Player Discussion Jake DeBrusk

[credulous]

Realistically, he should be making $3.5-4 million per for what he actually brings to the table.

i dunno, i think his contract is fair for when it was signed. you're not getting a top six winger in ufa for 3.5-4m unless you get lucky and uncover an underappreciated player

the real problem is after boeser the canucks wingers are all not really ideal top 6 wingers. garland produces but has problems when playing with other good players. joshua is kind of limited offensively. sherwood, heinen and suter are all depth guys. if they had another top 6 winger to push debrusk down the lineup a bit he'd look a lot better imo

 

[Quinning]

i dunno, i think his contract is fair for when it was signed. you're not getting a top six winger in ufa for 3.5-4m unless you get lucky and uncover an underappreciated player

the real problem is after boeser the canucks wingers are all not really ideal top 6 wingers. garland produces but has problems when playing with other good players. joshua is kind of limited offensively. sherwood, heinen and suter are all depth guys. if they had another top 6 winger to push debrusk down the lineup a bit he'd look a lot better imo

You're ideally hoping Lekkermaki fills that role as he's on an ELC. But he doesn't look quite ready for that yet.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

in the debrusk role, what this team really needed was a latter day mikael samuelsson. a middle six winger with the hands to plug in and play a complementary role on a top line if needed but undervalued and getting paid like a middle sixer.

debrusk is that too, other than the money part. he’s probably at 1.5x the cost of the guy we ideally would want, although i don’t know that there was a sammy available this summer.

 

[sandwichbird2023]

in the debrusk role, what this team really needed was a latter day mikael samuelsson. a middle six winger with the hands to plug in and play a complementary role on a top line if needed but undervalued and getting paid like a middle sixer.

debrusk is that too, other than the money part. he’s probably at 1.5x the cost of the guy we ideally would want, although i don’t know that there was a sammy available this summer.

Maybe Sherwood is that guy then? He surprised me with his shot, and he can actually make plays, he is much more skilled than I gave him credit for. He is paid like a bottom 6 guy but you can plug him onto any line and he would perform well in any role, at least he has so far anyways.

 

[credulous]

Maybe Sherwood is that guy then? He surprised me with his shot, and he can actually make plays, he is much more skilled than I gave him credit for. He is paid like a bottom 6 guy but you can plug him onto any line and he would perform well in any role, at least he has so far anyways.

there were like 3-4 plays last night where his lack of offensive polish really showed and resulted in a blown chance. i like the player a lot but you're missing opportunities when you play him in the top six over a player with a more refined game

 

[lawrence]

debrusk has been fine for us.

he had 4 points in the first 5 games of the season. Followed by a 4 game game point drought, just around the time Petey started to struggle, (Petey is the main driver of that line, no doubt).

After that, Debrusk had 7 points in 8 game. this is also the same time Pettersson is starting to play much better, but now he has 0 points in his last 2 games, but prior to that 7 points 8 games, so I think hes fine, there are some extended droughts, but once he learns Tocchets system, I think he will be more consistent for us.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

DeBrusk hasn't started great. But with the cap going up, having a good all around second line winger for 5.5 million is going to look like a serious bargain soon. He's also a bit of a feast or famine guy who tends to thrive in tighter checking playoff style games. Let's not act like his story has been written after 18 games for a team still finding it's identity this year and struggling with injuries.

 

[F A N]

in the debrusk role, what this team really needed was a latter day mikael samuelsson. a middle six winger with the hands to plug in and play a complementary role on a top line if needed but undervalued and getting paid like a middle sixer.

debrusk is that too, other than the money part. he’s probably at 1.5x the cost of the guy we ideally would want, although i don’t know that there was a sammy available this summer.

I think what we needed was an elite winger to play with Petey. Failing that a legit top 6 winger who has at least a few prime years left. I think Debrusk is a legit top 6 winger so I think he’s a better fit than a modern day Samuelsson (who was 32 turning 33 the same year when we signed him). But ya I get your point and right now we have Sherwood vastly outperforming his contract.

 

[kanucks25]

Defended him early on but he does need to get going a bit here.

Has had a few too many uneventful games where he's looked a bit soft.

I think part of the reason he was given this contract was that management thought his game would take a step after the playoffs he had but that definitely hasn't happened, at least not yet.

That said, would like to see how he looks over the course of the season, and I think Debrusk - Miller - Boeser has the potential to be a very formidable line in the playoffs.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

How many games does he go without a goal once this heater is over? Hahahahaha.

