Prospect Info: Ivan Demidov (2024 5th OA): SKA St. Petersburg (KHL)

Demidov will be so much fun to watch. Especially as a continuation of the Hutson mesmerization of opponents.

Right now, Hab players are a little bewildered themselves when Hutson puts his skills on display. I think that Demidov would be more of a keep that shit going once he got the puck from Hutson.

Demidov and Hutson are both reasons why we need skilled players in the top-6, at least, able to read developing plays in order to complete them. Otherwise, you end up with two special layers playing as one-man shows by necessity from others being unable to capitalize on their creativity and talent.

Laine fits into this category as a 'finisher'. It might not be the sexiest, but his ability to rifle that puck in à la Ovechkin is nothing to smirk at.

I don't know what the chemistry will be between Demidov and other top-6 options on the Habs, but players able to see the ice and creative enough to exploit what they see developing are clearly Suzuki, Caufield and Slafkovsky. The younger Mouseketeer doesn't get enough credit for his on ice vision that makes him want to be a playmaker more than a shooter (despite the good one-timer).

I would even be comfortable playing both Caufield and Laine on the same line since Caufield would benefit from Laine as a pass option to keep opponents guessing, rather than being a de facto shooter. This season Caufield has shown that he can be a dynamic puck carrier on his line and has exploited moving the defensive box by skating into different zones with the puck.

An opponent (or two) covering Laine would open up the ice to allow Caufield more room to shoot on net. Focusing on Caufield because of a high success rate when he shoots would open up shooting lanes for Laine to exploit.

It might not be the best option, but I would also consider a top-6 of:

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Demidov
Caufield - Dach - Laine

Slafkovsky would add size to get pucks in the corners and playmaking to exploit two shooters like Demidov and Suzuki. Bot Demidov and Suzuki would have each other as pass options and Slafkovsky could well surprise opponents with his one-timer to keep everyone honest.

IMO, both Suzuki and Slafkocvsky are smart enough to Keep up with Demidov's creativity.

Dach, more of a playmaker than a shooter, would have two sniper options and Caufield could become the hybrid sniper/passer to keep opponents honest.
 
Demidov will be so much fun to watch. Especially as a continuation of the Hutson mesmerization of opponents.

Right now, Hab players are a little bewildered themselves when Hutson puts his skills on display. I think that Demidov would be more of a keep that shit going once he got the puck from Hutson.

Demidov and Hutson are both reasons why we need skilled players in the top-6, at least, able to read developing plays in order to complete them. Otherwise, you end up with two special layers playing as one-man shows by necessity from others being unable to capitalize on their creativity and talent.

Laine fits into this category as a 'finisher'. It might not be the sexiest, but his ability to rifle that puck in à la Ovechkin is nothing to smirk at.

I don't know what the chemistry will be between Demidov and other top-6 options on the Habs, but players able to see the ice and creative enough to exploit what they see developing are clearly Suzuki, Caufield and Slafkovsky. The younger Mouseketeer doesn't get enough credit for his on ice vision that makes him want to be a playmaker more than a shooter (despite the good one-timer).

I would even be comfortable playing both Caufield and Laine on the same line since Caufield would benefit from Laine as a pass option to keep opponents guessing, rather than being a de facto shooter. This season Caufield has shown that he can be a dynamic puck carrier on his line and has exploited moving the defensive box by skating into different zones with the puck.

An opponent (or two) covering Laine would open up the ice to allow Caufield more room to shoot on net. Focusing on Caufield because of a high success rate when he shoots would open up shooting lanes for Laine to exploit.

It might not be the best option, but I would also consider a top-6 of:

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Demidov
Caufield - Dach - Laine

Slafkovsky would add size to get pucks in the corners and playmaking to exploit two shooters like Demidov and Suzuki. Bot Demidov and Suzuki would have each other as pass options and Slafkovsky could well surprise opponents with his one-timer to keep everyone honest.

IMO, both Suzuki and Slafkocvsky are smart enough to Keep up with Demidov's creativity.

