Speculation: Jack Hughes Possibly Out Long Term. Who Can Devils Bring In For Now?

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Trevor Zegras
Brian Dumoulin


Simon Nemec

I think Zegras would be a great fit in NJ. He's best as a C, and I think he could unlock some depth scoring down the lineup when Hughes comes back, and push Haula to 4C where he belongs. He'd also be a guy who can boost our 2nd PP unit, and could fill in as a top 2C in the seemingly likely scenario where one of Hughes or Hischier are injured.

Palat - Hughes - Bratt
Noesen - Hischier - Mercer
Cotter - Zegras - Meier
Bastian - Haula - Tatar

Dumoulin would be a nice replacement for Siegenthaler and give us some veteran depth on LD. He'd probably push Dillon to 7th D when Siegs comes back.

Luke - Hamilton
Siegenthaler - Pesce
Dumoulin - Kovacevic
Dillon - Casey

 

[John Mandalorian]

Trevor Zegras
Brian Dumoulin


Simon Nemec

I think Zegras would be a great fit in NJ. He's best as a C, and I think he could unlock some depth scoring down the lineup when Hughes comes back, and push Haula to 4C where he belongs. He'd also be a guy who can boost our 2nd PP unit, and could fill in as a top 2C in the seemingly likely scenario where one of Hughes or Hischier are injured.

Palat - Hughes - Bratt
Noesen - Hischier - Mercer
Cotter - Zegras - Meier
Bastian - Haula - Tatar

Dumoulin would be a nice replacement for Siegenthaler and give us some veteran depth on LD. He'd probably push Dillon to 7th D when Siegs comes back.

Luke - Hamilton
Siegenthaler - Pesce
Dumoulin - Kovacevic
Dillon - Casey

Could be wrong but a Zegras - Nemec deal seems more like a one for one.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Could be wrong but a Zegras - Nemec deal seems more like a one for one.

I think with age and contracts, you have to give the edge to Nemec, but the difference might not he Dumoulin, so Devils may need to add.

 

[Smitty426]

Depends on the cost . Is he a rental or under contact / control ? I’d pay a lot if he isn’t a rental.

3 yrs x $7.1M left
24 yr old rhs C

 

[Smitty426]

Trevor Zegras
Brian Dumoulin


Simon Nemec

I think Zegras would be a great fit in NJ. He's best as a C, and I think he could unlock some depth scoring down the lineup when Hughes comes back, and push Haula to 4C where he belongs. He'd also be a guy who can boost our 2nd PP unit, and could fill in as a top 2C in the seemingly likely scenario where one of Hughes or Hischier are injured.

Palat - Hughes - Bratt
Noesen - Hischier - Mercer
Cotter - Zegras - Meier
Bastian - Haula - Tatar

Dumoulin would be a nice replacement for Siegenthaler and give us some veteran depth on LD. He'd probably push Dillon to 7th D when Siegs comes back.

Luke - Hamilton
Siegenthaler - Pesce
Dumoulin - Kovacevic
Dillon - Casey

Do we more small cool dangling shootout players? I dont.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Do we more small cool dangling shootout players? I dont.

We need someone who can create offense, and Zegras can do that. Don't let his counting stats in Anaheim fool you.

 

[HabsQC]

Cozens ?

 

[StewieP19]

What exactly New jersey front office wants ?
A rental player or a guy with term?
To me they have to go with a guy with terms due to Hughes conditions always injured !!!
Does they have an interest in Casey Mittlestadt ?
To me he can be a good fit in New Jersey

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Jack has bros, but does he have.. Cozens?

I don’t actually wanna make a deal, just a bad pun.

I liked it

 

[Stealth JD]

Casey + cap dump for B. Schenn?

 

[TBF1972]

any move depends on if hughes can pull a kucherov/stone and be back for game 1 of the playoffs. If he can then add the pieces.

If not then i wouldnt. Team has been struggling lately with Hughes so without him its going to be problematic and there is no point in paying an expensive price if your best player wont be back in the playoffs imo.

If hughes can be back for the playoffs game 1 then get as much secondary scoring as you can since after hughes and bratt there is a drop off

team was really struggling without hischier. the devils are not the same when one of their #1oa picks is not in the line up.

 

[BigDevs93]

3 yrs x $7.1M left
24 yr old rhs C

Where do you get your information?

He's a left shot centre with 1 year left after this one at 5.75. RFA at end of deal

Wouldn't be my first player to target but I think his value is down right now and could thrive in a new environment with higher skilled players.

 

[Smitty426]

Where do you get your information?

He's a left shot centre with 1 year left after this one at 5.75. RFA at end of deal

Wouldn't be my first player to target but I think his value is down right now and could thrive in a new environment with higher skilled players.

We may be talking about different players. My back and forth has been about Dylan Cozens from Buffalo. Who is definitely a righty center. He is in year 2 of 7 that pays him $7.1M per. He is def having a down year. I dont like his AAV but I think he is what we want Mercer to be:

https://puckpedia.com/player/dylan-cozens

Cozens ?

I think I'm there if 86 is LTIR'd

 

[BigDevs93]

We may be talking about different players. My back and forth has been about Dylan Cozens from Buffalo. Who is definitely a righty center. He is in year 2 of 7 that pays him $7.1M per. He is def having a down year. I dont like is AAV but I think he is what we want Mercer to be:

Gotcha, my bad

 

[Smitty426]

We need someone who can create offense, and Zegras can do that. Don't let his counting stats in Anaheim fool you.

