Prospect Info: Jake DeBrusk

[reffree]

Nope, the buzz kill refers to what another poster (RussellManiaKW) mentioned. Not comparing prospects. Senyshyn did not get that far in the playoffs as his team isn't up to that standard yet. My point is if someone will use stats to make a comparison one must realize that there are different stats that you can look to and that stats aren't the only thing to judge a player on.
Don't think that kind of centerman (Barzal) would benefit the Bruins when it counts the most which is playoff hockey and a potential trip to the Finals against a Western Conf. team for the reasons I mentioned in my post.

Cheers

I understand, but Barzal was far and away the best offensive weapon on his team 1,44 pts per game with only 1 teamate at a pts per game (Bear), while Senyshyn was far and away the best offensive weapon on his team in the playoff, but on a lesser team. (kidding, he was tied for 4th on his team with 0,75 ppg).

Looking at the playoff, I also do value power play production, it seems to make the difference in alot of series.

I can get behind things like "I don't think x or y player will translate well to the NHL and I think our guys will. I don't necesserly agree, but nobody knows for sure and that include me. Barzal and Connor achievement this year aren't a guarrante they will be good Nhl player, totally agree, but what they achieve this year is far far far superior to what our guys did. So saying that, it's hard to minimize what those guys have done without doing the same for our guys, since they did less in the same playing field.

 

[Burt Reynolds]

I understand, but Barzal was far and away the best offensive weapon on his team 1,44 pts per game with only 1 teamate at a pts per game (Bear), while Senyshyn was far and away the best offensive weapon on his team in the playoff, but on a lesser team. (kidding, he was tied for 4th on his team with 0,75 ppg).

Looking at the playoff, I also do value power play production, it seems to make the difference in alot of series.

I can get behind things like "I don't think x or y player will translate well to the NHL and I think our guys will. I don't necesserly agree, but nobody knows for sure and that include me. Barzal and Connor achievement this year aren't a guarrante they will be good Nhl player, totally agree, but what they achieve this year is far far far superior to what our guys did. So saying that, it's hard to minimize what those guys have done without doing the same for our guys, since they did less in the same playing field.

You've got to take into context the team around Barzal vs Senyshyn. The Knights are stacked so I would absolutely expect him to put up the points he did. When you look at what ZS did this year, it is no small task. He went from being a 4th liner last season to a 1st liner this year and nearly doubled his goal total, and increasing his point total almost 50%. All while not being on a great SOO team. Seems like youre dismissing anything good that Senyshyn could do.

 

[BBB24]

You make good points, many I agree with. But the bold is a buzz killer about Barzal? 7pts in 5 games against the best team in his league? If I show Senyshyn stat in the playoff series against his league's best team, is this a mega giga buzz killer or Barzal as higher standard to respect?

Debrusk had 3 goals 2 assist in five games against the same team and was -1, just saying.

 

[reffree]

You've got to take into context the team around Barzal vs Senyshyn. The Knights are stacked so I would absolutely expect him to put up the points he did. When you look at what ZS did this year, it is no small task. He went from being a 4th liner last season to a 1st liner this year and nearly doubled his goal total, and increasing his point total almost 50%. All while not being on a great SOO team. Seems like youre dismissing anything good that Senyshyn could do.

Knights are a stack, so are the Weathe Kings. Barzal had 7 time more points in the same amount of game and he's downgrade for that, just saying we should not play this game cause it doesn't look good on Senyshyn.

I'm not dissmissing anything good Senyshyn did, other did better that's all. Like I said, I can buy the argument about our guys developping into solid players, maybe better than others, but don't buy the blind comments about our guys being better "right now". Someday maybe (and I really wish), but right now? no.

 

[BBB24]

Knights are a stack, so are the Weathe Kings. Barzal had 7 time more points in the same amount of game and he's downgrade for that, just saying we should not play this game cause it doesn't look good on Senyshyn.