Dach, more of a playmaker than a shooter, would have two sniper options and Caufield could become the hybrid sniper/passer to keep opponents honest.
I like your top 6:
Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Demidov
Caufield - Dach - Laine

Will be interesting to see where the chemistry is. Would be good to try a lot of options. I've also always been curious how Laine would do with Suzuki:

Laine - Suzuki - Demidov
Caufield - Dach - Slaf

Caufield - Suzuki - Laine
Slaf - Dach - Demidov

Laine - Suzuki - Slaf
Caufield - Dach - Demidov
 
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I prefer to keep Caufield and Laine separate to spread out the scoring threats. Pair Caufield and Slaf and Laine and Demidov.

Pick whatever center you want for either pair. Suzuki or Dach.

That being said, that's my preference, I'd try anything to find the right chemistry.
 
I’d rather the team upgrades at C to support Demi then break up one of the better 5v5 lines in the league. Remember the goal isn’t to get Demi as many points as possible, it is to build great lines and that process usually doesn’t include breaking up one that is already there.

And Demidov is as good as he looks, he should be able to do just fine with Dach and Laine, or wherever they put him.
 
I’d rather the team upgrades at C to support Demi then break up one of the better 5v5 lines in the league. Remember the goal isn’t to get Demi as many points as possible, it is to build great lines and that process usually doesn’t include breaking up one that is already there.

And Demidov is as good as he looks, he should be able to do just fine with Dach and Laine, or wherever they put him.

that is a terrible approach, the best prospect we have drafted in 20 years and the plan should be to stick him with a young center that we still don't know if he will be our long term center because he should be able to do just fine. How about putting your best prospect in the best chance to have success?
 
I prefer to keep Caufield and Laine separate to spread out the scoring threats. Pair Caufield and Slaf and Laine and Demidov.

Pick whatever center you want for either pair. Suzuki or Dach.

That being said, that's my preference, I'd try anything to find the right chemistry.
I think you HAVE spread out the scoring threats by having Demidov on a different line than Caufield and Laine.

Out of the following 6 players - Suzuki, Laine, Caufield, Demidov, Dach, Slafkovsky - you have four bonafide scores in Susuki, Laine, Caufield and Demidov, plus two potential 20-goal scorers who can pass the puck in Slafkovsky and Dach.

By keeping two of the bonafide scorers on each line in your top-6, you are spreading the offensive wealth and splitting Dach and Slafkovsky adds a playmaker that can still score on each line.

With Demidov, a natural lefty playing RW - just like Laine - they should not play them on the same line.

It can be any of:

Caufield - Suzuki - Demidov
Slafkovsky - Dach - Laine

-OR-

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Demidov
Caufield - Dach - Laine

-OR-

Caufield - Suzuki - Laine
Slafkovsky - Dach - Demidov

-OR-

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Laine
Caufield - Dach - Demidov
 
Everything the Habs do should be centered around making Ivan Demidov the best he can be, end of story. The Habs haven't had anyone close to his skill level as a 19 year old going back over 30 years, you can not mess around here. Just do what's best as you have a real shot at a 100+ pt forward.

I kept saying Hutson if you put him in the NHL on day 1, it should be on PP1 and he's clearly showed that should have been the case, Demidov will show that he must be on the 1st line and 1st PP unit because he's that good.
 
Everything the Habs do should be centered around making Ivan Demidov the best he can be, end of story. The Habs haven't had anyone close to his skill level as a 19 year old going back over 30 years, you can not mess around here. Just do what's best as you have a real shot at a 100+ pt forward.

I kept saying Hutson if you put him in the NHL on day 1, it should be on PP1 and he's clearly showed that should have been the case, Demidov will show that he must be on the 1st line and 1st PP unit because he's that good.
October.................where are you!!!!!!!
 
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Everything the Habs do should be centered around making Ivan Demidov the best he can be, end of story. The Habs haven't had anyone close to his skill level as a 19 year old going back over 30 years, you can not mess around here. Just do what's best as you have a real shot at a 100+ pt forward.

