Proposal: Jacob Markstrom, Noah Hanifin, Matt Coronato to New Jersey

[Peter Griffin]

The "rumour" doesnt have any sources, so it's just stuff they made up.

That website has posted made up proposals from this site in the past as speculation. It’s garbage.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Don't ever make me vet that site again. Although I can't unsee this now:

This is not "speculation" by a reputable source (nor is it a "rumor"), and I'll be removing that tag.

 

[blankall]

You aren’t going to find a Devils fan on here willing to part with Nemec. Maybe drop him and Coronato completely.

Vanecek
Foote
1st

For

Markstrom
Hanifin


or

Vanecek
Foote or 1st

For

Markstrom

Nope. Vanecek has negative value and Foote hasn't progressed at all from his draft year. The Flames have zero need for a player like Foot, and he'd be behind at least 5-6 superior forward prospects and young players the Flames already have.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

That’s brutal for Calgary without Nemec. Nemec is a great young Dman and you dropped him out and Coronato which makes the trade less valuable to Calgary. Foote is likely waiver worthy soon and he hasn’t even played this season. Vanecek is a cap dump and has no value. So your saying a late first fro Markstrom and Hanifin. Absurd.

I’m trying to figure out a trade that makes sense for both teams using the terms in the original post but it’s looking like thats just fan fiction anyway.

Nemec isn’t being traded. Thats why I dropped him and Coronato. Dropped the Hanifin part because he won’t be needed as Nemec isn’t being traded. That’s how I landed on Vanecek + 1st for Markstrom. Not sure how much value you’re expecting for Markstrom but there’s a 1st (which at this point I’m not even sure I’d do considering it could be a lottery ball).

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

I’m trying to figure out a trade that makes sense for both teams using the terms in the original post but it’s looking like thats just fan fiction anyway.

Nemec isn’t being traded. Thats why I dropped him and Coronato. Dropped the Hanifin part because he won’t be needed as Nemec isn’t being traded. That’s how I landed on Vanecek + 1st for Markstrom. Not sure how much value you’re expecting for Markstrom but there’s a 1st (which at this point I’m not even sure I’d do considering it could be a lottery ball).

Vanachek + first for Markstrom I could see.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

Nope. Vanecek has negative value and Foote hasn't progressed at all from his draft year. The Flames have zero need for a player like Foot, and he'd be behind at least 5-6 superior forward prospects and young players the Flames already have.

I’m completely fine with no variation of this trade happening.

 

[dirtydanglez]

Not with the term and avg he wanted/got

hed make more of an impact than meier

 

[Forge]

Well that’s the point of a trade. Would I do Mercer for Coronato straight up. Sure I could see that.

But where is the part where the Flames are trading a defencemen that is probably top 10 in the league in terms of value when you take out contract status? As well as a high end goalie at a time when there are few goalies playing well? As well as taking Vanacek as a dump. Mercer instead of Nemec is hilariously bad.

I don't care about any of that.

You said Mercer wasn't better than Coronato which is what I'm commenting on. If you mispoke and meant Mercer wasn't more valuable than Coronato, I don't have too much of an issue with that (and if Mercer is more valuable, he's probably not valuable enough / good enough as a player to want to give up a prospect of Coronato's caliber)

But again, your comment was point blank that Mercer wasn't better than him which is all I was commenting on. Ultimately, that may be true, but right now that's more wishcasting than anything.

 

[MakeCgyGreatAgain]

I’m trying to figure out a trade that makes sense for both teams using the terms in the original post but it’s looking like thats just fan fiction anyway.

Nemec isn’t being traded. Thats why I dropped him and Coronato. Dropped the Hanifin part because he won’t be needed as Nemec isn’t being traded. That’s how I landed on Vanecek + 1st for Markstrom. Not sure how much value you’re expecting for Markstrom but there’s a 1st (which at this point I’m not even sure I’d do considering it could be a lottery ball).

Check your own post you didn’t drop out Hanifin in the first proposal. Foote isn’t even playing hockey right now and hasn’t all season So if you consider he has the value of a first you need to stop making proposals.

 

[Forge]

hed make more of an impact than meier

In fairness, Fabian Zetterlund would make more of an impact than Timo right now.

Season from hell for Timo so far with the injuries and lack of performance

 

[Jerzey Devil]

Check your own post you didn’t drop out Hanifin in the first proposal. Foote isn’t even playing hockey right now and hasn’t all season So if you consider he has the value of a first you need to stop making proposals.