I'm not dissmissing anything good Senyshyn did, other did better that's all. Like I said, I can buy the argument about our guys developping into solid players, maybe better than others, but don't buy the blind comments about our guys being better "right now". Someday maybe (and I really wish), but right now? no.

Seattle had a much easier road in the pkayoffs than did the Soo. The Wheat Kings have a very good team but I don't believe they or anyone else in the CHL can match the Knights. On the Soo I am assuming that ZS was the focus of every opponent, and when Seattle met the Wheat Kings they were rolled and Brazel was only effective on the PP, no goals and seven assists, I believe he was -3 in two separate games. People can say what they like and have their own beliefs on players, but to me Brazal is a smallish perimeter playing play making centre, same mold as Spooner. I never seen ZS play except highlights and a couple of games on TV. but to see him put up 46 goals tells me he is well on his way to being the player the Bruins project him to be.

 

[DominicT]

Knights are a stack, so are the Weathe Kings. Barzal had 7 time more points in the same amount of game and he's downgrade for that, just saying we should not play this game cause it doesn't look good on Senyshyn.

I would love for you to make this happen. Why? Because if you could it would be magic!!!

FYI: The Soo Greyhounds (and by extension Zachary Senyshyn) never played the Knights in the playoffs.

In the regular season, London swept the series four games to zero and outscoring the Greyhounds 21-7 in those four games. Senyshyn led the Greyhounds in scoring in those four games with 2 goals and 1 assist.

 

[Colt.45Orr]

Seattle had a much easier road in the pkayoffs than did the Soo. The Wheat Kings have a very good team but I don't believe they or anyone else in the CHL can match the Knights. On the Soo I am assuming that ZS was the focus of every opponent, and when Seattle met the Wheat Kings they were rolled and Brazel was only effective on the PP, no goals and seven assists, I believe he was -3 in two separate games. People can say what they like and have their own beliefs on players, but to me Brazal is a smallish perimeter playing play making centre, same mold as Spooner. I never seen ZS play except highlights and a couple of games on TV. but to see him put up 46 goals tells me he is well on his way to being the player the Bruins project him to be.

You are obviously an expert on Barzal.

Or, wait.... is it "Brazal"? Or maybe "Brazel"? Whatever it is, you obviously have the book on him and are not just stat watching.

 

[BBB24]

You are obviously an expert on Barzal.

Or, wait.... is it "Brazal"? Or maybe "Brazel"? Whatever it is, you obviously have the book on him and are not just stat watching.

Lol, spelling police on HF, good job. I obviously have a different opinion than yours, should I apologize, you always like to come off as the Dub expert.

 

[ddpk]

I understand, but Barzal was far and away the best offensive weapon on his team 1,44 pts per game with only 1 teamate at a pts per game (Bear), while Senyshyn was far and away the best offensive weapon on his team in the playoff, but on a lesser team. (kidding, he was tied for 4th on his team with 0,75 ppg).

Looking at the playoff, I also do value power play production, it seems to make the difference in alot of series.

I can get behind things like "I don't think x or y player will translate well to the NHL and I think our guys will. I don't necesserly agree, but nobody knows for sure and that include me. Barzal and Connor achievement this year aren't a guarrante they will be good Nhl player, totally agree, but what they achieve this year is far far far superior to what our guys did. So saying that, it's hard to minimize what those guys have done without doing the same for our guys, since they did less in the same playing field.

I get what you are saying but the purpose of my post wasn't to compare ZS to anyone. It seems Barzal and Connor get all this love and are seen as vastly superior. My post was to try and dispel that myth as I don't believe that to be true at this time while giving some insight into the prospects the Bruins DID SELECT. I also don't think they did less in the same playing field. I don't use Pts/Game as a criteria when scouting (I have my reasons) but it seems you do. If so, you would notice that Jake Debrusk obliterated Barzal in points and Goals (42 to 12) the previous year playing for a mediocre Swift Current Broncos team.