I kept saying Hutson if you put him in the NHL on day 1, it should be on PP1 and he's clearly showed that should have been the case, Demidov will show that he must be on the 1st line and 1st PP unit because he's that good.
If Demidov doesn’t start on PP 1 I will be forced to take matters into my own hands
 
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I changed my mind during Demidov's games at HFHabs.

Don't open GDT. We didn't open a GDT. And Demidov had his hatty.

I'mma bring you Demidov's stats. With the GDT. And without GDT. Stay tuned!
 
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Yeah I'm pretty sure Demidov isn't gonna waltz in and take a 1st line spot and PP1, and that's a good thing. There is team culture and the room to take into account as well, not everything can revolve around Demidov as dope as he'll be. Besides he's gonna get those spots before Christmas anyways.
 
Yeah I'm pretty sure Demidov isn't gonna waltz in and take a 1st line spot and PP1, and that's a good thing. There is team culture and the room to take into account as well, not everything can revolve around Demidov as dope as he'll be. Besides he's gonna get those spots before Christmas anyways.
I expect Demidov to start on a second line, but, when you consider that starting on a second line comes with Dach at C and Laine the other wing, I don't think Demidov will have anything to complain about.

Watch him start on a PP2 wave that splits PP time evenly with the PP1 wave and have more PP points than anyone on the PP1 wave.

PP1:

Hutson

Suzuki, Caufield, Laine, Slafkovsky

PP2:

Matheson

Demidov, Dach, Heineman, Newhook (I'd have Roy instead)
 
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I think you HAVE spread out the scoring threats by having Demidov on a different line than Caufield and Laine.

Out of the following 6 players - Suzuki, Laine, Caufield, Demidov, Dach, Slafkovsky - you have four bonafide scores in Susuki, Laine, Caufield and Demidov, plus two potential 20-goal scorers who can pass the puck in Slafkovsky and Dach.

By keeping two of the bonafide scorers on each line in your top-6, you are spreading the offensive wealth and splitting Dach and Slafkovsky adds a playmaker that can still score on each line.

With Demidov, a natural lefty playing RW - just like Laine - they should not play them on the same line.

It can be any of:

Caufield - Suzuki - Demidov
Slafkovsky - Dach - Laine

-OR-

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Demidov
Caufield - Dach - Laine

-OR-

Caufield - Suzuki - Laine
Slafkovsky - Dach - Demidov

-OR-

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Laine
Caufield - Dach - Demidov
He has scoring ability no doubt. As does Suzuki. However, I see Demidov as an insane playmaker for a finisher like Laine. He will draw coverage and dish to Laine if they cheat on him.

Caufield and Suzuki already work well together, including with Slaf.

Slaf and Dach for me, are our puck protection and retrieval guys. They can both dish as well.

I am starting with

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Laine - Dach - Demidov
Heinemen - Newhook - Beck
Anderson - Evans - Gally
 
that is a terrible approach, the best prospect we have drafted in 20 years and the plan should be to stick him with a young center that we still don't know if he will be our long term center because he should be able to do just fine. How about putting your best prospect in the best chance to have success?
You must have missed the part where I said we should upgrade at C to support him?

He needs to play with good players, he doesn’t need to play with Suzuki. I guess I have more faith in him then you do.
 
Yeah I'm pretty sure Demidov isn't gonna waltz in and take a 1st line spot and PP1, and that's a good thing. There is team culture and the room to take into account as well, not everything can revolve around Demidov as dope as he'll be. Besides he's gonna get those spots before Christmas anyways.
Exactly, the “hockey dad” approach to prospects around here is misguided. Dude is an unreal talent, playing him with two very good players, in softer minutes, is the proper approach. WTF would you break up one of the better lines in the league? So it can be slightly better?
 
You must have missed the part where I said we should upgrade at C to support him?

He needs to play with good players, he doesn’t need to play with Suzuki. I guess I have more faith in him then you do.

have the Habs said he won't be tried at center? Hutson should have been on PP1 from day 1, why? because he's the most skilled. Demidov should be on the top line and PP1, why because he's the most skilled.
 

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