You’re taking this way too seriously. You’re getting heated over discussion over a fake proposal. Keep your players we’ll keep ours.

 

[Smitty426]

hed make more of an impact than meier

He'd be 39, no thx. Timos fine

 

[Smitty426]

In fairness, Fabian Zetterlund would make more of an impact than Timo right now.

Season from hell for Timo so far with the injuries and lack of performance

Timo had 11 pts in first 15 games. Zets 16 pts in all 38 to date. Love Zets and Timos not playing, so your pt. works, but there's a difference

 

[DingDongCharlie]

That's a garbage trade for NJ

Work something around the 1st+ for Hanifin and call it day. Markstrom even with improved play has little value at that cap hit and a Nemec for Coronato makes no sense for a club as deep as NJ upfront.

Add having to use Hamilton LTIR space even to get this deal done and pretend there's no cap issues next season and moving forward?

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

That writer should have removed Coronato and replaced Nemec with Casey in the proposal if he wanted to cook up something credible.

 

[blankall]

I’m completely fine with no variation of this trade happening.

You need a better goalie.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

You need a better goalie.

I agree. Devils were linked to Gibson a while back too. I just can’t see nor do I want the Devils to trade Nemec or Mercer for an older goalie. I can see Vanecek, 1st, and a prospect like Stillman or a second for Markstrom.

 

[blankall]

I agree. Devils were linked to Gibson a while back too. I just can’t see nor do I want the Devils to trade Nemec or Mercer for an older goalie. I can see Vanecek, 1st, and a prospect like Stillman or a second for Markstrom.

That's actually not bad. 1st plus 2nd could definitely be the basis for a Markstrom trade, assuming the organization is going that way.

You were responding to a post I made about 1st, plus Foote, plus Vanecek for Markstrom. Nothing to do with Nemec.

 

[cwede]

Did they mean Mercer instead of Nemec? Mercer is a center the thread title advertised.
Vanecek Mercer Foote 1st
For
Markstrom Hanifin Coronato

That seems light from NJ though but I don’t see Nemec being moved.

he was citing 2 articles - the one about trading a C was about Mcleod

Then came the blockbuster article,

but I agree (as NYR fan, fine with it) that moving Nemec is extremely unlikely (and kinda dumb)
I look at Hughes/Nemec potential and think of the 2 Scott's anchoring too many Cups

 

[Double Dion]

You aren’t going to find a Devils fan on here willing to part with Nemec. Maybe drop him and Coronato completely.

Vanecek
Foote
1st

For

Markstrom
Hanifin


or

Vanecek
Foote or 1st

For

Markstrom

Foote isn't an asset. Vanecek is a negative asset. You're asking for a top pairing defenseman and a starting goalie. Hanifin alone is worth more.

Foote doesn't equal a 1st, better D are available on waivers. Your deal for Markstrom is an overpay if we just take the 1st.

 

[crowi]

This is pure fantasy that NJ would give up Nemec.

 

[Stephen Gionta]

Coronato has been great in the AHL and isn’t far off being back in the NHL. He’s a good, young player with lots of upside - exactly what the Flames would be looking to receive in any deal they make for their older UFAs. This deal makes no sense at all.

Coronato is from the NY/NJ area - if they deal him, it could be an attempt of them getting ahead of another Matthew Tkachuk/Adam Fox/Johnny Gaudreau situation where the player wants to leave CGY to go back East....

 

[dirtydanglez]

He'd be 39, no thx. Timos fine

in 9 years lol.

youre letting the pursuit of perfection get in the way of progress.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Foote isn't an asset. Vanecek is a negative asset. You're asking for a top pairing defenseman and a starting goalie. Hanifin alone is worth more.

Foote doesn't equal a 1st, better D are available on waivers. Your deal for Markstrom is an overpay if we just take the 1st.

Vanacek is signed for just over half of what Markstom makes and is 6 years younger as well as only having 1 year left on his deal, there is no chance he's a negative asset. Foote isn't a D so I'd assume any D on waivers would be better than him seeing as he's playing out of position.

While I agree this isn't a good deal for Calgary, there is no need to spew false narrative and things that are straight up wrong to prove your point.

 

[Volica]

I think this is much larger than it needs to be.

Hanifin will be the best defender on the market.
Markstrom if made available is the best goalie on the market.
Tanev will be the second best defender on the market.
Lindholm will be the best forward on the market.

If Calgary can't secure the bag this deadline, I have no hope for this franchise.