Value of: Jake Allen to EDM

[Richiebottles]

What would be a logical trade from both sides look like?

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[TFHockey]

Why would the Oilers do this? They need a 1A starter. Jake Allen isn't that.

 

[Mersss]

Why would the Oilers do this? They need a 1A starter. Jake Allen isn't that.

There isn't a lot of those on the market as we speak...

 

[Gravity]

Why would the Oilers do this? They need a 1A starter. Jake Allen isn't that.

Are there any 1A's available for trade? Maybe Grubauer?

 

[KrisLetAngry]

I mean to be fair what 1A starters are there available that Edmonton can afford.

There is Barrie but that is not what people trade for. They get there own UFA D.

So it's Barrie + a goalie.

Where's the value for the 1A starter.

Maybe you could get Price however that's if he wants to Leave Montreal and who knows.

Maybe get a goalie from Dallas? Maybe Holtby could be pried? Does Dallas do that though? Like bring back Khudobin to the NHL he looked good number wise in the AHL after the poor NHL start.

 

[Funk21]

Why would the Oilers do this? They need a 1A starter. Jake Allen isn't that.

Because Jake Allen is way better than Kosk. Ideally you go after MAF, get Chicago to eat half and ask them to take Kosk.

The issue is that one year potential run will cost you a first plus.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Montreal isn't trading Allen without knowing what Price's future is.

 

[TFHockey]

There isn't a lot of those on the market as we speak...

Very true.

 

[Mersss]

Montreal isn't trading Allen without knowing what Price's future is.

Why not?

Ride with Primeau and McNiven, aim for Wright and Bedard as we def need the help.

Problem solved

 

[Kaen]

Is Allen really enough of an upgrade to justify the return that the Habs would likely want in return? Especially since they would need to take salary back in return. The Oilers have spent the last decade+ finding bargain goalies and while it works on occasion(Talbot's good year, Smith last year), it has usually bit them in the ass. I think they need to shell out the pieces necessary to return a quality goalie, even if it ends up as an overpayment.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Why not?

Ride with Primeau and McNiven, aim for Wright and Bedard as we def need the help.

Problem solved

Teams rarely try to lose. Only when it is inevitable anyway. As much as fans might be excited to get a high pick this year, no NHL team wants to set themselves up as losers for the next 2 or 3 years.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Is Allen really enough of an upgrade to justify the return that the Habs would likely want in return? Especially since they would need to take salary back in return. The Oilers have spent the last decade+ finding bargain goalies and while it works on occasion(Talbot's good year, Smith last year), it has usually bit them in the ass. I think they need to shell out the pieces necessary to return a quality goalie, even if it ends up as an overpayment.

Allen keeps Edmonton in goalie purgatory. He is 100% the wrong solution.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Why would the Oilers do this? They need a 1A starter. Jake Allen isn't that.

MTL fan here, fully agreed, Allen is a great backup, but his performance is decreasing with the number of games he plays. The issue is that I don’t see many good 1A goalies on the market.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Korpisalo Fleury Khudobin

All guys with less term or less cap hit.

Why Allen?

 

[Anomie2029]

Because Jake Allen is way better than Kosk. Ideally you go after MAF, get Chicago to eat half and ask them to take Kosk.

The issue is that one year potential run will cost you a first plus.

So how many firsts and prospects are the Oilers adding to make that deal? No way Hawks will retain, take salary, and lose the best player without significant add from Oilers.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Jake Allen isn't the guy they need

 

[holy]

Korpisalo Fleury Khudobin

All guys with less term or less cap hit.

Why Allen?

Korpisalo I can kinda see. Fleury ain’t happening and neither is Khudobin.

 

[RC51]

how about, I want the nhl best goalie and I want him for free 100% retained. SO go ahead, NAME ONE?

 

[Funk21]

So how many firsts and prospects are the Oilers adding to make that deal? No way Hawks will retain, take salary, and lose the best player without significant add from Oilers.

Chicago needs to recoup a first for MAF as they have traded theirs away, nobody can afford him at 7 per that is a SC contender. If he had term then sure it would be a lot more but a first plus a middle round pick is what I would suspect. Goalies very rarely get you a first even one as accomplished as MAF. Plus he is certainly on the back nine of his career.

 

[ManofSteel55]

So how many firsts and prospects are the Oilers adding to make that deal? No way Hawks will retain, take salary, and lose the best player without significant add from Oilers.

Probably one first would do it. Chicago will trade him if he is okay with it, and there will be few teams out there who are able to take on MAF's cap hit. Without retention, we saw his value over the summer. With retention, to a team in need of a goalie at the deadline, a 1st is a huge win for Chicago. Koskinen and a 1st for MAF at 50% is possible because its Holland and he likes veterans. Nobody else will offer a 1st.

 

[glenbuis]

Probably one first would do it. Chicago will trade him if he is okay with it, and there will be few teams out there who are able to take on MAF's cap hit. Without retention, we saw his value over the summer. With retention, to a team in need of a goalie at the deadline, a 1st is a huge win for Chicago. Koskinen and a 1st for MAF at 50% is possible because its Holland and he likes veterans. Nobody else will offer a 1st.

seems like the worst part of it for the oilers is their increasing desperation. fleury at 50% plus taking on koskinen will be more costly than a first

 

[LMFAO]

Montreal isn't trading Allen without knowing what Price's future is.

Yes because Montreal is ready to contend at any time now.

 

[TFHockey]

seems like the worst part of it for the oilers is their increasing desperation. fleury at 50% plus taking on koskinen will be more costly than a first

Will it though? I dunno. I guess we'll see.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

MTL fan here, fully agreed, Allen is a great backup, but his performance is decreasing with the number of games he plays. The issue is that I don’t see many good 1A goalies on the market.

THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is Jake Allen

 

[Ranksu]

Edmonton Oilers fans. Think twice if you want Allen be your #1 goaltender.

Soft kitten will meltdown under pressure. In Blues we saw it.

Good luck.