JAD and Vilardi sign 1 year deals

[Butch 19]

Here are your options:
Video games - masturbation - Watching TV (the "lounge line")
Needlepoint - Drawing - scrapbooking ("arts & crafts line")
Trains - robots - model bridges ("the building line")
Stamps - D&D - Puppeteering (the "virgin line")

and the coil collector shop guy is saying "hey, I'm just sitting over here!"

 

[kingsfan]

Give him a role in the top six and he could put up more than that. There are so many interesting potential lines.

Kempe - Kopitar - Kaliyev
Moore - Danault - Vilardi
Fiala - Byfield - Arvidsson
Iafallo - Lizotte - Grundstrom

I think this shows where Blake's missed the boat. This line up doesn't include Andersson, Kupari, JAD, Lemieux, Turcotte, Fagemo, Madden, etc., all of whom are in that age range to be on the roster or pushing hard for it. That's seven bodies that won't make it, and yet the only prospect he's moved out is Faber, who it seems may have pushed his way out the door.

Really, any of Vilardi, Grundstrom, Andersson, Kupari, JAD, Lemieux, Turcotte, Fagemo, Madden could make or not make that roster, and that list includes three guys taken in the first round, three more taken by (or acquired with) second round picks, and a few more probably worth 3rd rounders in trades. I understand you can't move them all and you need some to be kept for depth/competition/hoping to develop, but surely three or four of those nine names could have been packaged to bolster this line up. Instead, how many are going to be worth potentially a lot less after they don't make the team out of camp again this year?

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

Vilardi has to really show something in Camp. The Kings have a lot of forwards and defense someone will be traded I believe

 

[Schmooley]

Vilardi has to really show something in Camp. The Kings have a lot of forwards and defense someone will be traded I believe

Him and Lias were maybe the Kings best player last years camp and it only bought Vilardi a couple weeks of leash on the roster. He needs to bring it every night during the season.
They want a lot of competition in camp but it doesnt mean much as the veterans have their spots locked up. We saw it last year as most vets were pacing themselves in camp and according to many posters here camp doesnt matter.

 

[Statto]

I think this shows where Blake's missed the boat. This line up doesn't include Andersson, Kupari, JAD, Lemieux, Turcotte, Fagemo, Madden, etc., all of whom are in that age range to be on the roster or pushing hard for it. That's seven bodies that won't make it, and yet the only prospect he's moved out is Faber, who it seems may have pushed his way out the door.

Really, any of Vilardi, Grundstrom, Andersson, Kupari, JAD, Lemieux, Turcotte, Fagemo, Madden could make or not make that roster, and that list includes three guys taken in the first round, three more taken by (or acquired with) second round picks, and a few more probably worth 3rd rounders in trades. I understand you can't move them all and you need some to be kept for depth/competition/hoping to develop, but surely three or four of those nine names could have been packaged to bolster this line up. Instead, how many are going to be worth potentially a lot less after they don't make the team out of camp again this year?

There is plenty of time for further moves.

 

[funky]

I think this shows where Blake's missed the boat. This line up doesn't include Andersson, Kupari, JAD, Lemieux, Turcotte, Fagemo, Madden, etc., all of whom are in that age range to be on the roster or pushing hard for it. That's seven bodies that won't make it, and yet the only prospect he's moved out is Faber, who it seems may have pushed his way out the door.

Really, any of Vilardi, Grundstrom, Andersson, Kupari, JAD, Lemieux, Turcotte, Fagemo, Madden could make or not make that roster, and that list includes three guys taken in the first round, three more taken by (or acquired with) second round picks, and a few more probably worth 3rd rounders in trades. I understand you can't move them all and you need some to be kept for depth/competition/hoping to develop, but surely three or four of those nine names could have been packaged to bolster this line up. Instead, how many are going to be worth potentially a lot less after they don't make the team out of camp again this year?

No disrespect because I agree with you but it was a fan like us that hypothisized this roster not Blake or TM and it’s still early summer and moves have to be made.

Maybe Blake surprises us again

 

[lumbergh]

I think this shows where Blake's missed the boat. This line up doesn't include Andersson, Kupari, JAD, Lemieux, Turcotte, Fagemo, Madden, etc., all of whom are in that age range to be on the roster or pushing hard for it. That's seven bodies that won't make it, and yet the only prospect he's moved out is Faber, who it seems may have pushed his way out the door.

Really, any of Vilardi, Grundstrom, Andersson, Kupari, JAD, Lemieux, Turcotte, Fagemo, Madden could make or not make that roster, and that list includes three guys taken in the first round, three more taken by (or acquired with) second round picks, and a few more probably worth 3rd rounders in trades. I understand you can't move them all and you need some to be kept for depth/competition/hoping to develop, but surely three or four of those nine names could have been packaged to bolster this line up. Instead, how many are going to be worth potentially a lot less after they don't make the team out of camp again this year?