In addition to this, the NHL is a tough league and a man's game. The playoffs are a gauntlet of carnage and grit. Less time, space, and more difficult to score. The ability to SCORE goals and finding/drafting prospects that can do that is at a premium. I believe that's what the Bruins selected with JD and ZS who can do that in a multitude of ways. One is more complete and can distribute too while having silky smooth hands and finish and combining that with the work ethic of a plumber; the other one is 6'2 195 thick legs (frame to put on more muscle mass too) who was the fastest skater in the OHL and can really shoot the puck and create his own scoring opportunities which he ends up finishing with accuracy and skill.

As I said, time will tell. Enjoy the ride

 

[reffree]

I would love for you to make this happen. Why? Because if you could it would be magic!!!

FYI: The Soo Greyhounds (and by extension Zachary Senyshyn) never played the Knights in the playoffs.

In the regular season, London swept the series four games to zero and outscoring the Greyhounds 21-7 in those four games. Senyshyn led the Greyhounds in scoring in those four games with 2 goals and 1 assist.

Seriously? You're better than this and know exactly what I wanted to say.

They lose to Erie (wich was a top team even if said London swept them).

Sorry if it was one of the top team and not THE top team ...

Was talking about a lesser junior team going on against a way tougher opponent.

 

[reffree]

I get what you are saying but the purpose of my post wasn't to compare ZS to anyone. It seems Barzal and Connor get all this love and are seen as vastly superior. My post was to try and dispel that myth as I don't believe that to be true at this time while giving some insight into the prospects the Bruins DID SELECT. I also don't think they did less in the same playing field. I don't use Pts/Game as a criteria when scouting (I have my reasons) but it seems you do. If so, you would notice that Jake Debrusk obliterated Barzal in points and Goals (42 to 12) the previous year playing for a mediocre Swift Current Broncos team.

In addition to this, the NHL is a tough league and a man's game. The playoffs are a gauntlet of carnage and grit. Less time, space, and more difficult to score. The ability to SCORE goals and finding/drafting prospects that can do that is at a premium. I believe that's what the Bruins selected with JD and ZS who can do that in a multitude of ways. One is more complete and can distribute too while having silky smooth hands and finish and combining that with the work ethic of a plumber; the other one is 6'2 195 thick legs (frame to put on more muscle mass too) who was the fastest skater in the OHL and can really shoot the puck and create his own scoring opportunities which he ends up finishing with accuracy and skill.

As I said, time will tell. Enjoy the ride

I agree, I hope us fans will all enjoy it.
For now, enjoy the Memorial Cup, Go Rouyn Go !!!
And Debrusk too

 

[DominicT]

Seriously? You're better than this and know exactly what I wanted to say.

They lose to Erie (wich was a top team even if said London swept them).

Sorry if it was one of the top team and not THE top team ...

Was talking about a lesser junior team going on against a way tougher opponent.

You are obviously a stat watcher and don't get to games. I can certainly tell that. If Colt can call one of you out for being a stat watcher, he should do it to both of you.

Anyway, would you agree Dylan Strome >>> than Senyshyn/Barzal?

Strome, when it counted the most against London, 4 games, 0 goals, 3 assists. 2 of those came in game 1.

Yeah, it's not always about the points. Ask the Soo's Bobby McIntyre how it impacted him against Erie having Senyshyn on his right many of nights against Erie. Sometimes there is so much focus on one player on the ice, it opens up space and opportunity for others to succeed. This is the case in point.

 

[Montecristo]

You are obviously an expert on Barzal.

Or, wait.... is it "Brazal"? Or maybe "Brazel"? Whatever it is, you obviously have the book on him and are not just stat watching.

