Prospect Info: Jacob Bernard-Docker (D) 3 year ELC signed

[Cosmix]

Could rent a place in Belleville and catch the games live. Best way to scout a player.

For 2 seasons in a row JBD was a 1st over the boards shut down guy. Thomson is a more fluid skater, has a better shot, can put up more points but is not as reliable defensively and Guenette started to eat into some of Thomson's PP time. Don't count Guenette out among the 3 of them.

I would like to see more of Guenette too as he seems to have good offensive skills..

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I was just trying to be positive at the time. JBD was not considered an above average skater at any point. At best it was considered average/passable.

Actually neither was Tychonick for that matter. Not sure what I was smoking when I posted that.

It was a dumb pick from a scouting staff that tried to be the smartest scouts in the room far too often.

I'm sorry man but if you cant read this and see the great irony I think you are probably smoking on the same pack

 

[Xspyrit]

We have enough small Dman. Nothing about JBD is remarkable enough to be an NHL full timer

You don't need to be "remarkable" to be in the NHL, yes compared to every hockey player on the planet but did you think that Josh Georges or Dylan DeMelo were remarkable when watching them? That's the type of potential JBD has. Nothing special but reliable defensive hockey.

Hope JBD grows a pair like Georges, now that'd be useful. He'd block a lot of shots with it

 

[Cosmix]

Could rent a place in Belleville and catch the games live. Best way to scout a player.

For 2 seasons in a row JBD was a 1st over the boards shut down guy. Thomson is a more fluid skater, has a better shot, can put up more points but is not as reliable defensively and Guenette started to eat into some of Thomson's PP time. Don't count Guenette out among the 3 of them.

Could be expensive to become an amateur scout.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Could be expensive to become an amateur scout.

I'm sure you can do it.

 

[JD1]

I’m not arguing one way or the other about JBD or what he’s turned into. His skating was viewed as an asset, basically unanimously, prior to the draft. Mann mentions it, McKenzie and Button mentioned it, essentially every scouting report on the player mentioned it. It was one of the reasons he jumped 40 spots in the NHLCS rankings. Saying that he was never considered a mobile D, or strong skating D, is just factually incorrect.

Silly Bondra .... You think you're in a discussion about facts when you're actually battling a narrative

 

[aragorn]

Based on my viewings at previous development camps.

JBD - very dependable defensive defenceman who makes good decisions & should be partnered with a more offensive defenceman. Is a little more physical given his size, but also uses his stick effectively & plays a very good positional game & is a decent skater. Slightly better defensively.

Thomson - good skater, hard shot from the point, but not as good defensively & doesn't always make good decisions or good reads, could be more physical. Slightly better offensively.

Guennette - good skater, plays a decent defensive game & a decent offensive game. Needs to improve his positioning & reads but continues to improve his overall game. Slightly better two way D, not quite as good as JBD defensively, but slightly better offensively & not quite as good as Thomson offensively, but slightly better defensively. Could be a little more physical.

 

[Cosmix]

Based on my viewings at previous development camps.

JBD - very dependable defensive defenceman who makes good decisions & should be partnered with a more offensive defenceman. Is a little more physical given his size, but also uses his stick effectively & plays a very good positional game & is a decent skater. Slightly better defensively.

Thomson - good skater, hard shot from the point, but not as good defensively & doesn't always make good decisions or good reads, could be more physical. Slightly better offensively.

Guennette - good skater, plays a decent defensive game & a decent offensive game. Needs to improve his positioning & reads but continues to improve his overall game. Slightly better two way D, not quite as good as JBD defensively, but slightly better offensively & not quite as good as Thomson offensively, but slightly better defensively. Could be a little more physical.

None of Bernard-Docker, Thomson or Guennette have shown me that they are physically tough defencemen. Other than that I agree with your assessment. However I really liked Lassi when he came up for games; he really impressed me with his skating.

 

[aragorn]

None of Bernard-Docker, Thomson or Guennette have shown me that they are physically tough defencemen. Other than that I agree with your assessment. However I really liked Lassi when he came up for games; he really impressed me with his skating.

Thomson is a good skater & probably slightly better than JBD, but JBD is a decent skater too, especially backing up. Guennette is also a good skater & quicker in transition moving forward. Looking forward to seeing Kleven this summer. The biggest problem with our defence is that they are young like some of our forwards who are just now starting to figure it out. This team is going to get better every yr moving forward especially on defence & hopefully in net.