Don't forget that Victor Arvidsson may not be ready for training camp or the regular season, depending on how his recovery goes. The major reason why the Kings made the playoffs last season despite the injuries is that they built a lineup deep at every position (except goalie). The Kings will be as deep this season, with players ready to fill spots if Arvidsson or anyone else sustains an injury (knock on wood).

Kings Opening Night Roster Coming Together; Updates on Durzi and Anderson Contracts

mayorsmanor.com

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Him and Lias were maybe the Kings best player last years camp and it only bought Vilardi a couple weeks of leash on the roster. He needs to bring it every night during the season.
They want a lot of competition in camp but it doesnt mean much as the veterans have their spots locked up. We saw it last year as most vets were pacing themselves in camp and according to many posters here camp doesnt matter.

"Gabe needs to bring it at camp"

*arguably best player at camp*

"Camp doesn't matter, Gabe needs to figure it out"

 

[Schmooley]

Don't forget that Victor Arvidsson may not be ready for training camp or the regular season, depending on how his recovery goes. The major reason why the Kings made the playoffs last season despite the injuries is that they built a lineup deep at every position (except goalie). The Kings will be as deep this season, with players ready to fill spots if Arvidsson or anyone else sustains an injury (knock on wood).

Kings Opening Night Roster Coming Together; Updates on Durzi and Anderson Contracts

mayorsmanor.com

The Kings are not the most talented team on paper but they might be the deepest team in the league. They have 6 spare forwards and 3 spare dmen that are all solid up and coming players ready to plug into the lineup. Cant think of a team with as much talent on the fringe of their NHL roster.

 

[Fishhead]

"Gabe needs to bring it at camp"

*arguably best player at camp*

"Camp doesn't matter, Gabe needs to figure it out"

I'm on the Gabe bandwagon, but he was dreadful at the start of the season. I actually think it had more to do with the terrible losing streak, if the team was winning games they probably stick with that line a bit longer. Worst line on a bad team, waiver exempt, etc.

If he makes the roster out of camp this year I think he sticks for the entire season.

 

[cyclones22]

Well Gabe has to stick for the entire season because if he gets waived there's a 100% chance he will get claimed. He was sent down to Ontario to play wing and killed it in the AHL. I just don't believe TMc likes his game at all and Blake needs to recoup some value before Gabe gets Hickey'd.

 

[mysterman2]

No, they're both RFAs who can elect for arbitration though.

Hopefully that can be avoided.

gracias

 

[kilowatt]

I think this shows where Blake's missed the boat. This line up doesn't include Andersson, Kupari, JAD, Lemieux, Turcotte, Fagemo, Madden, etc., all of whom are in that age range to be on the roster or pushing hard for it. That's seven bodies that won't make it, and yet the only prospect he's moved out is Faber, who it seems may have pushed his way out the door.

Really, any of Vilardi, Grundstrom, Andersson, Kupari, JAD, Lemieux, Turcotte, Fagemo, Madden could make or not make that roster, and that list includes three guys taken in the first round, three more taken by (or acquired with) second round picks, and a few more probably worth 3rd rounders in trades. I understand you can't move them all and you need some to be kept for depth/competition/hoping to develop, but surely three or four of those nine names could have been packaged to bolster this line up. Instead, how many are going to be worth potentially a lot less after they don't make the team out of camp again this year?

I think it also begs the question, can we package any of these players and prospects to get a better player at a better cap hit? I've said for a while now that we should try to pick up JT Miller, although as a one-year rental I'm less enticed (post-Fiala signing). Another guy that wouldn't be terrible to pick up would be Toffoli. Hell, maybe we could even get Markstrom (with Dustin Wolf on the way).

To Los Angeles: Tyler Toffoli (50% retained), Jacob Markstrom (25% retained)
To Calgary: Alex Iafallo, Cal Petersen, Gabriel Vilardi, Alex Turcotte, Tyler Madden, Helge Grans, 1st 2023

To Los Angeles: Jacob Chychrun (50% retained)
To Arizona: Sean Walker, Sean Durzi, Rasmus Kupari, Akil Thomas, 1st 2024

Kempe - Kopitar - Toffoli (2 years at $2.125 million)
Fiala - Byfield - Arvidsson
Moore - Danault - Kaliyev
Lemiex - Lizotte - Grundstrom
Andersson, JAD

Anderson - Doughty
Chychrun (3 years at $2.3 million) - Clarke
Bjornfot - Roy
Moverare

Markstrom (4 years at $4 million)
Quick

This is probably my least realistic proposal to date Maybe remove Markstrom from the equation here.

