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Value of: J Anderson (50% retention for 2 more years)

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Crazy8oooo said:
This thread is odd. OP brings Anderson up in a value thread on the main board, presumably to hear what others feel his value is, only to talk down at them when they don’t offer up the value that the OP thinks he’s worth. This is all opinion based from all fans, including the OP yet anything less than the OP’s perceived value is trolling?!. 🤔
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It's definitely a troll post by the OP. He's not thinking this thru.

A bad contract like Josh Anderson with 2+ years remaining isn't something NHL GMs are calling the Habs about. And the Habs GM isn't making calls to move Anderson either because he knows they'll go no where.

Habs GM is likely shopping all his pending UFAs because those are the guys much more likely to be traded.

If anything, Anderson is potentially moved in the off-season for a bad contract coming back from another club in a change of scenery swap to see if two under performing players can be reinvigorated.

The potential Ryan Graves for Josh Anderson deal isn't fun to discuss for anyone.
 
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McJedi said:
I didn't realize he's got three more years on his deal. Yeah... 50% retention over three years too painful for Habs. No way you make a deal for a 3rd in that scenario. My main point was that he's not getting moved until he's a pending UFA (rental) and I'm very very very likely right on that unless his play dramatically improves. $5.5MM is way too much for a mediocre 3rd liner with some pretty wild swings in his production and performances. I suppose he could be moved for an equally bad contract, but those trades are so hard to predict.

Lets just be candid. This Josh Anderson isn't getting traded this year. That's a bad contract and everyone knows it. He's not on anyone's radar for a trade... including the Habs GM. Habs aren't going to retain for that long and no team is going to have any interest in that contract at the full $5.5MM AAV.

You need to settle down and table this Josh Anderson trade business for at least a year and now... very likely two years.

Habs have some pending UFAs... Focus on them. Evans has value for sure. Dvorak will have some at 50% retained. Ditto Savard. You don't have many retention slots do you? If so... the ones you have will go to the pending UFAs.
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We will see. I would put low odds at Anderson being trading this TDL. Higher odds when his term is less (like you said). However, like I said several times, I do think some GM's will knock on the Anderson door at this TDL (Lebrun talked about that a few weeks ago as well). The other angle to this is a team with a contract that is expiring and they want to flip that for Anderson who comes with term but they offset the cap hit with the player they don't want. Pay a price to make the move but improve their team now and for 3 playoff runs.

Gallagher is the one we have a problem with. Still great in the room and has welcomed the bottom 6 role well but man... he's aging quickly. Works very hard but he gets smothered with the puck a lot and it's sad to see. Bergevin was crying when he announced that contract... go figure
 
McJedi said:
It's definitely a troll post by the OP. He's not thinking this thru.

A bad contract like Josh Anderson with 2+ years remaining isn't something NHL GMs are calling the Habs about. And the Habs GM isn't making calls to move Anderson either because he knows they'll go no where.

Habs GM is likely shopping all his pending UFAs because those are the guys much more likely to be traded.

If anything, Anderson is potentially moved in the off-season for a bad contract coming back from another club in a change of scenery swap to see if two under performing players can be reinvigorated.

The potential Ryan Graves for Josh Anderson deal isn't fun to discuss for anyone.
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Take your "Troll" narrative and go somewhere else with it. If you have to use trigger words and exaggerate, you don't have a good point to make. There is a clear history of you devaluing the Habs :nod:. I've been paying attention and I've herd you say several times you hate the Habs. Your Habs opinions are coming from a bad place bud.

This is no longer a bad contract. Get with the times. It's not 2021 anymore with a low flat cap. That $92M+ cap should have happened 2 or 3 years ago but Covid detailed things.

GM's actually like guys with term more than rentals....especially when the cap is rising like it will. Who are you trying to fool with your Covid Flat cap narrative? Yeah sure buddy, nobody is going to knock on the door and it's me trolling. Lebrun saying it as well means nothing to you... It has to be the Habs and their troll game. I think you got this situation confused in your head because you don't like the Habs.

