to the difference for Zadorov for example at 4 mill full contract, vs 2 mill for a quarter year

 

[Andrei79]

Eller was having a better season in 22-23 than he is this year.

If teams could vastly reduce prices by buying earlier, all of those teams would buy earlier and trade deadline wouldn't be a thing at all. There is a minimal impact mostly due to retention and accrued cap space (for some teams). It doesn't really apply to a guy making a small amount like Evans/Eller

It applies more to the difference for Zadorov for example at 4 mill full contract, vs 2 mill for a quarter year

Man, what a brutal post completely disconnected from the realities of an NHL season and how management's approach their rosters.

Also, you do know 22-23 Eller had the worst season in his career right ? And still went for a 2nd.

You just keep coming up with these bangers.

I also saw your awful post pre-edit. Brutal man, just brutal.

 

[dirtydanglez]

i could see evans getting a lehkonen like return at the deadline

 

[dgibb10]

Man, what a brutal post completely disconnected from the realities of an NHL season and how management's approach their rosters.

Also, you do know 22-23 Eller had the worst season in his career right ? And still went for a 2nd.

You just keep coming up with these bangers.

He didn't have his worst season outside of some below average shooting luck.

You seem to struggle to look beyond point totals tho

Since prices are so much lower not at the deadline, I will send all my offers for evans now. Not at the deadline. Does that work for MTL? They'll take less right now since it isn't at the deadline right?

i could see evans getting a lehkonen like return at the deadline

Lehkonen was an RFA

 

[dgibb10]

Man, what a brutal post completely disconnected from the realities of an NHL season and how management's approach their rosters.

Also, you do know 22-23 Eller had the worst season in his career right ? And still went for a 2nd.

You just keep coming up with these bangers.

I also saw your awful post pre-edit. Brutal man, just brutal.

The edit where I corrected 21-22 to 22-23?

And then added the point about how big cap hits actually have an impact like Zadorov for example?

 

[Bouboumaster]

Fleece him or flip him

100% this

Sign this man for as long as possible, especially if we can have him for under 3M$

 

[Andrei79]

He didn't have his worst season outside of some below average shooting luck.

You seem to struggle to look beyond point totals tho

Since prices are so much lower not at the deadline, I will send all my offers for evans now. Not at the deadline. Does that work for MTL? They'll take less right now since it isn't at the deadline right?

He had his worst season. Caps fans couldn't believe they got a second. Heck, you can read their thread and one even mentions they never would have gotten that value earlier in the season lmao.

And again with a ridiculous understanding of how an NHL season works. That last paragraph is so dumb in the context of what each team is trying to achieve now and until TDL/the end of the season it's not even worth talking about. The fact that you don't understand what I mean says it all, you're out of your element in these discussions and should stick to hyping Luke Hughes. It's easy and well within your means.

 

[dgibb10]

He had his worst season. Caps fans couldn't believe they got a second. Heck, you can read their thread and one even mentions they never would have gotten that value earlier in the season lmao.

And again with a ridiculous understanding of how an NHL season works. That last paragraph is so dumb in the context of what each team is trying to achieve now and until TDL/the end of the season it's not even worth talking about. The fact that you don't understand what I mean says it all, you're out of your element in these discussions and should stick to hyping Like Hughes. It's easy and well within your means.

More trades occur at the deadline yes, due to accrual of cap space combined with retention making movement easier

And prices are significantly higher at the deadline than in the OFFSEASON, 100%. Since in the offseason, the alternative is a boatload of freely available UFAs.

"Prices are higher at the deadline but we won't accept less right now but I promise he's worth more at the deadline"

 

[MXD]

Virtually every single NHL trade is built around comps lmao

Similar quality rental bottom 6 Cs. If you really want you can go back to other times eller was traded, as a rental for a 2nd as another mark, or when he had 2 full years of term and went for a pair of 2nds

Or are we pretending 27% shooting, 15% on ice shooting is something that can actually be expected to last for evans?

"Guys please trust that this career 8% shooter suddenly became the best shooter in the league. I promise this is totally legit please buy it"

No, the ability to have retention on pieces down to very small cap hits boosts value at the deadline. But if you're that concerned about deadline value, you can use Eller to the Avs as a benchmark there.

Eller is also incredibly versatile, very good defensively, and has a high compete level. Outside of this shooting luck, they are very similar assets.

Personally I'd prefer Eller, but he's been traded already.

Eller was having a better season in 22-23 than he is this year.

If teams could vastly reduce prices by buying earlier, all of those teams would buy earlier and trade deadline wouldn't be a thing at all. There is a minimal impact mostly due to retention and accrued cap space (for some teams). It doesn't really apply to a guy making a small amount like Evans/Eller

It applies more to the difference for Zadorov for example at 4 mill full contract, vs 2 mill for a quarter year

He didn't have his worst season outside of some below average shooting luck.

You seem to struggle to look beyond point totals tho

Since prices are so much lower not at the deadline, I will send all my offers for evans now. Not at the deadline. Does that work for MTL? They'll take less right now since it isn't at the deadline right?


Lehkonen was an RFA

The edit where I corrected 21-22 to 22-23?

And then added the point about how big cap hits actually have an impact like Zadorov for example?

More trades occur at the deadline yes, due to accrual of cap space combined with retention making movement easier

And prices are significantly higher at the deadline than in the OFFSEASON, 100%. Since in the offseason, the alternative is a boatload of freely available UFAs.

You know, if you gaslight yourself 7 times, it doesn't stop being self-gaslighting at a certain point. It remains self-gaslighting.

 

[dgibb10]

You know, if you gaslight yourself 7 times, it doesn't stop being self-gaslighting at a certain point. It remains self-gaslighting.

Throw out another buzzword.

 

[viceroy]

Sign this man for as long as possible, especially if we can have him for under 3M$

The man's looking for 4.5 AAV. Get a 1st for him and call it a day.

 

[dirtydanglez]

The man's looking for 4.5 AAV. Get a 1st for him and call it a day.

is he really? i thought $3.5m would be market for him.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

A non-conditional 1st rounder for Evans? You've all lost your collective freaking minds.

They told us the same for Lehkonen, Monahan, Chiarot, Kulak(2nd)...

 

[HuGort]

If Montreal climbs back in race Evans not available. Habs 7-4 since Laine return

 

[viceroy]

is he really? i thought $3.5m would be market for him.

Yeah that's the talk about town. Can't blame him, this is going to be his one big contract.

 

[ole ole]

2nd + holmberg for Evans from Toronto, maybe a late round pick as well.

Ya keep adding.

 

[Jee]

Nah we good, he's staying

 

[HabzSauce]

Absolutely worth a first if he's traded