 

[kingsfan]

No disrespect because I agree with you but it was a fan like us that hypothisized this roster not Blake or TM and it’s still early summer and moves have to be made.

Maybe Blake surprises us again

None taken.

I wasn't taken the roster as set in stone, my point was that you can interchange pieces as you wish and there will always be seven to nine players that are in that age range where they should be battling for a roster spot that won't make the pro team. Guys like Vilardi, JAD, etc are also in some cases not waiver ineligible. It seems the draft was the likely point of no return in terms of getting something of value for our depth pieces.

 

[Kingspiracy]

I think it also begs the question, can we package any of these players and prospects to get a better player at a better cap hit? I've said for a while now that we should try to pick up JT Miller, although as a one-year rental I'm less enticed (post-Fiala signing). Another guy that wouldn't be terrible to pick up would be Toffoli. Hell, maybe we could even get Markstrom (with Dustin Wolf on the way).

To Los Angeles: Tyler Toffoli (50% retained), Jacob Markstrom (25% retained)
To Calgary: Alex Iafallo, Cal Petersen, Gabriel Vilardi, Alex Turcotte, Tyler Madden, Helge Grans, 1st 2023

To Los Angeles: Jacob Chychrun (50% retained)
To Arizona: Sean Walker, Sean Durzi, Rasmus Kupari, Akil Thomas, 1st 2024

Kempe - Kopitar - Toffoli (2 years at $2.125 million)
Fiala - Byfield - Arvidsson
Moore - Danault - Kaliyev
Lemiex - Lizotte - Grundstrom
Andersson, JAD

Anderson - Doughty
Chychrun (3 years at $2.3 million) - Clarke
Bjornfot - Roy
Moverare

Markstrom (4 years at $4 million)
Quick

This is probably my least realistic proposal to date Maybe remove Markstrom from the equation here.

Man i really dislike the first trade, seems like an overpay for a whole lot of meh.

The second i could live with, but would rather just stick and see if bearboy finds some offense.

Id rather just add a big unit like Soucy for a couple of picks or prospects.

 

[Fishhead]

I can tell you this, if Turcotte is traded it isn't going to be for guys in their 30's. And that first trade. anyway.... Markstrom's numbers aren't that much better than Petersen's, outside of last season.

 

[Sparky206]

I think it also begs the question, can we package any of these players and prospects to get a better player at a better cap hit? I've said for a while now that we should try to pick up JT Miller, although as a one-year rental I'm less enticed (post-Fiala signing). Another guy that wouldn't be terrible to pick up would be Toffoli. Hell, maybe we could even get Markstrom (with Dustin Wolf on the way).

To Los Angeles: Tyler Toffoli (50% retained), Jacob Markstrom (25% retained)
To Calgary: Alex Iafallo, Cal Petersen, Gabriel Vilardi, Alex Turcotte, Tyler Madden, Helge Grans, 1st 2023

To Los Angeles: Jacob Chychrun (50% retained)
To Arizona: Sean Walker, Sean Durzi, Rasmus Kupari, Akil Thomas, 1st 2024

Kempe - Kopitar - Toffoli (2 years at $2.125 million)
Fiala - Byfield - Arvidsson
Moore - Danault - Kaliyev
Lemiex - Lizotte - Grundstrom
Andersson, JAD

Anderson - Doughty
Chychrun (3 years at $2.3 million) - Clarke
Bjornfot - Roy
Moverare

Markstrom (4 years at $4 million)
Quick

This is probably my least realistic proposal to date Maybe remove Markstrom from the equation here.

So we just sucked for 5 years to sell it all to bring back Toffoli, a goalie who was worse against EDM than Quick was and a LHD who cant stay healthy?

 

[kilowatt]

Here are your options:
Video games - masturbation - Watching TV (the "lounge line")
Needlepoint - Drawing - scrapbooking ("arts & crafts line")
Trains - robots - model bridges ("the building line")
Stamps - D&D - Puppeteering (the "virgin line")

hellfire club rise up

 

[Ghetty Green]

Give him a role in the top six and he could put up more than that. There are so many interesting potential lines.

Kempe - Kopitar - Kaliyev
Moore - Danault - Vilardi
Fiala - Byfield - Arvidsson
Iafallo - Lizotte - Grundstrom

Great lines bro

 

[kilowatt]

So we just sucked for 5 years to sell it all to bring back Toffoli, a goalie who was worse against EDM than Quick was and a LHD who cant stay healthy?

I think what’s not being counted here is that these guys are on contracts that can fit in under the cap. It’s not insignificant to have more than one guy at half cap. Does anyone believe that Vilardi will contribute more than Toffoli would over the next two years? And if he doesn’t, will Vilardi even be here in two years? Same mostly goes for every prospect on this list. As much as I want them to succeed, I don’t see them taking a spot from Fiala, Kopitar, Kempe, Danault, or Arvidsson any time soon. Maybe Iafallo or Moore?

