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Prospect Info: Ivan Demidov (2024 5th OA): SKA St. Petersburg (KHL)

Bombshell11 said:
Unpopular opinion but Mesar is fully capable of following Demidov's rhythm.

Its a shame we'll probably never get to see it.

Also i think Demidov is easely going to be the best offensive player from Day 1 so im nto sure why we would play him on the 2nd line rather than the first one?
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Bro mesar is dogshit :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 
Scriptor said:
As a rookie, better to keep him away from biggest defensive responsibilities until he gets accustomed to the pace of the game.

Not saying Demidov won't be on 1st line, but needn't rush him there either. Also, spreading out the fire power will never hurt as Demidov could. being confidence to Slaf, Laine or someone else's game and bring them to a new level for their future play.
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The level of talent of Demi will be undeniable.
And you get 3 years of low cap from him, better maximise it
eklund the clown said:
Easy answer..... nope
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Im pretty sure too
 
The Gr8 Dane said:
Bro mesar is dogshit :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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He 100% has regressed visually but he dint get his opportunities this year after the injury. The team is visibly trying to punish him for the stuff he said last summer and the resistance he offered throughout his journey. Its the only explanation i see.

Mesar shines on a offensive role. So asking him to play physical and not be the driver on a third line, thats going to affect his game. He looks bad without the puck in general but saying he doesnt have the offensive talent to play alongside Demi is madness and uninformed.
 
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Bombshell11 said:
He 100% has regressed visually but he dint get his opportunities this year after the injury. The team is visibly trying to punish him for the stuff he said last summer and the resistance he offered throughout his journey. Its the only explanation i see.

Mesar shines on a offensive role. So asking him to play physical and not be the driver on a third line, thats going to affect his game. He looks bad without the puck in general but saying he doesnt have the offensive talent to play alongside Demi is madness and uninformed.
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I can appreciate that you want to support your guy, but this is delusional. Dude was barely a ppg player in the OHL in his D+2 year. At no point, anywhere in his career, has he demonstrated anything to suggest he's suited to an offensive role, especially in the NHL. Demidov is perhaps the most talented player the Habs have seen in 40 years, and you want to play him with a guy who couldn't even manage 20 goals in the OHL? That's literally insane.
 
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Bombshell11 said:
He 100% has regressed visually but he dint get his opportunities this year after the injury. The team is visibly trying to punish him for the stuff he said last summer and the resistance he offered throughout his journey. Its the only explanation i see.

Mesar shines on a offensive role. So asking him to play physical and not be the driver on a third line, thats going to affect his game. He looks bad without the puck in general but saying he doesnt have the offensive talent to play alongside Demi is madness and uninformed.
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JIMVINNY said:
I can appreciate that you want to support your guy, but this is delusional. Dude was barely a ppg player in the OHL in his D+2 year. At no point, anywhere in his career, has he demonstrated anything to suggest he's suited to an offensive role, especially in the NHL. Demidov is perhaps the most talented player the Habs have seen in 40 years, and you want to play him with a guy who couldn't even manage 20 goals in the OHL? That's literally insane.
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So Mesar scores 4 pts in his first OHL game
Avgs 2 pts per game for the first 20 games in his second OHL season
Scores 3 pts in his first "real" AHL game and leads the team in pts for the first 5 games playing on the third line with 2nd wave PP duties.

Does that not at least tickle your curiosity as to how is this "bust" doing so well every time he's given the opportunity?

I am personally disappointed with some of the decision he's made and his overall body language and body of work on the ice, specially after his injury. But we need to be fair with the way we criticize him. We gotta take his usage into account and so far he's not been used alot.

All i know though is that every time i have doubted him he proved me wrong.

So yes based on what i have seen so far the last 3 years i do believe hes got the talent to play with Demidov eventually and do well.
 
WeThreeKings said:
Can you guys just stop engaging Bombshell on Mesar.
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Bombshell11 said:
Bro were you not telling us Slaf was doing great 3 years ago?
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I'm a Mesar fan and I've defended him fairly on this board. You don't have a rational take when it comes to Mesar and people engaging you on this subject derails every thread.

Ivan Demidov is not playing with Mesar outside of rookie tournament games this summer unless Mesar shows his ability to produce like he did before his injury.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
I'm a Mesar fan and I've defended him fairly on this board. You don't have a rational take when it comes to Mesar and people engaging you on this subject derails every thread.

Ivan Demidov is not playing with Mesar outside of rookie tournament games this summer unless Mesar shows his ability to produce like he did before his injury.
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happens with me on PL, I understand
 
WeThreeKings said:
I'm a Mesar fan and I've defended him fairly on this board. You don't have a rational take when it comes to Mesar and people engaging you on this subject derails every thread.

Ivan Demidov is not playing with Mesar outside of rookie tournament games this summer unless Mesar shows his ability to produce like he did before his injury.
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Where do we disagree then? I dint say he should be given that spot but talent wise he's the only one in the roster that comes close to Demi. Mesar bulked up last summer, he's learning the Pro league this year, maybe in next year's camp he comes in more mature and ready for the NHL i dont know... it looks like a long shot but ultimately i am more worried with which player Demidov will be playing with...

We made Desharnais a 1st line Center for Pacioretty. All the way from the ECHL to 1st Line C.... so

On a side note, people use me to derail threads. Why paint me as the malicious one?
 
Bombshell11 said:
Where do we disagree then? I dint say he should be given that spot but talent wise he's the only one in the roster that comes close to Demi. Mesar bulked up last summer, he's learning the Pro league this year, maybe in next year's camp he comes in more mature and ready for the NHL i dont know... it looks like a long shot but ultimately i am more worried with which player Demidov will be playing with...

We made Desharnais a 1st line Center for Pacioretty. All the way from the ECHL to 1st Line C.... so

On a side note, people use me to derail threads. Why paint me as the malicious one?
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You're not malicious but you have a very outlier opinion on Mesar and engaging with you on it doesn't bring the thread any value because it just ends up going in the same direction.

People know where you stand and they should be the ones not engaging. The onus is on them, not on you.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
I'm a Mesar fan and I've defended him fairly on this board. You don't have a rational take when it comes to Mesar and people engaging you on this subject derails every thread.

Ivan Demidov is not playing with Mesar outside of rookie tournament games this summer unless Mesar shows his ability to produce like he did before his injury.
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You're a Mesar fan? What's that like? 🤣
 
WeThreeKings said:
You're not malicious but you have a very outlier opinion on Mesar and engaging with you on it doesn't bring the thread any value because it just ends up going in the same direction.

People know where you stand and they should be the ones not engaging. The onus is on them, not on you.
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Is there a place we can check with you on who and who not to engage in? Like a guide or something?
 
CHwest said:
Is there a place we can check with you on who and who not to engage in? Like a guide or something?
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We need one.

Or you can discuss with Bombshell for 80th time this year about how he proclaimed Mesar would score 200 in the OHL and he'll tell you that Mesar is being punished for something and it will be totally new content.
 
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