 

[Micklebot]

Based on my viewings at previous development camps.

JBD - very dependable defensive defenceman who makes good decisions & should be partnered with a more offensive defenceman. Is a little more physical given his size, but also uses his stick effectively & plays a very good positional game & is a decent skater. Slightly better defensively.

Thomson - good skater, hard shot from the point, but not as good defensively & doesn't always make good decisions or good reads, could be more physical. Slightly better offensively.

Guennette - good skater, plays a decent defensive game & a decent offensive game. Needs to improve his positioning & reads but continues to improve his overall game. Slightly better two way D, not quite as good as JBD defensively, but slightly better offensively & not quite as good as Thomson offensively, but slightly better defensively. Could be a little more physical.

That's my read to, though from limited viewing.

 

[Micklebot]

None of Bernard-Docker, Thomson or Guennette have shown me that they are physically tough defencemen. Other than that I agree with your assessment. However I really liked Lassi when he came up for games; he really impressed me with his skating.

Lassi can look really promising in short bursts, he's got the best toolset of the bunch, but I really question his decision making at times.

 

[God Says No]

Based on my viewings at previous development camps.

JBD - very dependable defensive defenceman who makes good decisions & should be partnered with a more offensive defenceman. Is a little more physical given his size, but also uses his stick effectively & plays a very good positional game & is a decent skater. Slightly better defensively.

Thomson - good skater, hard shot from the point, but not as good defensively & doesn't always make good decisions or good reads, could be more physical. Slightly better offensively.

Guennette - good skater, plays a decent defensive game & a decent offensive game. Needs to improve his positioning & reads but continues to improve his overall game. Slightly better two way D, not quite as good as JBD defensively, but slightly better offensively & not quite as good as Thomson offensively, but slightly better defensively. Could be a little more physical.

Yeah spot on assessment. I still have Guenette as the best of the 3.

 

[DrEasy]

JBD makes me think of Ceci, hopefully a good version thereof! What's a good comparison for Lassi? Chris Wideman?

 

[DJB]

Lassi can look really promising in short bursts, he's got the best toolset of the bunch, but I really question his decision making at times.

If we are lucky Lassi turns out to be another Ceci

 

[bicboi64]

If we are lucky Lassi turns out to be another Ceci

If we can get 100 games out of him that'd be dope, but no trade for a zaitsev plz

 

[Cosmix]

Lassi can look really promising in short bursts, he's got the best toolset of the bunch, but I really question his decision making at times.

Hopefully his decision-making will improve with experience.

 

[OD99]

Guenette has been a dark horse for a while and as a player who moved to D later in his career I am quite impressed by him.

His progression the last 2 years is significant and he takes a big jump in this 3rd year then we are looking pretty good for bottom pair RD. The completion is great for him and JBD to keep pushing each other.

 

[Xspyrit]

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Now that's a smart signing, 2 years seems risky but it will be cheap for those 2 years. If you project him to hold his ground in the NHL, nice little steal of a contract

It's a 1-way contract by the way

Good thing that he is in the plans. RHDs who can be good defensively don't grow on trees. IMO, the best way to develop him would be to play him on Sanderson's right

Chabot - Chychrun
Sanderson - JBD
Brannstrom - Zub

Why Zub on the 3rd pair? They're very good together and that is a way above average 3rd pair

 

[coladin]

Nice!

 

[Micklebot]

Solid deal for him, worst case he's a cheap 7th D,

 

[Sun God Nika]

1 way both years? Not bad might make it easier to let him pass through waivers

 

[BondraTime]

Very nice to get a cheap option with upside in the 6/7 role.

Wonder if we risk Thomson on waivers or try to get a late pick for him.

 

[Icelevel]

That’s good. He should be improved this year.
Kleven might be better than him already though.

 

[Boud]

Perfect for us!

 

[Micklebot]

Very nice to get a cheap option with upside in the 6/7 role.

Wonder if we risk Thomson on waivers or try to get a late pick for him.

We'll likely start the season with 8 D, and there's always injuries

Chabot-Zub
Sanderson-Chychrun
Brannstrom-JBD

Thomson, Hamonic/UFA?

Depending on the UFA, they'll get subbed in to the 3rd pair, but I see us rotating JBD and Thomson in the lineup until one of them shows they earned it.