Good game tonight.

 

[Bgav]

How many games does he go without a goal once this heater is over? Hahahahaha.

Good game tonight.

His picture should be next to 'streaky scorer' in the hockey dictionary

 

[Nucker101]

14 points in 20 games, 57 point pace

That’s petty much what you’d expect, in fact I’d expect lower if he isn’t full time pp1

 

[strattonius]

5.5M is a really low AAV, especially moving forward. It's basically the earnings of a fringe top 6 forward and that's kinda what Debrusk is; but Debrusk has some untapped upside and potentially career years with this contract.

Basically as inconsistent as he's been to start the year, I still think he's well worth his contract. I like his timely goals and his ability to score in close or from distance. Kind of reminds me of Tanner Pearson when he was in his prime.

 

[Icebreakers]

Well he's out producing Lindholm at 2.25m less while being 2 years younger. Can't really complain.

 

[Bobby9]

5.5M is a really low AAV, especially moving forward. It's basically the earnings of a fringe top 6 forward and that's kinda what Debrusk is; but Debrusk has some untapped upside and potentially career years with this contract.

Basically as inconsistent as he's been to start the year, I still think he's well worth his contract. I like his timely goals and his ability to score in close or from distance. Kind of reminds me of Tanner Pearson when he was in his prime.

Hell of a sentence

 

[strattonius]

Hell of a sentence

It's just a stylistic reference calm down.

Debrusk has more skill and scores more goals.

Both players have good size, good 2 way play, strong in front of the net especially with loose pucks and deflections, strong on the boards, and both can score from distance.

 

[F A N]

5.5M is a really low AAV, especially moving forward. It's basically the earnings of a fringe top 6 forward and that's kinda what Debrusk is; but Debrusk has some untapped upside and potentially career years with this contract.

Basically as inconsistent as he's been to start the year, I still think he's well worth his contract. I like his timely goals and his ability to score in close or from distance. Kind of reminds me of Tanner Pearson when he was in his prime.

I think Debrusk is definitely being paid to be a top 6 fixture. I mean if what you said is true, that's a lot for a "fringe top 6 forward": 7x$5.5M deal complete with some no trade/movement protection and signing bonuses.

Pearson in his prime is actually an interesting comparison. If you look at the contract the Kings gave him (which included RFA years) it was $3.75M AAV and his contract became a problem when he stopped producing consistent top 6 results. Contracts for mid-range players have been squeezed during the cap era so there's been some adjustment but pre-covid Debrusk would get $4-$4.5M. Summer 2016 (yes the Louie Eriksson year) was a bit of an anomoly I think.

 

[sting101]

That last page was tough to read.

Might want to wait more than 10-15 games before wanting to dump on a player adapting to a new team system and C's.

Wildly inconsistent but when he's cranked up he's really good and for 5.5 with the style that he plays it was an excellent target and addition. The term is the only concern

Last year we were 2 good wingers that had some power to their games away from having a contender type forward group. Debrusk is 1 more piece of the puzzle.

He's not super skilled on puck and he doesn't process quick enough when he's not completely engaged which leads to him looking more like a 4th liner than a top6 during those times and frustrating but it's also fair to give him some time to gel with teammates so he has less thinking to do. Has an excellent shot and nose for the net and were seeing some of that now as him and Pettersson are starting to gel

And Sherwood just might be the other if he keeps this up....what an incredible start

 

[F A N]

That last page was tough to read.

Might want to wait more than 10-15 games before wanting to dump on a player adapting to a new team system and C's.

Wildly inconsistent but when he's cranked up he's really good and for 5.5 with the style that he plays it was an excellent target and addition. The term is the only concern

Last year we were 2 good wingers that had some power to their games away from having a contender type forward group. Debrusk is 1 more piece of the puzzle.

He's not super skilled on puck and he doesn't process quick enough when he's not completely engaged which leads to him looking more like a 4th liner than a top6 during those times and frustrating but it's also fair to give him some time to gel with teammates so he has less thinking to do. Has an excellent shot and nose for the net and were seeing some of that now as him and Pettersson are starting to gel

And Sherwood just might be the other if he keeps this up....what an incredible start

Yep. Give him some time to adjust and find his game under Tocchet. Realistically he's not a playdriving 1st line winger and he isn't paid like one. What he is is a streaky goal scorer who is good defensively. He can also play on your specials teams and play with some physicality.