What's wrong with stat watching? So I can't go to the games and they aren't on tv..what should i do? Not look at box scores? I assume if they get a hat trick it will have been a pretty good game by them, no? And if they are held pointless then I go "oh well, no points today." And wait until tomorrow. If I say "oh well no points today" a lot, it's a problem. Because production matters. It matters a lot. If you can't produce, at an elite level in junior, while being heralded as an elite talent (which you are as a top 15 pick) it's a problem. I don't care if they specialize in one area and they are great at other intricate parts of the game. The intricate defensive Corsi garbage is NHL stuff. In junior, score goals, get assists. If you can't do that, I don't care about the effort, and the defensive zone starts, and the burden of playing an important role on the team that wasn't "go score goals." I don't care how important that role is. Sean coutourier (ahhh spelling mistake probably) is one of the top defensive centers in the league, but he wasn't forced to be the shutdown guy in the Q. His coach said "you know what sean, you're a great defensive center, we could really use you to shutdown opposing top lines so don't worry about offense." Oh wait no he didn't, he said "sean you're our best player, I don't care that you're the best defensive player too, you go score goals, I'll find some other idiot to play that defensive role." Because elite players in junior aren't role players. They are superstars. So stats matter. And it's not the whole picture, I get that. But for a first round pick in junior hockey, it's a big piece of the picture. I'd wager stats are probably the most important thing. Maybe more specifically, statistical growth. I don't want to see a player get worse when they get older playing in the same league where everyone gets younger. its a red flag. Maybe one day we can pull the red flag down and it was a false alarm. But until im proven wrong, lower production from draft year to post draft year playing in the chl= red flag.
You know who else had a worse statiscial post draft year? A player who had it excused away by posters saying he fought injuries and took on a more responsible 200 foot role so it was an expected dip? ECHL players.

 

[BBB24]

You are obviously a stat watcher and don't get to games. I can certainly tell that. If Colt can call one of you out for being a stat watcher, he should do it to both of you.

Anyway, would you agree Dylan Strome >>> than Senyshyn/Barzal?

Strome, when it counted the most against London, 4 games, 0 goals, 3 assists. 2 of those came in game 1.

Yeah, it's not always about the points. Ask the Soo's Bobby McIntyre how it impacted him against Erie having Senyshyn on his right many of nights against Erie. Sometimes there is so much focus on one player on the ice, it opens up space and opportunity for others to succeed. This is the case in point.

For sure on the focus factor. When your team is not deep in talent it is much easier to shut down the top guy. But take London for example, very deep team up front and the blue line, that is why they are tough to beat. I fully expect London to win the Memorial Cup, although in these tournaments anything can happen. For as good a team as Brandon is, I do not think they can roll with London, remains to be seen but they are not as deep, especially with fire power the Knights have. Of course I would rather a WHL team win, mainly an Alberta team but just don't think it is in the cards, but will hope anyways.

 

[ODAAT]

What's wrong with stat watching? So I can't go to the games and they aren't on tv..what should i do? Not look at box scores? I assume if they get a hat trick it will have been a pretty good game by them, no? And if they are held pointless then I go "oh well, no points today." And wait until tomorrow. If I say "oh well no points today" a lot, it's a problem. Because production matters. It matters a lot. If you can't produce, at an elite level in junior, while being heralded as an elite talent (which you are as a top 15 pick) it's a problem. I don't care if they specialize in one area and they are great at other intricate parts of the game. The intricate defensive Corsi garbage is NHL stuff. In junior, score goals, get assists. If you can't do that, I don't care about the effort, and the defensive zone starts, and the burden of playing an important role on the team that wasn't "go score goals." I don't care how important that role is. Sean coutourier (ahhh spelling mistake probably) is one of the top defensive centers in the league, but he wasn't forced to be the shutdown guy in the Q. His coach said "you know what sean, you're a great defensive center, we could really use you to shutdown opposing top lines so don't worry about offense." Oh wait no he didn't, he said "sean you're our best player, I don't care that you're the best defensive player too, you go score goals, I'll find some other idiot to play that defensive role." Because elite players in junior aren't role players. They are superstars. So stats matter. And it's not the whole picture, I get that. But for a first round pick in junior hockey, it's a big piece of the picture. I'd wager stats are probably the most important thing. Maybe more specifically, statistical growth. I don't want to see a player get worse when they get older playing in the same league where everyone gets younger. its a red flag. Maybe one day we can pull the red flag down and it was a false alarm. But until im proven wrong, lower production from draft year to post draft year playing in the chl= red flag.
You know who else had a worse statiscial post draft year? A player who had it excused away by posters saying he fought injuries and took on a more responsible 200 foot role so it was an expected dip? ECHL players.