What do you think Anderson gets as a UFA this summer? You don't think he gets close to 2x $5M in this new cap growth? Let me guess, you will replay saying he will get 1x $2M right? The Covid flat cap contract right? :facepalm:
 
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RationalExpectations said:
Guentzel was a rental not a Young proven player traded for a rental, how does it match with the discussion ?
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...again you just asked for names of Young Players traded at the deadline and there were a few just last year...but OK, now you've set perameters...and it just so happens that the Rantanen - Necas trade of this year fits...again, I just posted that it happens that foolish GMs have traded young proven commodities for UFAs...so don't be surprised if it happens again...
 
BigDaddyLurch said:
...again you just asked for names of Young Players traded at the deadline and there were a few just last year...but OK, now you've set perameters...and it just so happens that the Rantanen - Necas trade of this year fits...again, I just posted that it happens that foolish GMs have traded young proven commodities for UFAs...so don't be surprised if it happens again...
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Necas is 26 years old lmao and expires as a UFA.

You have failed to provide a single example that makes even a tiny bit of sense to justify a team giving up a proven young cost controlled asset for 3 months of JAKE EVANS
 
dgibb10 said:
Necas is 26 years old lmao and expires as a UFA.

You have failed to provide a single example that makes even a tiny bit of sense to justify a team giving up a proven young cost controlled asset for 3 months of JAKE EVANS
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...I never even mentioned Evans or anyone else for that matter; reread my post...I simply stated that every Deadline has a "Hold my Beer" moment so don't be shocked if this Deadline has one as well...read the post instead of inferring what you WANT the post to say... :thumbu:
 
BigDaddyLurch said:
...I never even mentioned Evans or anyone else for that matter; reread my post...I simply stated that every Deadline has a "Hold my Beer" moment so don't be shocked if this Deadline has one as well...read the post instead of inferring what you WANT the post to say... :thumbu:
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I read it.

"We MUST get a proven young player (at one of the 2 most valuable positions in hockey) for evans"

"Nobody is giving a proven young player at a premium position"

"Don't be shocked if it happens"
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dgibb10 said:
I read it.

"We MUST get a proven young player (at one of the 2 most valuable positions in hockey) for evans"

"Nobody is giving a proven young player at a premium position"

"Don't be shocked if it happens"
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....NOT what I posted...again, read the entirety of the post...started with a "Hold my Beer" and ended with "don't be shocked if it happens again this year...as in a HOLD MY BEER moment...you INFERRING what you wanted to take out of my post is not the same as what I posted...:teach:

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BigDaddyLurch said:
....NOT what I posted...again, read the entirety of the post...started with a "Hold my Beer" and ended with "don't be shocked if it happens again this year...as in a HOLD MY BEER moment...you INFERRING what you wanted to take out of my post is not the same as what I posted...:teach:

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I don't think Habs are in any rush to move Anderson anymore. I'm sure he's available if something piqued Hughes' interest, I just don't think he's priority trade. There's a line of UFAs including Dvorak, Armia, Savard and maybe Evans (if they can't sign him) ahead of him as well as Gallagher who looks cooked halfway through the season.

Anderson is useful in a smallish forward group that requires his size and toughness. He's been fighting more this year and has found his chair as a primary PKer. He's also a good vet on 2nd youngest team in the league. I wouldn't move him, certainly not with retention.
 
TS Quint said:
LeBrun is a shill for Hughes. Everyone knows that and here is LeBrun again embarrassing himself for his Habs access.

He’s a 30 point player making $5.5m for 2 years after this one. Habs retain 50% and maybe get a 4th if they find a sucker.
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Every team in the league has a shill. Some teams have two like Vancouver
 
It happens sometimes... Matt Savoie is probably the latest name on the list. The most famous one was probably the Filip Forsberg trade. We never know and it all depends of the timing. You can check on the Devils chat in this section that some people throw Nemec name for not that much.
 
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Habs Halifax said:
Not much talk about Anderson trades these days but I can see it picking up, as we get closer to the TDL. Lebrun quote: I do think teams will call the Habs again about Anderson.

No idea how aggressive teams would get but I can see some solid offers being made. Big boy that skates well and can play physical. Seems to have stablized himself in a 3rd line role and a great penalty killer.
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Myers.
 
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