Value of: J.G. Pageau

[Indy18]

Severson
Luca Del Bel Belluz

For

Pelech
Pageau

Personally if it was me that's a done deal!

 

[seabass45]

Severson
Luca Del Bel Belluz

For

Pelech
Pageau

Severson doesn’t really do anything for us. If we’re trading both Pelech and Pageau it’s for picks and prospects.

 

[miscs75]

Severson
Luca Del Bel Belluz

For

Pelech
Pageau

Severson has too much term left.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

Pageau would be a good replacement for Dvorak with the Habs.

Is Dvorak the 3rd line center for the Habs? If the answer is yes, then Pageau would be an excellent replacement.

 

[1909]

Is Dvorak the 3rd line center for the Habs? If the answer is yes, then Pageau would be an excellent replacement.

Yes he is

 

[boredmale]

So Islanders if we are asking for Pelech and Pageau with Zero retention and Columbus is willing to part with a 2C prospect that is looking like they are ready for a breakout in the NHL (Luca Del Bel Belluz) what draft picks (or even players) you looking at there.

Just my 2 cents on Pelech. You can sort of see his skills diminishing from a few years ago. Not saying it's a terrible contract, I don't think it's in the negative zone yet(not that I think it's worth much in the positive zone either) but he has 5 years left on the deal. Buyer beware basically

Now that being said maybe his skills haven't gotten worse it's just a case the team defensively has gotten worse so all of a sudden he is put in situations his wasn't from like 2018-2021. I still to this day don't understand how our PK went from like top 5 in the league to bottom 2 the past few seasons given we basically have the same makeup of players

 

[saintunspecified]

I don't see Pageau being moved. He's not good enough at C anymore (he's better as a winger who takes faceoffs) to have value. On the other hand, NYI need centers.

Pageau's game has really changed, because he just doesn't win battles with pure relentlessness the way he used to.

 

[majormajor]

So Islanders if we are asking for Pelech and Pageau with Zero retention and Columbus is willing to part with a 2C prospect that is looking like they are ready for a breakout in the NHL (Luca Del Bel Belluz) what draft picks (or even players) you looking at there.

You have in other contexts Isles fans happy to get like a 2nd round pick for Pageau and happy to be rid of Pelech's contract altogether, so I think if the Jackets are taking them without retention and without sending cap back, then Del Bel Belluz is overkill here. There's not many 21 year olds who have done what he's done in the AHL and NHL so far.

Severson
Luca Del Bel Belluz

For

Pelech
Pageau

That deal feels almost even, but then you think there's a much bigger risk of decline with both Pelech and Pageau. I think the Jackets could use those players but with the risk involved they might balk at including LDBB.

And most realistically the market for Severson and Pelech is going to be very team dependent. Some teams are going to have great use for Severson in their system and some teams are going to have great use for Pelech in their system (if his health holds up), but the chances of it working as a swap are low.

 

[boredmale]

And most realistically the market for Severson and Pelech is going to be very team dependent. Some teams are going to have great use for Severson in their system and some teams are going to have great use for Pelech in their system (if his health holds up), but the chances of it working as a swap are low.

And in Islanders case it probably more a case we have more need for the LHD than the RHD

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

Yes he is

Thanks. Every once in a while a poster will look at Pageau as a possible 2nd line center and that is way far off.

Excellent third line center, absolutely. Second line center? No way.

 

[Disgraced Cosmonaut]

With the rising cap, I don't really see GM Darche moving the 1-year guys unless he gets something he likes or he reels in a big fish. Both Lee and JGP had solid years. They will, if healthy, be good guys to move at the deadline if the Isles are out of it. If they're in, you have two long term vets you don't have to pay beyond next June. That's not bad at this point.

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

Pageau would be a good replacement for Dvorak with the Habs.

Another right shot center though. Habs really need left shot

 

[seafoam]

I don't see Pageau being moved. He's not good enough at C anymore (he's better as a winger who takes faceoffs) to have value. On the other hand, NYI need centers.

Pageau's game has really changed, because he just doesn't win battles with pure relentlessness the way he used to.

I wouldn't be surprised if Pageau puts together a nice season for himself in '25-'26.

He's been injured on and off since basically joining NYI and he's going to presumably come into camp completely healthy with extra rest from NYI missing the playoffs.

He'll be in a contract year and this is his last chance to make some decent coin for him and his family. Whether he's with NYI or not I suspect he'll flirt with 20 tucks next year.

 

[The Real JT]

I still to this day don't understand how our PK went from like top 5 in the league to bottom 2 the past few seasons given we basically have the same makeup of players

I’d say the PK decline has more to do with the ineffectiveness of the forwards rather than the Dmen. I’d be remiss not to mention the coaching too.

 

[boredmale]

I’d say the PK decline has more to do with the ineffectiveness of the forwards rather than the Dmen. I’d be remiss not to mention the coaching too.

You would think somebody would say, ok what exactly were we doing right when we had a top 5 PK, let's go back to doing that. lol

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Okay, so I can check their Puckpedia . . .

Maybe they want Pelech too?

Hmmm,

Pageau with 50% retained
Pelech

for

Jarnkrok
Victor Johansson
Reaves (we'll bury him or buyout)
2026 5th
2027 6th

If they only want Pageau, it would be Johansson and the 2026 5th with $2 million retained

Leafs don't need Pelech, their defense is set.

 

[Fatass]

Value as a 3C?

 

[Isles72]

will have to see what Darche's first few weeks on the job look like and if he's keeping Roy around .

Roy loves certain players and JG is one of them - often refering to him as a Guy Carbonneau style of guy but he might realize its best for the organization to get an asset for Pager at some point , preferably at the deadline where gm's do indeed get stupid .

 

[boredmale]

will have to see what Darche's first few weeks on the job look like and if he's keeping Roy around .

Roy loves certain players and JG is one of them - often refering to him as a Guy Carbonneau style of guy but he might realize its best for the organization to get an asset for Pager at some point , preferably at the deadline where gm's do indeed get stupid .

I keep Pageau unless we need capspace, even then I try dump Duclair or Mayfield first(I have no delusion we will get rid of Engvall given the length of that deal)

 

[hamzarocks]

Pageau@50% for 2025 2nd from TOR

 

[miscs75]

Pageau@50% for 2025 2nd from TOR

Isles pass

 

[Glorydays22]

Pageau@50% for 2025 2nd from TOR

no

 

[saintunspecified]

Isles pass

And this is why he won' be dealt. Because that offer is about right - JGP has little value at the moment, and the fact that he wasn't traded at the last deadline says a bit about his value to begin this year.

I think he starts the season with NYI, and NYI may well deal him with retention at the deadline.

imo his best fit with NYI right now is to play with Barzal where they rotate in and out of C position.