other than me disagreeing with about 99.9% of your argument for stat watching, your lack of beginning a new paragraph has my eyes doing tricks on me

 

[Gator Mike]

It's interesting to view this conversation in light of the fact that the favorite to be selected 3rd overall in the NBA draft is a skinny 7-foot-1 kid who averaged two points per game in the Israeli League.

A lot of teams tend to pick players based on what they think a kid is going to be five years down the road.

 

[Eddie Munson]

What's wrong with stat watching? So I can't go to the games and they aren't on tv..what should i do? Not look at box scores? I assume if they get a hat trick it will have been a pretty good game by them, no? And if they are held pointless then I go "oh well, no points today." And wait until tomorrow. If I say "oh well no points today" a lot, it's a problem. Because production matters. It matters a lot. If you can't produce, at an elite level in junior, while being heralded as an elite talent (which you are as a top 15 pick) it's a problem. I don't care if they specialize in one area and they are great at other intricate parts of the game. The intricate defensive Corsi garbage is NHL stuff. In junior, score goals, get assists. If you can't do that, I don't care about the effort, and the defensive zone starts, and the burden of playing an important role on the team that wasn't "go score goals." I don't care how important that role is. Sean coutourier (ahhh spelling mistake probably) is one of the top defensive centers in the league, but he wasn't forced to be the shutdown guy in the Q. His coach said "you know what sean, you're a great defensive center, we could really use you to shutdown opposing top lines so don't worry about offense." Oh wait no he didn't, he said "sean you're our best player, I don't care that you're the best defensive player too, you go score goals, I'll find some other idiot to play that defensive role." Because elite players in junior aren't role players. They are superstars. So stats matter. And it's not the whole picture, I get that. But for a first round pick in junior hockey, it's a big piece of the picture. I'd wager stats are probably the most important thing. Maybe more specifically, statistical growth. I don't want to see a player get worse when they get older playing in the same league where everyone gets younger. its a red flag. Maybe one day we can pull the red flag down and it was a false alarm. But until im proven wrong, lower production from draft year to post draft year playing in the chl= red flag.
You know who else had a worse statiscial post draft year? A player who had it excused away by posters saying he fought injuries and took on a more responsible 200 foot role so it was an expected dip? ECHL players.

Stats without context are the most dangerous thing on these boards.

As for your final point about who I assume is DeBrusk, wouldn't you agree that even the best players would have a tough year starting off with a significant injury, then getting traded, then being used as the go to vet up and down the lineup on the new team? It's not an excuse it's just stats put into perspective. He's also put all that adversity behind him like a professional and has really excelled these playoffs. The same can be said for Zboril.

As for what to do because you can't go or watch many of the games on TV, do what the rest of us do: read, watch highlights, watch scouting videos, ask someone who goes. Dom and I have a good discussion on OHL sleepers to keep an eye out for each year and the name Senyshyn was dropped by Dom long before Sweeney said it. There are several great posters that go to a ton of OHL, QMJHL, WHL, AHL games who are fantastic and if asked will give you a no BS assessment of any player they've seen.

There are plenty of ways to form an opinion on here not based solely on stats. This place can be a great resource but unfortunately too much useful information gets lost in all the noise of stat watchers (not pointing you out as I'm just as guilty of it at times as others).

 

[ODAAT]

It's interesting to view this conversation in light of the fact that the favorite to be selected 3rd overall in the NBA draft is a skinny 7-foot-1 kid who averaged two points per game in the Israeli League.

