Player Discussion Jack Quinn, RW (8th overall, 2020): Named AHL Rookie of the Year

[MOGlLNY]

To me this is clear as a day. He and Peterka wants out.

Neither are true

 

[TageGod]

We're back to why I didn't like him as a prospect. Not particularly fast. Not particularly big/feisty. Not a playmaker.

His one big gift was shooting, and he's stopped doing that. At the pace of a trajectory right now, he'll be in Europe within 3 years if he doesn't drastically change things.

Odd take. One of his biggest assets is his IQ. He is extremely skilled too. Solid defensively (we need more of those). Right now I think it was conditioning coming back from the injuries. When he is physically up to par next season (hopefully), he should have more confidence next season. We all remember how dynamic that kid line was.

 

[Selanne00008]

Even Krebs got a 2 yr 1.45 mill deal..

He isn't getting just a 1 yr deal

5X5 for $25M most likely.

 

[Chainshot]

It seems like Quinn's issues were in preparation. I don't know the exact particulars but he's about to have another really, really, really long off-season to work on his body. He seems like he's behind and has been all season. Is he serious about remaining an NHLer? Is there a way to inspire him into putting in the work off the ice on his body, including what he's putting into it, to get back to where he was at the peak of his production?

If they grant him one more chance -- this being his third IMO -- to be an important part of the team, he has to put the work in. And if they don't, it becomes someone else's problem. When he was on, there was really something special about his ability to disguise his shot in the slot and to create for others off the half-wall, even on his backhand. But that's not been there this year in a vast majority of his games. I don't know if he has the structures in his life to get back to what he should be on his own.

 

[Beerz]

It seems like Quinn's issues were in preparation. I don't know the exact particulars but he's about to have another really, really, really long off-season to work on his body. He seems like he's behind and has been all season. Is he serious about remaining an NHLer? Is there a way to inspire him into putting in the work off the ice on his body, including what he's putting into it, to get back to where he was at the peak of his production?

If they grant him one more chance -- this being his third IMO -- to be an important part of the team, he has to put the work in. And if they don't, it becomes someone else's problem. When he was on, there was really something special about his ability to disguise his shot in the slot and to create for others off the half-wall, even on his backhand. But that's not been there this year in a vast majority of his games. I don't know if he has the structures in his life to get back to what he should be on his own.

My guess is ..he was burnt out by the two rehabs he had to go thru last year and just didn't take the offseason seriously enough. He got off to a rough start and it just buried him for the year.

 

[Fezzy126]

It seems like Quinn's issues were in preparation. I don't know the exact particulars but he's about to have another really, really, really long off-season to work on his body. He seems like he's behind and has been all season. Is he serious about remaining an NHLer? Is there a way to inspire him into putting in the work off the ice on his body, including what he's putting into it, to get back to where he was at the peak of his production?

If they grant him one more chance -- this being his third IMO -- to be an important part of the team, he has to put the work in. And if they don't, it becomes someone else's problem. When he was on, there was really something special about his ability to disguise his shot in the slot and to create for others off the half-wall, even on his backhand. But that's not been there this year in a vast majority of his games. I don't know if he has the structures in his life to get back to what he should be on his own.

Outside of Benson, there was no forward prospect I was higher on as a member of our long term core. Less than a year later, there is no one I'm lower on. I tend to have more patience than others, but internal drive and competitiveness are non-negotiables for me. The past few years I saw a nasty prick with high level skill and elite IQ, now he looks like a slow and out of shape kid that spends more time in his own head than the gym.

So now I'm firmly in the trade him before the prospect shine completely wears out. If he goes full Hagel and the kick in the ass propels him to high level success, so be it.

 

[sabremike]

Outside of Benson, there was no forward prospect I was higher on as a member of our long term core. Less than a year later, there is no one I'm lower on. I tend to have more patience than others, but internal drive and competitiveness are non-negotiables for me. The past few years I saw a nasty prick with high level skill and elite IQ, now he looks like a slow and out of shape kid that spends more time in his own head than the gym.

So now I'm firmly in the trade him before the prospect shine completely wears out. If he goes full Hagel and the kick in the ass propels him to high level success, so be it.