I don't look at stats until you get past what he looks like on the ice.
I'm looking at a waterbug who dangles. Take his production add a defensive side to him and add 20 lbs. That guy, I'll take.

 

[TGWL]

Zib
we can retain max 50% to 4.25
believe it or not, someone said he had most pts in Feb!

price: rights to Silayev

For the same reason you want to trade Zibanejad is the same reason NJ would not give you a prospect like Silayev.
I don't think Rangers are interested in retaining 50% right now.

Zibanejad has 15 points in his last 11 games. I think NY will wait and see how next season start for Zibanejad before they retain 50%, should he be willing to move. I'd be surprised to see a big trade like this, between NJD and NYR, helping the other in their playoff push.

It's all pointless becuase they just drafted Silayev and he's not being moved for a roster replacement when your top player goes down.

 

[bernmeister]

For the same reason you want to trade Zibanejad is the same reason NJ would not give you a prospect like Silayev.
I don't think Rangers are interested in retaining 50% right now.

Zibanejad has 15 points in his last 11 games. I think NY will wait and see how next season start for Zibanejad before they retain 50%, should he be willing to move. I'd be surprised to see a big trade like this, between NJD and NYR, helping the other in their playoff push.

It's all pointless becuase they just drafted Silayev and he's not being moved for a roster replacement when your top player goes down.

that's fully fair
other side of the coin is "necessity is the mother of invention"
NJ can take its chances more or less as is, or it can gamble, small or big

there is "a roster replacement" and then there is "a roster replacement".
Who may be offered/at what price?

Sure if there is a better offer, Devs should take it.
But let's see the offers.

If the gamble is made this would be a big high risk/reward move to capitalize on Zib's hot streak, which may well given his prior history showing penchant to run hot and cold, work out

Silayev must come back or no deal, that we are eating half is a valued consideration

 

[My3Sons]

that's fully fair
other side of the coin is "necessity is the mother of invention"
NJ can take its chances more or less as is, or it can gamble, small or big

there is "a roster replacement" and then there is "a roster replacement".
Who may be offered/at what price?

Sure if there is a better offer, Devs should take it.
But let's see the offers.

If the gamble is made this would be a big high risk/reward move to capitalize on Zib's hot streak, which may well given his prior history showing penchant to run hot and cold, work out

Silayev must come back or no deal, that we are eating half is a valued consideration

That's fine. No deal to be made.

 

[bernmeister]

That's fine. No deal to be made.

fine also this end
let me know what high end offers you get, and if any are affordable

 

[My3Sons]

fine also this end
let me know what high end offers you get, and if any are affordable

You are actually trying to imply that NJ's best move is to surrender Silayev for Zibanejad just because the Rangers retain? Hughes might miss the rest of the season. If that is the case Zibanejad isn't saving NJ. You don't surrender a top 10 pick you just made just to hope to squeeze into the playoffs. How about the Rangers send Perrault to NJ for Dougie Hamilton? NJ will retain 50%. Let me know what high end offer NY gets that is better than that.

 

[bernmeister]

You are actually trying to imply that NJ's best move is to surrender Silayev for Zibanejad just because the Rangers retain? Hughes might miss the rest of the season. If that is the case Zibanejad isn't saving NJ. You don't surrender a top 10 pick you just made just to hope to squeeze into the playoffs. How about the Rangers send Perrault to NJ for Dougie Hamilton? NJ will retain 50%. Let me know what high end offer NY gets that is better than that.

Rs do not need to be saved
Best long term move for them is to miss POs and keep pick this yr
that's a crucial dif

when zib played like shit, his value commanded crap
player is not w/o warts, but he had most pts someone said since Feb 1
if that checks out his value and ask is commensurate

again, you don't want to go there, fine
let me know what good offers you actually get

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Between Tkachuk, Theodore, Hughes, and Seguin being put long term this could end up being a really interesting deadline. Pair that with like 10 teams being within 3 points of a playoff spot and it's impossible to tell who's actually available right now

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I don't look at stats until you get past what he looks like on the ice.
I'm looking at a waterbug who dangles.

Yeah, who wants guys like that. It's not like our two best offensive players fit that description or anything.

Take his production add a defensive side to him and add 20 lbs. That guy, I'll take.

A player like that would not be available in a trade.

But we already have plenty of big, slow forward who can't create offense. We could use some more dynamic offensive threats.

Zib
we can retain max 50% to 4.25
believe it or not, someone said he had most pts in Feb!

price: rights to Silayev

Dear god that's terrible for NJ. Zib is totally cooked and has never been that good outside of the PP.

 

[Smitty426]

Yeah, who wants guys like that. It's not like our two best offensive players fit that description or anything.


A player like that would not be available in a trade.

But we already have plenty of big, slow forward who can't create offense. We could use some more dynamic offensive threats.

How many years until 86 was that? Its his first year and done all on his own by his words. Zegras is lazy and he wants ESPN highlights, he wants to play at the Garden anyway.

I dont know about that, word is in Buffalo Cozens could be traded-

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Guess we will find out once 86s injury comes to light

 

[Smitty426]

Dear god that's terrible for NJ. Zib is totally cooked and has never been that good outside of the PP.

I agree Zib here is lunacy, Bern peddle that crap elsewhere! You're not getting a 6'7 guy WHO CAN SKATE from us!