A lot of teams tend to pick players based on what they think a kid is going to be five years down the road.

yep, it`s the small minority of draft picks who the scouts/experts have a pretty solid read on what they`ll be and quickly (you know, the "can`t miss" kind of players), even then, seen a few in my years who have been outta the game in only a few years but the overwhelming majority of kids picked, are chosen by teams for, as you stated, what scouts believe they "could" be with some development down the road

Biggest issue now is fans/media/some teams think if a kid isn`t playing meaningful minutes at the NHL level in short order, they don`t have a chance. EVERY organization can be guilty of giving up on a kid too soon. I`m sure there are many prospects out there where it`s obvious relatively soon that while they may be ok at the AHL level, chances of them having an NHL career are minimal

Total crapshoot, inexact science

 

[Montecristo]

Stats without context are the most dangerous thing on these boards.

As for your final point about who I assume is DeBrusk, wouldn't you agree that even the best players would have a tough year starting off with a significant injury, then getting traded, then being used as the go to vet up and down the lineup on the new team? It's not an excuse it's just stats put into perspective. He's also put all that adversity behind him like a professional and has really excelled these playoffs. The same can be said for Zboril.

As for what to do because you can't go or watch many of the games on TV, do what the rest of us do: read, watch highlights, watch scouting videos, ask someone who goes. Dom and I have a good discussion on OHL sleepers to keep an eye out for each year and the name Senyshyn was dropped by Dom long before Sweeney said it. There are several great posters that go to a ton of OHL, QMJHL, WHL, AHL games who are fantastic and if asked will give you a no BS assessment of any player they've seen.

There are plenty of ways to form an opinion on here not based solely on stats. This place can be a great resource but unfortunately too much useful information gets lost in all the noise of stat watchers (not pointing you out as I'm just as guilty of it at times as others).

Highlight videos are way more dangerous than reading boxscores. No player in history looks bad in a highlight video. I do read up on the prospects at a lot of different sites. I read pros, cons, playing styles. I read all of that. Scouting videos I watch.

Debrusk does have a great excuse for a statistical drop off with his injury. Fantastic excuse. But why can't I say his season was disapointing. He regressed statisically. Him getting hurt made his season a disappointment.

I use many methods to make my assessments outside of the boxscore. Debrusk got hurt, came back, wasn't as good statisically as the year before when he was younger, and was tasked by the coach to shut down opposing top lines. That's exactly what Jared knight did his post draft year. So even though I'll be told they are completely different players with completely different skill sets in completely different leagues. Both of their post draft years were eerily similar. And we all know how Jared knight eventually turned out.

So, more than just stats. Trend recognition. And his season matched a season from a bust. I say that warrants a red flag. I won't call him a bust yet, but the needle moved for me after this season towards the bust section. It's not there yet, but it's closer than it was going into the season.

 

[Eddie Munson]

Highlight videos are way more dangerous than reading boxscores. No player in history looks bad in a highlight video. I do read up on the prospects at a lot of different sites. I read pros, cons, playing styles. I read all of that. Scouting videos I watch.

Debrusk does have a great excuse for a statistical drop off with his injury. Fantastic excuse. But why can't I say his season was disapointing. He regressed statisically. Him getting hurt made his season a disappointment.

I use many methods to make my assessments outside of the boxscore. Debrusk got hurt, came back, wasn't as good statisically as the year before when he was younger, and was tasked by the coach to shut down opposing top lines. That's exactly what Jared knight did his post draft year. So even though I'll be told they are completely different players with completely different skill sets in completely different leagues. Both of their post draft years were eerily similar. And we all know how Jared knight eventually turned out.

So, more than just stats. Trend recognition. And his season matched a season from a bust. I say that warrants a red flag. I won't call him a bust yet, but the needle moved for me after this season towards the bust section. It's not there yet, but it's closer than it was going into the season.

