Confirmed with Link: Jake Allen (50% retained) traded to the Devils for cond. 2025 3rd (2025 2nd if Allen plays in 40+ games and team qualifies for playoffs next season)

[FerrisRox]

I feel Markstrom isn't that much of an upgrade over Allen and at age 34 he could easily falter so I see this as a positive.

Markstrom is unquestionably a large upgrade from Jake Allen.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

So with the NJD acquiring Markstrom - will it make it more challenging for Allen to reach the conditions involved to become a 2nd?

*Conditions: Upgrades to 2025 2nd round pick if Allen plays in 40 or more 2024-25 games and if the club that Allen is a member of qualifies for the playoffs in 2024-25​

I think we all knew that Devils would be acquiring a starter. I feel Markstrom isn't that much of an upgrade over Allen and at age 34 he could easily falter so I see this as a positive. Here's hoping Allen steps up and outplays Markstrom next year

Allen is the worst goalie in the NHL and Markstrom is one of the better goalies when healthy

 

[red devil]

Or Allen gets traded thus that condition passes to another club and he actually plays more then 40 on a worst team then the devils hmmmmm???

The team he is on needs to make the playoffs

 

[Treb]

Markstrom is unquestionably a large upgrade from Jake Allen.

He has been relatively struggling in Calgary the last two years though. Granted it's Calgary, but I wouldn't classify NJ as a defensive juggernaut either.

Allen is the worst goalie in the NHL and Markstrom is one of the better goalies when healthy

Both these statements are pretty hyperbolic.


Disclaimer, I don't think we'll get that 2nd round pick, but I also don't think it is an outlandish possibility.

 

[CrAzYNiNe]

Entirely hypothetical: Do you trade Allen for PLD if Allen was still a Hab yesterday?

 

[Captain Mountain]

Entirely hypothetical: Do you trade Allen for PLD if Allen was still a Hab yesterday?

No.

 

[The Real Timo]

If Hughes waited he could have gotten a 1st and a prospect for Allen now with no salary retained.

 

[MXD]

Entirely hypothetical: Do you trade Allen for PLD if Allen was still a Hab yesterday?

WTF. Dubois playing at his best is BARELY a positive asset at his pricetag, and that's without the NMC, and the "playing at his best" qualifier is pretty significant. That deal also lasts forever, and Dubois may have simply played his best hockey.

 

[Miller Time]

Markstrom is unquestionably a large upgrade from Jake Allen.

It's shocking that this is not obvious to some...

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Allen is the worst goalie in the NHL and Markstrom is one of the better goalies when healthy

Ridiculous post. Markstorm has been fading and Allen is a sold backup.

It's shocking that this is not obvious to some...

He is a gamble. He has been bad in crunch time.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Ridiculous post. Markstorm has been fading and Allen is a sold backup.

Last 3 years he posted a .900, .892, .891 lmfao

He f***ing sucks

 

[Habsrule]

Only way Allen gets in 40 games is if Markstrom has a season ending injury early in the season.

We are getting a 3rd rounder for Allen. Don’t get your hopes up on a 2nd because the odds of it happening are very slim.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Last 3 years he posted a .900, .892, .891 lmfao

He f***ing sucks

Who cares? He had a mediocre defense in front of him.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Who cares? He had a mediocre defense in front of him.

Guy couldn’t stop a beach ball if the net was 2 feet wide

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Guy couldn’t stop a beach ball if the net was 2 feet wide

Well he was pretty good for NJ except for maybe one bad game.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

The fan stuff isn't cool but anyone earning USD 3.8m+ isn't a victim that deserves any protection from the environment. Pressure comes with the territory, it's part of his job to handle it.

There is a line but I agree that that is exactly what Armia did by handling the demotion in such a professional manner and choosing to address his demons with professional help instead of claiming victim status and sulking.

 

[tazsub3]

The team he is on needs to make the playoffs

You are correct , I forgot that condition

 

[Miller Time]

Ridiculous post. Markstorm has been fading and Allen is a sold backup.

Bobrovsky was fading too

Allen was better as a starter for the devil's than he was as a back up for us

He is a gamble. He has been bad in crunch time.

Sure. But that he's not a considerable upgrade on Allen is silly, they are in different leagues.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Entirely hypothetical: Do you trade Allen for PLD if Allen was still a Hab yesterday?

NO, not at full cap hit for Dubois. He's not a $8.5M player. More like around $7M. Bringing him in Montreal making more than Suzuki is not a good idea. And you all know how much I am interested in adding Dubois to our mix but I have a price point.

I actually would use Dubois as a power forward winger and center insurance if someone gets hurt. I think he is a perfect line mate for Dach and they could have shared the faceoffs.

Guy couldn’t stop a beach ball if the net was 2 feet wide

I'd be careful with jumping on Allen who was on a very bad defensive team. He's a great back-up but a fringe starter. I think he does well with the Devils in the role he should be in this coming season.

 

[FerrisRox]

He has been relatively struggling in Calgary the last two years though. Granted it's Calgary, but I wouldn't classify NJ as a defensive juggernaut either.

What does any of that have to do with Markstrom unquestionably being an upgrade on Jake Allen?

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

If Hughes waited he could have gotten a 1st and a prospect for Allen now with no salary retained.

Yeah, no!

 

[Treb]

What does any of that have to do with Markstrom unquestionably being an upgrade on Jake Allen?

He's an upgrade. How large it is was the question.

 

[FerrisRox]

He's an upgrade. How large it is was the question.

It's substantial.

 

[26Mats]

This fixation on Roy is mystifying. I hope I'm wrong but with the wave of talent coming, I can't see him and several other current fringe forwards being on this team by the 2027 season. There will be way, way too many better options: Beck, Demidov, Hage, Florian, Thorpe, Kapanen, Sawyer, Tuch, etc. And that doesn't even take into account those 3 first and 4 seconds that Hughes has already garnered over the next 2 years and the free agents that may be added as existing veterans' contracts terminate. Heck, if Allen and the Devils continue to win, that conditional 3rd round pick may well turn into the 5th second rounder.

Devils would have to win AND Allen would have to play something like 41 games. That is unlikely unless Markstrom gets injured.

 

[MangoX]

Devils would have to win AND Allen would have to play something like 41 games. That is unlikely unless Markstrom gets injured.

Devils would have to make the playoffs and Allen would have to play 40 or more games to make it a 2nd round pick.

Hage looks great! What a debut! Did he commit for 2 years at Michigan? I hope the team can sign him to a ELC before the season is over.