Right now he would bring back a 4th round pick at best, the prospect shine has completely worn off. Giving him one last shot and hoping he figures it out is the smart move because right now he has no value other than as a reclamation project.

 

[Puppa2Miller]

Wasn't able to workout the way he wanted this offseason. From Lance at Buff News:

Quinn played the final 10 games last season after suffering the broken fibula in San Jose on Jan. 31, but it was too soon for him to train like he typically does each summer.

The workout limitations did not appear to be problematic until the season began in Prague on Oct. 4. Quinn’s first stride wasn’t as quick and efficient as it was before the injuries. He noticed lower-body strength was also a problem, which caused him to adjust his between-games workout routines

Though 11 games remained after Thursday night, the past several months have crystalized his summer plans and motivated him to improve quickly. “The league humbled me a bit this year, and I learned a good lesson in that,” Quinn added. “My mindset is strong, and my vision is strong in what I want to do this summer.”
Sabres notes: Jack Quinn determined to rebound from challenging Year 3

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Wasn't able to workout the way he wanted this offseason. From Lance at Buff News:

Quinn played the final 10 games last season after suffering the broken fibula in San Jose on Jan. 31, but it was too soon for him to train like he typically does each summer.

The workout limitations did not appear to be problematic until the season began in Prague on Oct. 4. Quinn’s first stride wasn’t as quick and efficient as it was before the injuries. He noticed lower-body strength was also a problem, which caused him to adjust his between-games workout routines

Though 11 games remained after Thursday night, the past several months have crystalized his summer plans and motivated him to improve quickly. “The league humbled me a bit this year, and I learned a good lesson in that,” Quinn added. “My mindset is strong, and my vision is strong in what I want to do this summer.”
Sabres notes: Jack Quinn determined to rebound from challenging Year 3

Unfortunately for him he cost himself a lot of money with this season.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Wasn't able to workout the way he wanted this offseason. From Lance at Buff News:

Quinn played the final 10 games last season after suffering the broken fibula in San Jose on Jan. 31, but it was too soon for him to train like he typically does each summer.

The workout limitations did not appear to be problematic until the season began in Prague on Oct. 4. Quinn’s first stride wasn’t as quick and efficient as it was before the injuries. He noticed lower-body strength was also a problem, which caused him to adjust his between-games workout routines

Though 11 games remained after Thursday night, the past several months have crystalized his summer plans and motivated him to improve quickly. “The league humbled me a bit this year, and I learned a good lesson in that,” Quinn added. “My mindset is strong, and my vision is strong in what I want to do this summer.”
Sabres notes: Jack Quinn determined to rebound from challenging Year 3

I really hope he’s able to have a big summer and get back on track next season. Kid’s got plenty of talent.

 

[Tatanka]

I also think he is finding mojo playing with JJ. Both are creative and need a speed C to keep up and cover.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Good article on Quinn and his tribulations this season by Lance today, behind paywall though.

Sabres notes: Jack Quinn determined to rebound from challenging Year 3

Quinn's struggles have forced him to reflect, problem-solve and plot a plan to fix what’s ailed him since his third NHL season began in October.

buffalonews.com

 

[Dubi Doo]

Outside of Benson, there was no forward prospect I was higher on as a member of our long term core. Less than a year later, there is no one I'm lower on. I tend to have more patience than others, but internal drive and competitiveness are non-negotiables for me. The past few years I saw a nasty prick with high level skill and elite IQ, now he looks like a slow and out of shape kid that spends more time in his own head than the gym.

So now I'm firmly in the trade him before the prospect shine completely wears out. If he goes full Hagel and the kick in the ass propels him to high level success, so be it.

Same. It's a shame, but I wouldn't trade him if the value isn't there. No way he's penned into the LU next year, either, but he can be our 13th forward who battles for a spot next year.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

At this point I'd hold on to him. Trading for pennies on the dollar isn't the play. Hope for a turn around, but frankly I'm not expecting it.

If someone offered 50-75 cents on the dollar I might snap at that.

 

[BUCKSHOT]

Someone told Quinn he needs a contract for next season

 

[Chainshot]

Someone told Quinn he needs a contract for next season

That line is still very high event.