Highlight as in game highlights and not a hero highlight video. If you can't watch a whole game highlights at least give you a window into the game. I'm also not saying base your entire opinion off highlights but more so the body of everything IE the nuggets Dom or others feed ya, articles and prospect reviews, scouting reports and videos and actual games and highlights. It's not the in depth look guys like Dom and Kirk get but often it allows you to form a better opinion than stats.

It's also one thing to say it's dissappointing DeBrusk had a season marred with injuries and trades that hampered his productivity. It's another to say he had a dissappointing season.

I'll say this though. Your red flag on him should at least be lowered to half mast as he's turned it on when it counts and been one of the Rebel's best players this post season.

 

[Mount Kramer Cameras]

http://bruins.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=883310

“I want to be a hard player to play against. I was always told, ‘When you’re not putting the puck in the net, you can’t get scored on.’ If I can shutdown the other team’s best player, and maybe the puck doesn’t go in for me, it’s still a job well done.”

Also, it's just dawned on me that he's the spitting image of Samsonov. Weird!

 

[LouJersey]

Here's a thought. We all have who we "would have picked" instead. How about we be Bruins fans and actually encourage/hope for the best with the players we took. None of these guys have accomplished anything in the pros yet. There will be plenty of time later to puff your chest or hide in a corner.

 

[DKH]

Here's a thought. We all have who we "would have picked" instead. How about we be Bruins fans and actually encourage/hope for the best with the players we took. None of these guys have accomplished anything in the pros yet. There will be plenty of time later to puff your chest or hide in a corner.

Lou what is the life expectancy and man to woman ratio on the planet you live

 

[Colt.45Orr]

Lol, spelling police on HF, good job. I obviously have a different opinion than yours, should I apologize, you always like to come off as the Dub expert.

I'm far from a Dub "expert" (moved away from my Dub-hub years ago) which is why it is rare for me to comment on WHL players these days. I don't ever correct spelling but if someone were to come on here and post something negative about "Krayche" then "Krahjci" you might wonder if they had ever actually watched this Krejci fellow play, no?

I guess I'm being a bit of a jerk about your Barzal analysis because I think some of the stuff written about him is made up fluff to begin with and then recycled around the net (I also got to spend a little time with the 'TBirds team this year and I'm now going DKH/Knight on him). I think it is worth analyzing DeBrusk over Barzal not as a *****-and-moan exercise but because looking at the strengths and weaknesses of both players will go a long way for us in understanding the overall drafting strategy of the Bruins braintrust because he is a great kid and there is no way they would have passed on him due to personality.

 

[reffree]

You are obviously a stat watcher and don't get to games. I can certainly tell that. If Colt can call one of you out for being a stat watcher, he should do it to both of you.

Anyway, would you agree Dylan Strome >>> than Senyshyn/Barzal?

Strome, when it counted the most against London, 4 games, 0 goals, 3 assists. 2 of those came in game 1.

Yeah, it's not always about the points. Ask the Soo's Bobby McIntyre how it impacted him against Erie having Senyshyn on his right many of nights against Erie. Sometimes there is so much focus on one player on the ice, it opens up space and opportunity for others to succeed. This is the case in point.

Well, my point initialy was: we can't look at Barzal 0 goals minus player(but still 7 assists) when his team face a stronger opponent in the playoff and say he wasn't there when his team needed him the most, because how does that look on Senyshyn performance against Erie.

Also, I know Senyshyn gets more attention on the ice because he is a threat. I'm glad McIntyre was able to make profit of that added space Senyshyn presence gave him. But I'm sure you'll agree, at the end of the day I'm sure you know every good player will be key against in a playoff matchup and Senyshyn is absolutly not the only guy who saw more attention toward him in those game.

So to return to my initial point, Barzal too got key against by Brandon ... Strome too was key against by London. So going full circle now, why should this be count against Barzal but not against Senyshyn (and Strome and whoever you want to add)?