As for the goalie situation, I’d rather have Markstrom at 4x4 than Petersen at 3x5.

Even if the Kings traded Vilardi, Turcotte, Madden, Grans, Durzi, Kupari, and Thomas (as I did in my nutty proposal), that still leaves Byfield, Kaliyev, and Clarke in the lineup, Anderson, Durzi and Grundstrom contributing, and Anderson-Dolan, Pinelli, Helenius, Hughes, Fagemo, Chromiak, Laferriere, Simontaival, Jamsen, Spence, Nousiainen, and Kirsanov in the cupboard. That’s still a great prospect pool.

 

[Kurrilino]

I think what’s not being counted here is that these guys are on contracts that can fit in under the cap. It’s not insignificant to have more than one guy at half cap. Does anyone believe that Vilardi will contribute more than Toffoli would over the next two years? And if he doesn’t, will Vilardi even be here in two years? Same mostly goes for every prospect on this list. As much as I want them to succeed, I don’t see them taking a spot from Fiala, Kopitar, Kempe, Danault, or Arvidsson any time soon. Maybe Iafallo or Moore?

As for the goalie situation, I’d rather have Markstrom at 4x4 than Petersen at 3x5.

Even if the Kings traded Vilardi, Turcotte, Madden, Grans, Durzi, Kupari, and Thomas (as I did in my nutty proposal), that still leaves Byfield, Kaliyev, and Clarke in the lineup, Anderson, Durzi and Grundstrom contributing, and Anderson-Dolan, Pinelli, Helenius, Hughes, Fagemo, Chromiak, Laferriere, Simontaival, Jamsen, Spence, Nousiainen, and Kirsanov in the cupboard. That’s still a great prospect pool.

I don't see the benefit here beside crippling our self

No GM in the NHL is trading guys from a 19-23 year group for people in their 30+
I thought it was pretty obvious that our core has no shot at winning the cup.
We have been humiliated by one of the weakest teams that made the playoff.

I know people will now argue we made it to 7 games, but this is just the result of an Oilers clown defense
and a funnel of a goalie.
All of us have seen what happened to the Oilers when they faced a real NHL team

This lineup as proposed will still be utterly destroyed by teams like Colorado which will reign for several years from now on.
I find it weird to give up our future just to face another humiliation again

 

[bmr]

Give him a role in the top six and he could put up more than that. There are so many interesting potential lines.

Kempe - Kopitar - Kaliyev
Moore - Danault - Vilardi
Fiala - Byfield - Arvidsson
Iafallo - Lizotte - Grundstrom

I don't think there's any way they break up Moore - Danault - Arvidsson. Those guys are extremely dialed in and work so well with each other.

Fiala on a line with Byfield? Maybe - and could be great, but I think Fiala will be on the top line with Kopitar and Kempe to start. I think Byfield with Vilardi and Iafallo would be a good line.

I like a 4th line of Lemieux, Lizotte and Grundstrom. That line would piss off a lot of other teams and could be one of the best 4th lines in the league IMHO.

 

[Herby]

I don't see the benefit here beside crippling our self

No GM in the NHL is trading guys from a 19-23 year group for people in their 30+
I thought it was pretty obvious that our core has no shot at winning the cup.
We have been humiliated by one of the weakest teams that made the playoff.

I know people will now argue we made it to 7 games, but this is just the result of an Oilers clown defense
and a funnel of a goalie.
All of us have seen what happened to the Oilers when they faced a real NHL team

This lineup as proposed will still be utterly destroyed by teams like Colorado which will reign for several years from now on.
I find it weird to give up our future just to face another humiliation again

Did you sleep through the 2nd round?

The Oilers beat the Flames, a team many had pegged as the only team that could challenge Colorado.

And the Kings were humiliated? The Kings carried the play 5 on 5 for much of that series.

You are making no sense in some of these posts Kurri.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Did you sleep through the 2nd round?

The Oilers beat the Flames, a team many had pegged as the only team that could challenge Colorado.

And the Kings were humiliated? The Kings carried the play 5 on 5 for much of that series.

You are making no sense in some of these posts Kurri.

I think his girlfriend bashed his head in too hard against the dashboard. The guy seems to steadily be on the decline with regards to his mental capacities that none of us can make any sense of what the hell he's watching on the ice.

 

[ibleedkings]

I think his girlfriend bashed his head in too hard against the dashboard. The guy seems to steadily be on the decline with regards to his mental capacities that none of us can make any sense of what the hell he's watching on the ice.

''I wouldn't trade Jack Johnson for Sidney Crosby''

-Kurrilino (Circa sometime around 2008)